WILL DONALD TRUMP PERFORMED BETTER THAN OBAMA

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 23, 2017, 09:11:14 PM

Quote from: darkseid1199 on February 23, 2017, 04:24:39 PM

Point of correction America does not belong to the Americans in the first place. They just massacred the native Indians for it. I truly support the ban of muslim immigrants these people think they can go anywhere and act anyhow, look at what is happening in Germany, Absolute chaos turns to Merkel's open door policy. I didnt see that happen for refugees in Africa,

What happened hundreds of years ago, can't be used to justify something wrong right now. What happened to the native Americans was plain wrong. But then you can't repeat it again by conducting a similar genocidal campaign against the current residents.

Bearded morons stuck in the 7th century just might....

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Quote from: darkseid1199 on February 23, 2017, 04:24:39 PM

Point of correction America does not belong to the Americans in the first place. They just massacred the native Indians for it. I truly support the ban of muslim immigrants these people think they can go anywhere and act anyhow, look at what is happening in Germany, Absolute chaos turns to Merkel's open door policy. I didnt see that happen for refugees in Africa,

What happened hundreds of years ago, can't be used to justify something wrong right now. What happened to the native Americans was plain wrong. But then you can't repeat it again by conducting a similar genocidal campaign against the current residents.

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Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

The newly elected President of the United States of America in the person of Donald Trump will perform much better than the previous president who is Barrack Obama. His position on the abolition of abortion rights is one of the manifestation that Trump is serious about the protection and valuing of life even in its early stages. His laws that stops muslim immigrants to enter the USA is just one way of ensuring that America will belong to America. If he did not stop the migration of muslims in his country and with the abortion rights available to all the immigrants will multiply very fast since they loved reproduction while the americans love birth control and abortion. If Trump did not become president in 30 years time the majority of people in America will no longer be Americans but muslims.

Point of correction America does not belong to the Americans in the first place. They just massacred the native Indians for it. I truly support the ban of muslim immigrants these people think they can go anywhere and act anyhow, look at what is happening in Germany, Absolute chaos turns to Merkel's open door policy. I didnt see that happen for refugees in Africa,

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Quote from: Casanova18 on February 23, 2017, 06:04:32 AM

And why not the Chinese? Don't forget that the Chinese are born more often than the Muslims. Just about Muslims often say because of the information events related to terrorism. It seems to me that the peaceful spread of Chinese are not less dangerous.

Are you out of your mind? The Chinese are having one of the lowest birth rates in the world. This is true not just in mainland China, but also in other ethnic Chinese dominated nations such as Singapore, Hong Kong, and Taiwan. The Muslim birth rate is many times that of the Chinese and they are immigrating in much larger numbers when compared to the ethnic Chinese.

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Quote from: Xester on February 23, 2017, 05:49:06 AM

Quote from: philggg on January 20, 2017, 10:57:09 AM

Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

The newly elected President of the United States of America in the person of Donald Trump will perform much better than the previous president who is Barrack Obama. His position on the abolition of abortion rights is one of the manifestation that Trump is serious about the protection and valuing of life even in its early stages. His laws that stops muslim immigrants to enter the USA is just one way of ensuring that America will belong to America. If he did not stop the migration of muslims in his country and with the abortion rights available to all the immigrants will multiply very fast since they loved reproduction while the americans love birth control and abortion. If Trump did not become president in 30 years time the majority of people in America will no longer be Americans but muslims.

And why not the Chinese? Don't forget that the Chinese are born more often than the Muslims. Just about Muslims often say because of the information events related to terrorism. It seems to me that the peaceful spread of Chinese are not less dangerous.

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Quote from: philggg on January 20, 2017, 10:57:09 AM

Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

The newly elected President of the United States of America in the person of Donald Trump will perform much better than the previous president who is Barrack Obama. His position on the abolition of abortion rights is one of the manifestation that Trump is serious about the protection and valuing of life even in its early stages. His laws that stops muslim immigrants to enter the USA is just one way of ensuring that America will belong to America. If he did not stop the migration of muslims in his country and with the abortion rights available to all the immigrants will multiply very fast since they loved reproduction while the americans love birth control and abortion. If Trump did not become president in 30 years time the majority of people in America will no longer be Americans but muslims.

