There is no way wagering system will be remive from casino because that is one of the fundamental and integral asoect and features of a casino, wagering help the casino to generate revenue in form of rake back but this time the casino is the one benefiting .
Since there is a high posubilty of many players losing out on everything trying to meet the wagering requirements, casino operators know about this which is why they always add it to the rules.
Topic: Will Cassino Continue With Wagering Requirements, If Abuse is Eliminated? - page 2. (Read 431 times)
January 08, 2023, 04:48:51 PM
January 08, 2023, 04:37:13 PM
Even if abuses or cheats made by players are eliminated, there's no way that a casino will stop doing wagering contests and other bonuses because that's already part of their long term plan.
They have a budget allocated for it and that will make more players to come.
It's encouraging as a player to see such wagering contests and bonuses if the requirements weren't that much or even it's just a free spin as a reward, many will participate and are happy with that.
They have a budget allocated for it and that will make more players to come.
It's encouraging as a player to see such wagering contests and bonuses if the requirements weren't that much or even it's just a free spin as a reward, many will participate and are happy with that.
They are just subjecting themselves to abuse if they will not put some conditions with their bonuses.
They are operating in cyberspace so expect that a lot of fraudsters or scammers will try their hands on if there will be no requirements at all.
The business can easily go down if they will not secure their business first.
Remember, scammers don't care if they will siphon all the money of a certain site, as long as they can pocket some money.
So don't think that casinos will remove their requirements or conditions with their bonuses.
January 08, 2023, 04:35:37 PM
the reality is, there will always be abusers. i don't think it can be eliminated especially if the casino is not requiring kyc to its customers. even some licensed casinos are still not requiring kyc for their small time bettors. so it is far from happening that abuse will be eliminated in my opinion.
the possibility is - they may lower their wagering requirements but they will keep certain conditions to avoid rampant abuse of their bonuses or rewards.
It’s far from possibility to lower their wagering requirements because it’s the best way they can take advantage and make high profits from their players, as much as abusers will hard to believe that they will never exist since a lot of players want to gain advantage of the casinos too especially if they have made more losses than gains. the possibility is - they may lower their wagering requirements but they will keep certain conditions to avoid rampant abuse of their bonuses or rewards.
January 08, 2023, 04:33:47 PM
1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
3: what conditional do you think could perfectly replace the wagering requirement in a casino that will serve players' purposes and also protect the revenue of the casino
1. There's no free money, we know on how bonuses do works and as a business then it would be normal that they would be setting out those kind of rules.
2. No wagering requirement would be impossible and it would really be prone to abuse because it could really be multi-accounted by those users which its not something new anymore.
3. There's no other way because if there is then casinos or businesses would be applying out the best things among the rest to be ahead of the competition
but we do see that we arent seeing something or in connection with these changes.
January 08, 2023, 04:30:25 PM
Even if abuses or cheats made by players are eliminated, there's no way that a casino will stop doing wagering contests and other bonuses because that's already part of their long term plan.
They have a budget allocated for it and that will make more players to come.
It's encouraging as a player to see such wagering contests and bonuses if the requirements weren't that much or even it's just a free spin as a reward, many will participate and are happy with that.
They have a budget allocated for it and that will make more players to come.
It's encouraging as a player to see such wagering contests and bonuses if the requirements weren't that much or even it's just a free spin as a reward, many will participate and are happy with that.
January 08, 2023, 04:17:10 PM
This led me to this question
1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
3: what conditional do you think could perfectly replace the wagering requirement in a casino that will serve players' purposes and also protect the revenue of the casino
1. There should be no wagering requirements if you will just deposit and gamble, but if you are aiming to get some bonuses then probably the site will require you to follow all the rules to get qualified and sometimes its not just about wagering.1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
3: what conditional do you think could perfectly replace the wagering requirement in a casino that will serve players' purposes and also protect the revenue of the casino
2. If the abuse was eliminated, the site can give more bonuses but it doesn’t mean they wont ask for a wagering requirement anymore, this will always depend on what king of promotions they will introduce to us.
3. It can just be a simple task like following their social media platform, and also playing at least one game though you should not expect a huge bonus if the task is so easy.
