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legendary
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I don't think it will completely stop gambling rings, for this illegal operators, it's part of their life, it's business, it's where they go and make money. So regardless if their government will legalized gambling, they are going to continue with it. And there are gamblers that can't completely to to legal sport bookies, maybe it's very far from them, they are not that confident to go, they just have small amounts to bet and so they are somewhat "shy" about it etc, etc. So there are a lot of reasons why individuals are still going to patronized illegal gambling rings. And as far as I know, like here in our country, we have this kind of illegal lottery, and what this group to is to target individuals but going to the gamblers house, so it is very convenience for them to bet and if they won, their money is going to be delivered too without any hassle on their part. And then the middleman will have some sort of cuts from that winnings.
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Either the government legalizes gambling or not people will always abuse a setup system, forbthe fact that we have a large number of gamblers with everyone competing to make winning from a casino and some begin to device means to cheat abd byepass the process to the normal protocol, we have to consider that gambling is also decentralized in the sense that no single authority in charge of every gambling activities, so anyone can decided on coming in with something new to offer gamblers irrespective of the circumstances attached.
If gambling is already legalized, there is no need for an illegal gambling anymore however there are gambling operators who can still be considered as illegal if they don't get a permit or license to operate. They do this because maybe processing one will take time and can cost them more money.

Also, these people already have bad record and they will get busted for this if the government will do a background check about it. Gambling itself is not decentralized but if it was a crypto based gambling site then it is possible but gamblers must be careful with this as some can label their casino a decentralized or web3 and still ask for a KYC later on. I already saw some casinos like this.

some operators go to the route of not licensing their site for reasons like, they don't want to pay the fees or they don't want to disclose their documents to the government or they don't want to go thru the process. whatever it is, if it is physical casino, hard to operate without a license as the authorities will always come knocking at your door. easier when it comes to online casinos because they can easily disappear without a trace. this is the dilemma of most gamblers when it comes to online casinos. if it is new and no reputation yet, you can't trust your funds as they can confiscate your fund without reason. you will always find a fly-by-night online casino. but in terms of physical casinos, hard to find unregistered one as it is hard to operate continuously without being seen by authorities.
hero member
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Either the government legalizes gambling or not people will always abuse a setup system, forbthe fact that we have a large number of gamblers with everyone competing to make winning from a casino and some begin to device means to cheat abd byepass the process to the normal protocol, we have to consider that gambling is also decentralized in the sense that no single authority in charge of every gambling activities, so anyone can decided on coming in with something new to offer gamblers irrespective of the circumstances attached.
If gambling is already legalized, there is no need for an illegal gambling anymore however there are gambling operators who can still be considered as illegal if they don't get a permit or license to operate. They do this because maybe processing one will take time and can cost them more money.

Also, these people already have bad record and they will get busted for this if the government will do a background check about it. Gambling itself is not decentralized but if it was a crypto based gambling site then it is possible but gamblers must be careful with this as some can label their casino a decentralized or web3 and still ask for a KYC later on. I already saw some casinos like this.
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Some of the reasons why gambling is still illegal is because most government fear the result or adverse effect of gambling addiction on their economy and population in general.
As it is illegal, most of those who play in these regions do so in restricted manner for fear of being apprehended by government policing agents. It is this restriction that also sees age limit strictly upheld in such places.
I doubt the countries who legally operate gambling centres, have such rings and it would be crime to operate one as they legally operate gambling centres.
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Gambling rings are high-risk and high-reward operations that take advantage of market demand and turn it in their favor. Their modus operandi thrives on secrecy and they are involved in organizing all sorts of gambling games - slots, poker, blackjack, sports bet etc.Although the law enforcement agencies are doing their best, it is still a lot of work trying to crackdown on these rings. Gambling rings are illegal and people who are caught may either pay a huge fine or serve jail time.