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Quote from: philggg on January 20, 2017, 10:57:09 AM

Donald trump as been sworn in as the new president of the united state,there are lot of speculation before he came into office,his friendly disposition towards Russian and the expulsion of Russia diplomat by the Obama administration ,the economy and the in flock of immigrants. Do you think he will perform better than Obama

A month from his presidency, an it seems he really don't know how to be a president. Day by day, he's making himself a big joke and laughing stock of the world and it's disheartening for the americans because I think Trump doesn't represents them at all.

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Quote from: s0nix on February 22, 2017, 02:15:18 PM

My personal opinion: No one performed worse than Trump.
Maybe I'm wrong, but right now this Trump is horrible.

From your language, it is clear that you are not from the United States. BTW, how you can say that Trump is horrible, when he has just started his term? Even during his first month in office, he has acted on several of his campaign promises. His supporters are happy, and I don't understand what is your problem.

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Yeah, I like that approach...reasonable indeed.

We'll need to see what his actions are. The funny part (for me) is that he would have won anyway, without the harsh talk. The guy is a New Yorker, New Yorkers talk like this, but if he kept his message real but used different words you'd see far less of the protesting. Hillary never had a chance...her corrupt activities and failures were the actions that spoke louder than her softer words.

I should do a search on past Presidents to see if any were as "brash", or whatever, as Trump. Who else was known for it? Watch me find some FDR or Eisenhower come up. If I find anything interesting I'll share it.

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Quote from: HabBear on February 22, 2017, 12:34:49 PM

.....e.g,. Trump could gain more favor with me if his a actions cause greater good in the US, despite my disdain for his words....

This is exactly what I was going to respond to you with, concerning our recent differences vis a vis Trump's politically incorrect speech.

I think you might have a point. Suppose a businessman says any thing he want for years, it's okay for him to be not politically correct. Then he becomes President. Should he then be more circumspect in his speech?

I think so, to a degree. Now suppose the person is incapable of being more diplomatic, just personality flaws, whatever. But he accomplishes a lot, one thing after another. EG for example, he says things that some might consider offensive for blacks, for hispanics, whatever (you pick the groups). BUT THAT'S OFFSET BY material actions he took to improve their condition.

Well, what then? I'd then say, the rough speech was not relevant, and was far overshadowed by the actions.

That's likely a reasonable way to look at it.

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My personal opinion: No one performed worse than Trump.
Maybe I'm wrong, but right now this Trump is horrible.

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Trump is gonna be finished if he doesn't root out the moles in his Oval Office and the deep state which is conspiring against him. This former CIA analyst is leading the call on what Trump should do in the coming weeks in order to survive and succeed in MAGA.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=1&v=nfX5QhqbCpM
still can't embed here Roll Eyes

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Quote from: HabBear on February 22, 2017, 12:34:49 PM

.....e.g,. Trump could gain more favor with me if his a actions cause greater good in the US, despite my disdain for his words....

This is exactly what I was going to respond to you with, concerning our recent differences vis a vis Trump's politically incorrect speech.

I think you might have a point. Suppose a businessman says any thing he want for years, it's okay for him to be not politically correct. Then he becomes President. Should he then be more circumspect in his speech?

I think so, to a degree. Now suppose the person is incapable of being more diplomatic, just personality flaws, whatever. But he accomplishes a lot, one thing after another. EG for example, he says things that some might consider offensive for blacks, for hispanics, whatever (you pick the groups). BUT THAT'S OFFSET BY material actions he took to improve their condition.

Well, what then? I'd then say, the rough speech was not relevant, and was far overshadowed by the actions.

That's likely a reasonable way to look at it.

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Coming from the guy trying to convince me that Trump isn't a racist, now I see your angle.

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Quote from: squatz1 on February 21, 2017, 01:09:48 AM

Sad that some people think that award really means anything. You can't even say that someone deserved the PEACE PRIZE when they're authorizing the usage of drones of civilians in the middle east. Sorry, but that was easily an award picked on race.

No doubt about that. First, he became a senator thanks to his skin color. And then he became the president of the United States, once again due to his racial origin. And finally, he got the Nobel peace prize in the most undeserving manner.