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January 08, 2023, 04:13:01 PM
This led me to this question
1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
Bonuses casinos offer to players or gamblers(like you said) is a way to attract new and old gamblers to keep gambling on that casino, so in other words, we can call it a marketing strategy.1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
My opinion on this matter is simple, and that is for the fact that it is a good way of winning new gamblers over, it a way of keeping even the old gamblers active on the casino, every business needs growth and for casinos, as a business, this is one of the ways they grow their userbase and business.
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2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
NO, this bonuses are offered as encourage gamblers to gamble even more in a bid to try to claim the bonus, if the wagering requirement is eliminated, then the purpose of the bonus is forfeited by the casino.Ever heard the saying that "To whom much is given, much is expected from the person"?
So exactly it is with bonuses offered by casinos and the wagering requirements that are attached to it as the only way through which those bonuses can be claimed or redeemed.
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3: what conditional do you think could perfectly replace the wagering requirement in a casino that will serve players' purposes and also protect the revenue of the casino
As long as protecting the revenue of the casino is still very important, then i personally see no perfect replacement anywhere for the wagering requirements.
January 08, 2023, 03:48:08 PM
1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
3: what conditional do you think could perfectly replace the wagering requirement in a casino that will serve players' purposes and also protect the revenue of the casino
1. Nothing, it's part of their marketing and they have to do something to keep their old and new customers and that's one way of doing it.2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
3: what conditional do you think could perfectly replace the wagering requirement in a casino that will serve players' purposes and also protect the revenue of the casino
2. I don't think so, these bonuses and promos have something to do with their marketing and not with security.
3. Many have been doing the giveaways and that's how they're giving back to their players and at the same time, they're also making profit from there.
January 08, 2023, 02:08:01 PM
Wagering is the key process with which the casinos make the revenue. If there is no wagering requirements, then what casinos pay as bonus and promo were just an unwanted spending for them. When people continue to wager, they can be on the winning and losing streak which brings revenue to the casino. Casinos continue with wager requirements amidst the abuse, however, things were organised abuse will continue to happen.
Ops should know that wagering is part of the ways casino rake back their promo revenue as there spend a lot of money on bonuses and even though Lately abuse have been handled and most casinos have security that can easily detect abuse. That is why casinos sometimes players' accounts are locked and casino demand for KYC before the withdrawal.
But the wagering requirement is a must in most casinos, even some gambling sites sometimes demand 2x wager on deposits not even a bonus.
January 08, 2023, 01:02:06 PM
This led me to this question
1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
if abuse is eliminated I still understand if they require wagering requirements on bonuses, but if the gambler deposited and didn't take any of their promoted bonus? No.1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
No, because if they don't they are literally just giving away money, which is extremely bad for business. unless they say that the money won on bonuses cannot be withdrawn.
January 08, 2023, 12:50:53 PM
In an ideal world where there are no exploiters of scripte and advantages over the house, not only are wagering requirements removed but essentially everything that is imposed to protect the gambling site's integrity. This includes KYC, Deposit requirement, and other bylaws they make to ensure they are not dealing with someone whose intent is to abuse weaknesses in the gambling site for their own benefit. Wagering requirements are there to ensure that a gambler has played a substantial amount of times before being allowed to withsraw. This is to fend off abusers who jump from one casino to another in hopes of profiteering from a game's particular weakness.
January 08, 2023, 12:21:04 PM
I think even if abuse is eliminated, wagering requirements would still be there. If there aren't any then people would just go on and continue creating new accounts to avail of these bonuses. Casinos place these bonuses behind wagering requirements because their goal is to make money. Without wagering requirements, they are literally just giving people a lot of chances to win against them and it's counterintuitive to what they want to happen. Also, abuse will never be eliminated. People will always try and make things convenient for themselves and benefit themselves.
Wagering requirement elimination doesn't mean a free hand to create multiple accounts, what I meant is a working mechanism that will eliminate the possibility of multiple accounts and also total avoidance of possible abuse of the system in whatever ways possible. means that, casinos will have nothing to fear about abuse and loss of bonus money and other promos and players are only entitled to their winning alone with being handed other rules, that is when a player can deposit and withdraw the balance but the bonus is not inclusive but winning from bonuses can be withdrawn without any restriction. Now I get you. I thought you mean the other way around. Even if the casino found a way to combat such abuses and whatnot, they still wouldn't want to remove the wagering requirements to activate the bonuses because this still gives the players a lot more chances to beat the house. And what if during those chances, the player wins big and leaves the casino without trying to play any further? That leaves the casino a total loss and they wouldn't want that. With wagering requirements, they can even squeeze in a lot more money from the gambler before they give out the bonus which cannot be withdrawn in itself. Casinos would always choose a win-win situation for them as they're in a money-making business after all.