I want to believe that so many people who patronize these gambling rings may have lost a lot of money or scammed and there is nothing they can do about it. And one of the reasons why people may even choose to patronize these gambling rings aside the high rewards is because gambling is banned in their society.

However I am thinking that if gambling is legalized, we would see a drastic reduction (not total elimination) in the operations of these rings. My reasons are that their activities will be carried out in a fair and transparent manner such that cases of frauds and scams will be eliminated as there will be proper mechanisms in place to prevent and protect the gamblers.

Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?

What strive demands in gambling always result from the incompetence of the government, that been said. Now, when the citizens see anything that gives quick money, they always give it all and hence, these gambling rings take the advantage of it and explore society as a result. When government fails to provide jobs and creative mediums for talented and skilled people, trust me, they cannot swive away from gambling, this is the same pressure we have in my country, the only difference between these rings and the ones here is that they are well coordinated and people don't value casino games but they will wager any amount for sportsbooks.

Gambling rings can be reduced to the barest minimum but there is a need to protect the people so they wouldn't get carried away by those high returns and they should increase regulatory sanctions against these bad casinos who promised high returns with high risk.
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Just like in any other illegal activity, the strong implementation of legalization will reduce the number of services that are running in the shadow. In gambling, it's really important to have strong legalization to redirect people to only choosing legal operations allowed by the government.

If possible, heavy sanctions should be imposed on those who will attempt to operate illegal gambling operations.

I hope that way, illegal gambling activity will be minimized and will serve as a discouragement as afraid to face the consequences.
I mostly blame those that are patronizing the illegal rings, even more than the government and those rings themselves. If you patronize illegality, then what are you?

They thrive with patronage and they could be defeated without patronage. Government has a responsibility for this but it's a collective responsibility in my thought. I will never make the mistake of gambling at a casino that is not duly registered and even regulated.

This has helped me to avoid empowering the wrong people and patronizing illegality in society.
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Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?
Yes it can be reduce because of the consequences you can face if you opted to gamble in such activity, but not totally eliminated since some illegal operators will continue what they used probably because of the huge profit.

Anyway, if you're a gambler, why risk playing in illegal gambling if there's many option already to gamble conveniently? Online casinos are already popular and you can gamble anywhere as long as there's a gadget. These gambling rings can be eliminated if no gamblers will patronize such activity.
Illegal casinos will continue to operate even though most casinos have received legality from the government. But I agree that it is better to play in a legalized casino than to endure playing in an illegal casino because we can avoid problems that might arise later. In addition, illegal casinos may be supervised more. It is also possible that the government will seal or close the casino and arrest all gamblers who play gambling in the casino. Instead of having such an experience, we better avoid it before it's too late. But the government has to communicate with all parties before they legalize casinos because this has consequences for gamblers.
hero member
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However I am thinking that if gambling is legalized, we would see a drastic reduction (not total elimination) in the operations of these rings. My reasons are that their activities will be carried out in a fair and transparent manner such that cases of frauds and scams will be eliminated as there will be proper mechanisms in place to prevent and protect the gamblers.

Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?

Yes definitely, having a legal framework is a good protection for any gambler. That is why I don't like outright bans from the government, it would be much better to tightly regulate the gambling industry instead of banning it. Because there will always be people who will go around the ban. Just because something is illegal doesn't mean people won't do it. I only gamble in countries where casinos are allowed and never had any contact with a gambling ring. For me personally the risk would be to big that something goes wrong. What if you win big and they refuse to pay out the winnings? There is nothing we can do, the police or courts won't help us. Legalising the gambling industry is the best way.
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I share in your opinion @Op.
When something is made legal for all in a society, people don't lose money trying to access such a service, simply because, everybody knows the service exists and also knows the legal way of accessing it without being scammed.

I too share in the opinion as well, the government don't realize that they're doing more harm than good when they banned things that are widely used by their citizens. Instead of banning they could have controlled how that thing is been used through legalization. Some gamblers would even stop gambling since it's now legal and doesn't give the the high risk feeling.

