Will BTC and the Alts be easier to manipulate now - page 6.

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Quote from: mr.mister on November 27, 2018, 09:43:24 PM

That so much capital left the market? Market cap was $220 billion 3 weeks ago. Today, we are barely holding on to $125 billion market cap. How much lower can btc go in price? 3k, 2k, 1k?

I don't feel like it's dead, but I feel like it is a lot more vulnerable than it was prior to a month ago, and I am not certain about a recovery any time soon.

manipulation has strong causes and factors. only then can it happen, as in the fake satosi case about the destruction of bitcoin recently. it is one of the manipulations that occur from the role of FUD which has been designed to impose the price of bitcoin. and this can be the entrance to the pope to buy bitcoin at a cheap price.

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For a single person it is very tough to manipulate the whole market because it is not a small market to which can be manipulate by any one for this a strong group if ready they have a major hold in the crypto they can change the market position and it is natural that demand and supply forces can bring changes in the actual market cap. Mostly big businesses need to bring the currency to a level which they afford so they make a plane for that and some time they spread rumors in the market.

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I think this time manipulating bitcoin or altcoin is not impossible because everything is possible in using high technology. Specially in terms of making money manipulating is always there so even in bitcoin or altcoin this is more possible or prone. But I think if you were still safe if you are making transaction private because all we know that privacy is the only thing that we only do for our safety,dont let other people know your personal password account or even your private keys. I believe that every online transactions can manipulate because of technology so we need to be careful.

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Of course, with the lower market cap price manipulation is much easier. It is even much easier when users are in panic because they do not think reasonably and make decisions under the influence of fear. However, i think that this is the end of the bear market and positive moods are slowly coming back to the market.

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Quote from: pooya87 on November 27, 2018, 10:21:50 PM

what does the total market cap have anything to do with bitcoin price that you are asking your question like this?!! there are trillions of tokens in circulation and when the price of shitcoins fall this total market cap ($200 billion) gets dumped hard with them. just as when shitcoins are pumping it shoots up! it is fake anyways.

as for manipulation, the more you manipulate and the more you push the price down the harder it gets since the resistance would become bigger and bigger. to a point where the buying power not only negates the manipulators but also pushes it back up again.

It does IMO, the sell off of BTC bring down most of the Altcoins along with it, BTC was around $6200 some weeks ago and went as low as $3500, that is more than 43% loss in value and we all know that BTC dominance in the space is still very strong and the whole marketcap come down with it. There is no way we won't tie this with BTC because most of these so called Shitcoins derive their value from BTC pair on most exchanges

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I am more scared if the rich people will just be the one to handle it.
Better for them to sell it now and then go away.
If the whales did this then good. If it is a group of small investors then it might be just okay.

I still prefer differenr individual holding it. Maybe 2 bitcoim per person will give a lot of of difference instead of just 10 with thousands of btc in their hands.

Yes it could be manipulated if you have the right amount of money.

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I don't think bitcoin and altcoins are easy to manipulate. They will need to have huge amount of money before they can manipulate the prices of cryptocurrency.

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There are so many speculations on the crypto market in recent times and the issue of manipulations always comes to play whenever we think of making a projection on how bitcoin would look like in the future. I believe the price of bitcoin can still be manipulated further by those who have a large amount of bitcoin.

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Quote from: mr.mister on November 27, 2018, 09:43:24 PM

That so much capital left the market? Market cap was $220 billion 3 weeks ago. Today, we are barely holding on to $125 billion market cap.

Did you see what happened in December? Many governments began to tell their citizens that they should not buy bitcoin because it was dangerous, then these same governments started to impose laws and rules so that the banks of their countries limited people to not be able to buy bitcoins, KYC and Proof of income came to limit people, result: the demand for cryptos has dropped and prices have dropped a lot. but that's not all. Many people had high expectations in ICOs, but with the wave of scammers, many people left the crypto world

Quote from: mr.mister on November 27, 2018, 09:43:24 PM

How much lower can btc go in price? 3k, 2k, 1k?

No one knows this, but if there is not much demand, it is possible that the price would fall to $3500

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Obviously. The cryptocurrency market has been manipulated on many different occasions in the past and I don't think this will change anytime soon. I have observed this on multiple occasions myself and there is nothing surprising about any of this op.

I think the recent price crash was a manipulation technique by the Bitcoin cash team which resulted in a negative downtrend. This year is exactly the polar opposite of last year when it comes to the cryptocurrency market trends.

Manipulation will always be a concern due to the extremely volatile nature of this market which is something you simply need to get used to.

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Quote from: nicster551 on November 28, 2018, 01:59:05 AM

It was even easy to manipulate at its high capital. What more they could do with this kind of small capital now?

They can put in their capital to pump it up. Potentially those whales who are willing to interrupt the movement and make the market move in the direction they want to would take the capital out one day causing a market crash and then one fine day in the midst of the dump they would buy in making the market move up again. They would either be doing this to fool other traders into buying in or buying out. Its not easy to predict nor useful at all.

