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Quote from: Pamadar on December 09, 2020, 01:57:54 PM

After winning huge amount the house also will keep on eye with your account, doing random check from time to time looking
for any suspicious movements, they have this authority since they are also protecting their business in any for of abused.

OP is pointing to sports betting.

If OP will win a huge amount, I don't see how it will be tagged as a suspicious one since the result is fair. If OP will win consecutive winnings, he doesn't control it as results can't be cheated. There's also a track of OP's progress.

OP just needs to follow the site terms and everything will be alright (unless the site itself created a term against the OP).

I think winning in casinos and bagging some amount and keeping it in your account will not result in OP account to be banned, there is no written in tos about that, maybe unusual activity like changing the IP that you are using accessing your account, or being in non stop transactions maybe that could be a reason , but now I don't see any reason for them to banned OP's account. better to withdraw some of it, for your assurance as well.

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Quote from: chaser15 on December 07, 2020, 02:36:58 PM

Unfortunately, terms are subject to change much especially about the subject of the continuous huge amount of winnings. Users will just be surprised that a certain term will be imposed on them.

The good thing is that sites only stop you from making bigger bets but aren't blocking the withdrawals which I think is fair enough. I mean the sportsbook has the right to decide which player they want to allow and which ones they want to restrict. There are many ways by which players can cheat so sportsbook have to be very careful and crypto sportsbook have instant withdrawals mostly that also creates a big problem in case a player is cheating he can empty the hot wallet.

Quote from: chaser15 on December 07, 2020, 02:36:58 PM

For that, OP just needs to choose a reputable sports betting site to ensure that in case of irregularities, OP can take the case in public. These reputable sites will surely address OP's question instead of unpopular ones that don't care about their user's problem.

Actually I play at stake and I have seen people complain about small limits on e-sports betting so actually even the best sportsbooks out there limit users for specific reasons.

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Quote from: Pamadar on December 09, 2020, 01:57:54 PM

After winning huge amount the house also will keep on eye with your account, doing random check from time to time looking
for any suspicious movements, they have this authority since they are also protecting their business in any for of abused.

OP is pointing to sports betting.

If OP will win a huge amount, I don't see how it will be tagged as a suspicious one since the result is fair. If OP will win consecutive winnings, he doesn't control it as results can't be cheated. There's also a track of OP's progress.

OP just needs to follow the site terms and everything will be alright (unless the site itself created a term against the OP).

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After going through OP and a couple of replies, I find it rather impossible and relatively funny for it to be that, bookmarkers can limit participation on an active account based on a frequent win from that particular account. In essence, all they want us to do is loose, loose and loose some more! It's so unfair should this supposed observation be true and come to think of it, all the adverts of betting platforms are always focused on winning, amazing odds and options do, restricting an account should the account be winning more frequent is absurd!

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Quote from: kkaroul4 on December 08, 2020, 08:19:12 AM

I don't think they will not suspend or restrict your account but maybe they would ask you personal details and undergo through KYC if you win big amounts in order to comply with their AML policy which is I think is normal if their website is regulated and licensed.

It's been a practice as they needed to comply with regulations.

After winning huge amount the house also will keep on eye with your account, doing random check from time to time looking
for any suspicious movements, they have this authority since they are also protecting their business in any for of abused.

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There is so much confusion around this topic so I will like to share some information which I have gathered about this.

Gambling house will never limit your betting as long as you are overall in loss, if you win 10 BTC today but slowly lose out in the long term they will have no problems. But if somehow you are winning in long term and considering sports betting has such a massive house edge then bookies start limiting your bet size to avoid unfair advantages like court siding and other practices.

Even bet365 and other sites ban and limit accounts to small bet size because of things like courtsiding.

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Quote from: krach on December 08, 2020, 08:36:13 AM

There are plenty of places that wont, like decentral betting apps, fairlay, asianodds ect

Actually at one time I used to win a lot on sportsbet.io and I must credit them that they never limited my account to any limits. I had times when I used to win big amounts and then there were days when I would lose but overall I was making good profits and they never limited my account.

I also thin that sportsbook limit betting amounts when they believe you are into some kind of wrongdoing because I mean every gamble can win and lose and if they were going to limit users for winning almost every gambler would have his limits cut off by now. Maybe there are gamblers who perform arbitrage and other tricks and then the sportsbook are forced to limit them. I never got limited anywhere despite making good amount of bets and winning at times.

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Quote from: deathes on December 06, 2020, 06:43:41 AM

This is something I don't get. If these bookmakers are going to suspend or restrict my account in the case of profiting too much, why should I even bother with sports betting in the first place? What's the point? Having fun while losing money?