January 08, 2023, 12:16:21 PM
One thing that has disturbed me a lot lately and that has awakened my thoughts lately is casino bonuses and how it works, if you can recall, most of the casinos offer various bonuses and other promotions because that is one of the fasted ways to attract new and old players to continue playing on the casino. But one of the major challenges that gamblers face with these bonuses and promos are the rules that are attached to them, e.g wagering requirements and other rules that need to be met before withdrawals are processed.
This led me to this question
1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
3: what conditional do you think could perfectly replace the wagering requirement in a casino that will serve players' purposes and also protect the revenue of the casino
This led me to this question
1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
3: what conditional do you think could perfectly replace the wagering requirement in a casino that will serve players' purposes and also protect the revenue of the casino
I think some casinos offer bonuses in such a way that they are based on the amount you have wagered last week or last month and based on that wager amount they give you a certain percentage of that amount which you can do anything you want but of course that percentage is much lower than the wager you have made usually in 7-15% of that amount that you receive as a rakeback or something like that.I think this is the best way and as such the user can do whatever he likes,if he wants to withdraw then he can withdraw that,the casino knows because they intentionally is offering this rakeback in order to minimize that person loses.
Any other casino asking for wagering requirements which are not real like wager x25 to x50 your bonus amount before withdrawing are not letting you withdrawing money because we all know that is impossible to achieve.For deposit bonuses I agree there should be these wagering requirements in place and they should not be allowed to be withdrawn without going through these requirements because they are given to the user to boost his chances of winning but they should be not for any other type of bonus,more precisely they don't make sense in weekly and monthly bonuses.
January 08, 2023, 12:09:50 PM
babuild the casino for money not giving free money and they are not a charity, that's why they always give a bonus for you to play and make a deposit also use the bonus then play then withdraw it, the casino can't remove the terms also abuse, because people will come to take money not to play in the casino 
January 08, 2023, 11:08:51 AM
One thing that has disturbed me a lot lately and that has awakened my thoughts lately is casino bonuses and how it works, if you can recall, most of the casinos offer various bonuses and other promotions because that is one of the fasted ways to attract new and old players to continue playing on the casino. But one of the major challenges that gamblers face with these bonuses and promos are the rules that are attached to them, e.g wagering requirements and other rules that need to be met before withdrawals are processed.
This led me to this question
1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
3: what conditional do you think could perfectly replace the wagering requirement in a casino that will serve players' purposes and also protect the revenue of the casino
This bonus issue has been said time with number, as the OP said, it is bonus is a bait to lure the gamblers to the websites, yes the rules or the policies always affect gamblers from one way or other. To answer your questions.This led me to this question
1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
3: what conditional do you think could perfectly replace the wagering requirement in a casino that will serve players' purposes and also protect the revenue of the casino
1. When a casino attached deposit to it's bonuses then many gamblers do not registered to the site because that becomes a condition to them, wagering requirement for casino bonus limit the number of gamblers to the forum. And if a casino really want to cause traffic in the site. It should give the bonus freely. As the name implies "bonus" which means free gift to a customer, so there shouldn't be any attachments to it when giving.
2. Yes customers also in some times abuse bonuses, but if the security is very good in the site then there is no need for wagering requirement.
3. Casinos should give free bonuses and let the plays to win the one or two games then ask them to deposit before withdrawing the bonus but can't withdraw the deposited amount unless he or she plays a game to win again.
January 08, 2023, 10:42:33 AM
One thing that has disturbed me a lot lately and that has awakened my thoughts lately is casino bonuses and how it works, if you can recall, most of the casinos offer various bonuses and other promotions because that is one of the fasted ways to attract new and old players to continue playing on the casino. But one of the major challenges that gamblers face with these bonuses and promos are the rules that are attached to them, e.g wagering requirements and other rules that need to be met before withdrawals are processed.