Quote from: coinwizard_ on November 28, 2018, 02:13:32 AM

Market manipulators who push the price down are now doing themselves any favours. A recovery is becoming increasingly difficult and at this rate could take years before people rejoin the crypto world

Dont need more people to join now. Let them be,the same people will be fomoed once higher prices are reached and they will come back in.

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With the current market cap of cryptocurrency, I can say that it is easy to manipulate and it always is. One news coming from a popular website can make a huge effect with the price of crypto.

Its easier for the whales to manipulate the price of crypto now that the whole market cap is low. Adoption will be the only solution to at least lessen manipulation.

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Quote from: mr.mister on November 27, 2018, 09:43:24 PM

That so much capital left the market? Market cap was $220 billion 3 weeks ago. Today, we are barely holding on to $125 billion market cap. How much lower can btc go in price? 3k, 2k, 1k?

It has to wipe out the alts and make the ICO's think twice before launching because there isn't easy money in crypto like last year.

Bitcoin isn't the coin to be worried about. It's the 1000's of alts that are going to 0 while bitcoins value increases next year.

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Market manipulators who push the price down are now doing themselves any favours. A recovery is becoming increasingly difficult and at this rate could take years before people rejoin the crypto world

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Quote from: waterman on November 27, 2018, 10:01:29 PM

If you are a billionaire and you want to control and manipulate the market in the future, now it is a good time to buy, I guess that is what happened in the last weeks and one of the biggest manipulators is the Satoshi himself

Its more cheaper now and for sure many new whales are already in the market. Its easy for them now to manipulate the market because they own more bitcoin/altoins now. Strong regulation in cryptomarket is what we need so those who are trying to ruin the reputation of cryptocurrency will be caught by the authorities.

The rise of this market is still not sure, no one can say when it will start to recover or it will still longer on this dump level but hopefully the price wont go lower than $3k again. I wish for a real investors to come it in this market to stop the bleeding, there's still time before the end of 2018.

Quote from: steampunkz on November 28, 2018, 01:29:37 AM

For me I think its manipulated by greedy investors and traders, Others are using bots to pump and dump any altcoins they want. It should be also easy if you have big funds in BTC, But anyways BTC still has a high and reasonable price right now?

Bitcoin is still high if you look at the price in the past, but this must be stop now before we hit the $2k level again.

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In fact, compared to the past few years, bitcoin is now more difficult to manipulate, because the price of bitcoin was only a few dozen dollars a few years ago, and now the price of bitcoin has reached or even tens of thousands of dollars, so the bitcoin is harder manipulated. The amount of money needed will be more and more, but for altcoins, it is still very easy to manipulate the price of them.

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Quote from: mr.mister on November 27, 2018, 09:43:24 PM

That so much capital left the market? Market cap was $220 billion 3 weeks ago. Today, we are barely holding on to $125 billion market cap. How much lower can btc go in price? 3k, 2k, 1k?

I don't feel like it's dead, but I feel like it is a lot more vulnerable than it was prior to a month ago, and I am not certain about a recovery any time soon.

It was even easy to manipulate at its high capital. What more they could do with this kind of small capital now?

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Indeed manipulation makes them happy, and speculators are only limited to the game, but this will not last long, if price manipulation goes down they will also suffer losses, we wait for a sense of saturation so realize that market manipulation is easy but to generate it seems difficult.

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Quote from: mr.mister on November 27, 2018, 09:43:24 PM

That so much capital left the market? Market cap was $220 billion 3 weeks ago. Today, we are barely holding on to $125 billion market cap. How much lower can btc go in price? 3k, 2k, 1k?

I don't feel like it's dead, but I feel like it is a lot more vulnerable than it was prior to a month ago, and I am not certain about a recovery any time soon.

In fact, the lower the price, the lower the manipulation. Like the same profit. As profit falls, interest decreases. So the market needs a new excitement right now. Otherwise, it may try to go down further after a while.

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Quote from: btc-room101 on November 27, 2018, 11:09:26 PM

On a positive note, as the price of BTC collapses and all our speculators get burnt and become destitute, in time BTC will return to its humble beginning, where its just mined, and used for transferring wealth. Free money transfer for the little-people, unmolested by Governments ( Here is why we need real security & privacy in BTC ).

As much as that would be ideal for the ideological believers, I don't think this will happen anytime soon. The crash seems to have made people forget that Bitcoin has been in worse situations and has come out blazing. It's only a matter of time before it recovers, and even eclipses its ATH.

Quote from: steampunkz on November 28, 2018, 01:29:37 AM

For me I think its manipulated by greedy investors and traders, Others are using bots to pump and dump any altcoins they want. It should be also easy if you have big funds in BTC, But anyways BTC still has a high and reasonable price right now?

This fits the narrative of insitutional investors wanting to get in the market, but without any proof, it's just conjecture.

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