Having a consistent winnings are not good for bookmakers for an obvious reason, their profit would be lessen. However its not a reason as well to restrict or ban your account as long as you're not doing anything that against the rules.

Quote from: deathes on December 06, 2020, 06:43:41 AM

Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it.

Nowadays there are many reputable betting sites existing just do a research and you can find good sports betting sites that suits you.

Did you already experience getting restricted for profiting to much? Im curious to know because you're worried.

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Quote from: deathes on December 06, 2020, 06:43:41 AM

This is something I don't get. If these bookmakers are going to suspend or restrict my account in the case of profiting too much, why should I even bother with sports betting in the first place? What's the point? Having fun while losing money?

Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it. In fact, since the pool and liqudity get bigger they should even support it. So, is it really the same case with bitcoin exchange sites too so that I should give up betting if I plan on winning in the end?

I don't think that they will do that because sports betting can't be cheated (don't know with casino) and if you win or profit in the long term and you are going to withdraw large sum of money from them, KYC documents are probably the thing they will ask from you. As long as you follow the terms in the TOS, i think you have no problem with them.

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There is a huge percentage of chance that ypu will be investigated about. Basically KYC, mostly just to doublecheck and ensure you are not doing monkey business. If they are reputable and you are found not guilty of the accusation, they won't ban you. Simple as that. Most bookmakers are paid thru commisions so they don't hate to see you winning with a burning passion.

Quote from: krach on December 08, 2020, 08:36:13 AM

A lot of places will just kick you out.

To understand think about how they make money.

Most make money by doing risk management and not hedging all bets. This means that if you are annoying and profitable, or profitable in markets they have trouble hedging then they might just kick you.

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There are plenty of places that wont, like decentral betting apps, fairlay, asianodds ect

This is also possible, again weigh your decisions OP. If you feel like you are not gonna be welcome in that online bettingbsite for too long, then it's best you stay away while you dtill haven't invested time, money and power.

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A lot of places will just kick you out.

To understand think about how they make money.

Most make money by doing risk management and not hedging all bets. This means that if you are annoying and profitable, or profitable in markets they have trouble hedging then they might just kick you.

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There are plenty of places that wont, like decentral betting apps, fairlay, asianodds ect

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Quote from: Taskford on December 08, 2020, 08:06:34 AM

Quote from: deathes on December 06, 2020, 06:43:41 AM

This is something I don't get. If these bookmakers are going to suspend or restrict my account in the case of profiting too much, why should I even bother with sports betting in the first place? What's the point? Having fun while losing money?

Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it. In fact, since the pool and liqudity get bigger they should even support it. So, is it really the same case with bitcoin exchange sites too so that I should give up betting if I plan on winning in the end?

Why would they do that in the first place? if they will suspend the users account for that reason only then there's something wrong with them and thy cannot be trusted, but if you do something illegal which violate their TOS for sure you will be investigated and if they find something illegal on your account then its a ground for them to suspend your account so make sure to play in accordance to their TOS and play with honesty since for that you can protect your account.

They knew it is impossible to always winning against the bookies in the long run , that is why they will accuse you for cheating pr something , cause yes it is impossiblo to keep winning all the time , doesnt makes sense and i believe this should be a very rare case like 1 in millions or so.
Dont forget that every casino , every bookmakers have their own risk management who taking care of this kind situation and the decision might be various.
I heard a lot of cases where the user account get limited for certain period due suspicious winning, it is happened so yes it depends.

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I don't think they will not suspend or restrict your account but maybe they would ask you personal details and undergo through KYC if you win big amounts in order to comply with their AML policy which is I think is normal if their website is regulated and licensed.

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Quote from: deathes on December 06, 2020, 06:43:41 AM

This is something I don't get. If these bookmakers are going to suspend or restrict my account in the case of profiting too much, why should I even bother with sports betting in the first place? What's the point? Having fun while losing money?

Which leads me to the question, are there any reputable bitcoin sports betting exchange sites? And will they suspend/restrict my account too if I profit too much although they won't be affected by my winnings so logically they shouldn't care about it. In fact, since the pool and liqudity get bigger they should even support it. So, is it really the same case with bitcoin exchange sites too so that I should give up betting if I plan on winning in the end?

Why would they do that in the first place? if they will suspend the users account for that reason only then there's something wrong with them and thy cannot be trusted, but if you do something illegal which violate their TOS for sure you will be investigated and if they find something illegal on your account then its a ground for them to suspend your account so make sure to play in accordance to their TOS and play with honesty since for that you can protect your account.