The Nobel Peace Prize for Obama is an embarrassment, undeserved, and completely politically motivated. The Nobel committee (at best) were making the decision based on Obama's words, not is actions. And I'm a believer that you do have to watch both (e.g,. Trump could gain more favor with me if his a actions cause greater good in the US, despite my disdain for his words). Obama should have denied the prize. Any President who engages in war should be ineligible for the Peach prize.

More important is that Trump hasn't been in office long enough to provide a fair comparison to Obama - this questions is "mainstream media" unfair and biased!

To Sithara, if a white guy talked about hope and change and governing in a logical, fact based, opportunity-for-all manner as Obama did, I'd still vote for him.

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From my point of view, i think that Obama is far more better than trump. Obama turned many impossible things into possibility. But, Trump will not be able to perform as like Obama did for the country.

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Quote from: machinek20 on February 22, 2017, 07:38:04 AM

Not too sure, from the speech and words Trump won't do any goods for the country, but Trump is a succesful businessman, and US need someone that can increase their economics life, and Trump is really experienced in the business industry, maybe he can decrease the unemployment rate and increase the US economics, so only time will tell which one is better

Why do you think that Trump is a successful businessman? For example, I don't know. Have you seen anywhere a financial disclosure statement Trump? I think that if you saw the true situation of its financial activities you should change your opinion about it.

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He is really unique, I can not find a precedent. We have never had a President who was totally inexperienced in the public service, who has never held a position whether it is a government or a military one. That's a huge difference: Trump has no governmental experience. And taking out his presidential campaign, he has practically no political experience.

And these were largely the reasons why he won the election: we know that the people who voted for him said that they supported him because they wanted things to change in Washington. The lack of political and governmental experience was part of his message, saying: I am different, I am not one of Washington's politicians, I am a businessman who will mess with the system.

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Quote from: criptix on January 20, 2017, 08:32:41 PM

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Quote from: criptix on January 20, 2017, 06:34:36 PM

Trump makes deals with big money behind the scenes.
Corruption is preprogrammed.

Ah, the sad babbling of the losing liberal.

"We didn't get the corruption we wanted. The corruption we deserved. THEY got it!"

Calling for the execution of snowden ....

The injustice of that would be an issue we agree on.

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Not too sure, from the speech and words Trump won't do any goods for the country, but Trump is a succesful businessman, and US need someone that can increase their economics life, and Trump is really experienced in the business industry, maybe he can decrease the unemployment rate and increase the US economics, so only time will tell which one is better

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Why?

You make these bold claims but you don't explain any rationale, reasons, logic, or facts to support your claims.

So for you the increase in the federal debt indicates the Presidential performance? That's an interesting metric to choose. Given that debt is compounding. The policies and debt obligations in place before a Presidential administration starts grow as the budget is raised each year. So, in Obama's case the high cost of military and wars continues to grow under his watch, even though he may not have made the buying decisions to result in that debt.

There are other metrics that improved significantly with Obama:

Unemployment went down
The stock market went up
More private sector jobs were created under Obama's reign in 2010 ALONE, than in all of Bush Jr.'s reign
Bloomberg ranks US Prosperity under the last 6 Presidential administrations, They ranked Obama's #2, second best out of the last 30+ years

Do you read facts?

Here are some: http://whatthefuckhasobamadonesofar.com/; http://www.npr.org/2017/01/07/508600239/what-kind-of-jobs-president-has-obama-been-in-8-charts; https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2017-01-19/ranking-the-obama-economy; https://ourfuture.org/20141208/bush-vs-obama-on-the-economy-in-3-simple-charts

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Quote from: inspiring.rai on February 19, 2017, 08:16:32 AM

No,I don't think Donald Trump performed better than Barack Obama,infact Obama was the best president of USA while Trump is the worst president of USA.

Barack Obama was the worst president the United States ever had. That is why the economy is in deep shit despite he increasing the federal debt by $10 trillion. The federal debt never had been this high.

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Quote from: squatz1 on February 21, 2017, 01:09:48 AM

Sad that some people think that award really means anything. You can't even say that someone deserved the PEACE PRIZE when they're authorizing the usage of drones of civilians in the middle east. Sorry, but that was easily an award picked on race.

No doubt about that. First, he became a senator thanks to his skin color. And then he became the president of the United States, once again due to his racial origin. And finally, he got the Nobel peace prize in the most undeserving manner.

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