This led me to this question
1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
3: what conditional do you think could perfectly replace the wagering requirement in a casino that will serve players' purposes and also protect the revenue of the casino
This led me to this question
1: What is your opinion on casinos that offers wagering requirements on both deposit and bonuses?
2: what do you think, if all necessary security checks are up to 100% and Abuse is totally eliminated from casinos, do you think gambling sites will make a no wagering requirement on their bonuses?
3: what conditional do you think could perfectly replace the wagering requirement in a casino that will serve players' purposes and also protect the revenue of the casino
No because that’s the defense mechanism of casino not to only be protected from abusers but also from regular player to not easily claim the bonus. We all now that casino is not a charity and bonuses is just there way to attract there customers to play and potentially lose along the completion of its requirements. Also there’s no such way that abuser will be remove out of the picture.
1. Most of the casino has wagering requirements for deposit and bonuses so this is pretty normal nowadays to avoid abuser and laundering.
2.No as explained above
3. I believe hitting a certain profit amount is an alternative to wagering requirements.
January 08, 2023, 10:26:44 AM
1. This mean the casino want to increase the wagering requirement difficulty since you need to able meet the requirement on both deposit and bonuses.
2. Security check doesn't only used to fight against abusers and multiple accounts, but it's used to fight against people who want to get free money from the casino! Can you think if the casino remove the wagering requirement and they have 200% deposit bonus? the casino will rekt soon since the users can double their money without need to gamble! deposit $200 withdraw $400, deposit $400 withdraw $800 lol.
For number one, the OP is asking about our opinion and not if what suggestions we can give to the casino and the point of all of it is to cut the wagering requirement and not to increase it more. I think that will be crazy if the casino will increase its difficulty when the current wagering requirement is already hard.2. Security check doesn't only used to fight against abusers and multiple accounts, but it's used to fight against people who want to get free money from the casino! Can you think if the casino remove the wagering requirement and they have 200% deposit bonus? the casino will rekt soon since the users can double their money without need to gamble! deposit $200 withdraw $400, deposit $400 withdraw $800 lol.
On your number two, free money was actually the root cause on why there are abuse and multi accounts but other than the free money or the bonus, the wagering requirement do also helps to possibly prevent money laundering. They are now rampant so I think there is no way that wagering requirements will be removed.
January 08, 2023, 07:17:59 AM
I think even if abuse is eliminated, wagering requirements would still be there. If there aren't any then people would just go on and continue creating new accounts to avail of these bonuses. Casinos place these bonuses behind wagering requirements because their goal is to make money. Without wagering requirements, they are literally just giving people a lot of chances to win against them and it's counterintuitive to what they want to happen. Also, abuse will never be eliminated. People will always try and make things convenient for themselves and benefit themselves.
Wagering requirement elimination doesn't mean a free hand to create multiple accounts, what I meant is a working mechanism that will eliminate the possibility of multiple accounts and also total avoidance of possible abuse of the system in whatever ways possible. means that, casinos will have nothing to fear about abuse and loss of bonus money and other promos and players are only entitled to their winning alone with being handed other rules, that is when a player can deposit and withdraw the balance but the bonus is not inclusive but winning from bonuses can be withdrawn without any restriction. January 08, 2023, 06:36:34 AM
I think even if abuse is eliminated, wagering requirements would still be there. If there isn't any then people would just go on and continue creating new accounts to avail of these bonuses. Casinos place these bonuses behind wagering requirements because their goal is to make money. Without wagering requirements, they are literally just giving people a lot of chances to win against them and it's counterintuitive of what they want to happen. Also, abuse will never be eliminated. People will always try and make things convenient for themselves and benefit themselves.
January 08, 2023, 06:27:44 AM
For promos, the wagering requirement isn't just for abusers, but it serves as one of the main ingredients to make the promo happens. For example, let's say the marketing budget for each new member is $1 and the target is 1,000 new members = $1,000. Instead of giving each $1 which no one cares about, they can just create a promo with a $1,000 prize pool. Make it extremely improbable that only 1 out of 1,000 new members will be able to get the prize via a stupid amount of wagering requirements and you'll get a sexy promo within your marketing budget (in this case $1,000 no-deposit bonus, sexy!). The actual math will be different, but you should get the point.
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