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Quote from: imstillthebest on December 07, 2020, 04:13:51 AM

it wont take long if you can win easily . not withdrawing small amounts verry often can also make you save lots of fees , thats what i did i just withdrew one time because the gambling site where i play demands a big withdrawal fee but i dont recomend it for people that have a gambling issue because they can loose what they can save

and most importantly if your a gambler that are not willing to do a kyc because money can get trap inside a gambling site .

But it will not be easy to win as we know that gambling is not designed to give easy money to the gamblers. If you want to save lots of fees, you can convert your win in bitcoin into an altcoin so that you can pay small fees. If you withdrew one time in a large amount, that can make the casino suspicious and check your account. If you don't mind getting that, you can still do but be careful. I don't recommend to withdraw in a large amount to avoid the alarm sounding.

We need to select the gambling site that doesn't require KYC to get in a trap when we withdraw.

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Quote from: Naida_BR on December 08, 2020, 03:46:17 AM

Everything depends on the amount of profits you are going to be making, how much reputable is the casino you are gambling at and the volume that takes part in this casino.
You have to find the best combination of those three in order to eliminate the chances of getting restricted or banned.
Indeed, casinos are posing restrictions in people that are winning too much - I have experienced that with bet365 when they posed me a restriction of a certain amount that I can bet during a day because I had a consecutive winning streak of a lot of money.

You agree in some policies when you sign up - this means that you are playing with their rules...

its the reputation of the casino for me that should come first before the volume and the decision of how much your going to win because these two are going to be useless if you pick a scam and bad casino because your still going to be restricted or else not get paid .

as far as i know bet365 is a big casino but why they still have a restriction , how much money you bet and win before ? im just curious because you dont look like a rich gambler to me . i cant believe that there are really gambling site that restricts players from winning lol .

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Everything depends on the amount of profits you are going to be making, how much reputable is the casino you are gambling at and the volume that takes part in this casino.
You have to find the best combination of those three in order to eliminate the chances of getting restricted or banned.
Indeed, casinos are posing restrictions in people that are winning too much - I have experienced that with bet365 when they posed me a restriction of a certain amount that I can bet during a day because I had a consecutive winning streak of a lot of money.

You agree in some policies when you sign up - this means that you are playing with their rules...

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Quote from: Yudhisthir on December 07, 2020, 06:25:39 AM

None of the legit bookie, gambling site would restrict your account for winning.

This is true for players that aren't playing big or for players that are usually losing but the case is different for deathes and other players like him. Bookies don't want to lose and they can restrict anyone who can potentially deplete their bankroll. They will use any trick up their sleeve to make that player leave.

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Quote from: coupable on December 07, 2020, 04:54:25 PM

Quote from: ralle14 on December 06, 2020, 08:22:58 PM

Quote from: coupable on December 06, 2020, 04:28:12 PM

This makes sense to me. It lets me think about the idea that if one account makes 2-3 big withdrawals is in risk of his account being suspended/checked. Do you really think that i have to change the platform after i make some big withdrawals avoiding all breacking-head, or maybe just using the same platform after changing all stuff (device,account,ip,addresses) ?

No, making a big withdrawal won't risk your account from getting suspended unless you're new to that site and those withdrawals would quickly put you at a big profit. Also it depends on how big are these withdrawals.

What tyKiwanuka had said in the quote i responsed is very interesting and may have a different opinion from what you tell. Bookmakers generally don't like those who make big profits so it's normal to follow the regular winners, from this point then it's better to make some changes if you make some repetive big wins (can't really determine how much but there should be an average among wins) .

Wonder what changes you are referring to. Is it like changing of device, account, ip, etc as your former post suggested?
Well, I think those who consistently win significant amounts would need to be careful playing too long on account that has attracted lot of attention from admin/owner. I'd prefer to use another platform for awhile before using the one I have won alot of bets on again.

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Quote from: swogerino on December 08, 2020, 02:28:16 AM

I think that reputable crypto casinos are winning enough money in general that they don’t really care if a few individuals are winning in the long run.In fact up until now I haven’t heard amy stories regarding this.In Fiat casinos though there are many claims that bet365 restricts your account once you win 3-4k Euros or Dollars.

I think this in not exactly restricting the account, they just investigate and see if there is any suspicious actions have been done.

Winning a lot in casinos will most likely get the attention of the owners. It is actually normal if they undergo an investigation to your account, as long as you do not violate their rules or anything that can cause your account to disable, there is nothing to worry about.

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