Is just like with drugs, many peoples that abuse it do so because it's illegal, you won't see people wanting to do things that are legal because it doesn't have any risk to it. Legalization of gambling will not only reduced the Gambling rings but might even reduced the rate at which people gamble.
legendary
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Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?
Yes it can be reduce because of the consequences you can face if you opted to gamble in such activity, but not totally eliminated since some illegal operators will continue what they used probably because of the huge profit.

Anyway, if you're a gambler, why risk playing in illegal gambling if there's many option already to gamble conveniently? Online casinos are already popular and you can gamble anywhere as long as there's a gadget. These gambling rings can be eliminated if no gamblers will patronize such activity.
Without a doubt illegal casino operations can be reduced significantly if gambling is legalized and regulated at a country, but those illegal operations will not disappear completely and that is because they can offer competitions that you cannot find at regular casinos as they are not popular enough for casinos to include them or they are illegal, so as much as we may dislike it there will always be some gamblers which will be interested in gambling there.
hero member
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Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?
Yes it can be reduce because of the consequences you can face if you opted to gamble in such activity, but not totally eliminated since some illegal operators will continue what they used probably because of the huge profit.

Anyway, if you're a gambler, why risk playing in illegal gambling if there's many option already to gamble conveniently? Online casinos are already popular and you can gamble anywhere as long as there's a gadget. These gambling rings can be eliminated if no gamblers will patronize such activity.
legendary
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Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?

I believe so!

There are many advantages in legalizing gambling in any country in the world and on this issue of clandestinity there would also be a very large impact because, among others, it would be possible to punish those who exploit gambling inappropriately. In addition to the corruption of police officers and other officials who exercise power over clandestine gambling houses. Considerably increase tax collection in order to invest in security and investigative intelligence against clandestine games that exploit players and also generate jobs and income for people, formalizing business and reducing people's attraction to doing things illegally.
legendary
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Nobody would go to these gambling rings even if gambling is banned in their jurisdiction. People who can't gamble in their country according to the law of that country, can use VPN to bypass the country based issues, and only choose some non-KYC gambling websites (nowadays, there are enough sites that allow gamblers to play at their websites without KYC) so there comes least risk of getting caught even if you gamble. By saying "caught", I never want to convey that doing illegal activities is good because ultimately, if it's not allowed at your place then it's actually illegal for you to gamble. However, that's the best I can do instead of risking my identity to go and play with these gambling rings which is actually run by either criminals or mafias where we risk our life both side, as if we don't get caught by the police, we risk our life in the hands of these criminals who may either kill us or misuse our identity (if the gambler is too stupid to share his personal details with them).
legendary
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Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?
They'll somewhat play a role but I wouldn't count on them reducing the activities as much because like you've said they can never be eliminated for good.

Overall though it's still good to have gambling regulators that can help so they can keep tabs on these gambling places and make sure they don't get away in case they go south.
legendary
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When a gambling gets legalized from the government, of course, you have to be prepared with gambler data that will be owned by the government, there is no privacy and gambling site users are required to deposit KYC in order to access gambling features. The pros and cons of this legalization will emerge. But positively legalizing gambling will reduce fraudulent practices that are often carried out on gambling sites such as money laundering practices that are common and make scammers free to erase their fraudulent tracks with gambling sites. The government also gets a share of the gambling profits by imposing taxes, so government revenue will increase.
But in some governments gambling really cannot be legalized for certain reasons and that is absolute.
sr. member
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However I am thinking that if gambling is legalized, we would see a drastic reduction (not total elimination) in the operations of these rings. My reasons are that their activities will be carried out in a fair and transparent manner such that cases of frauds and scams will be eliminated as there will be proper mechanisms in place to prevent and protect the gamblers.

Culprits will always find a way to stay away from being monitored by the authorities.

Of course they will try to hide if not their operation will be shutdown and the people behind will be arrested.  Unless the illegal activity have some high official backing them.

The good thing is, gambling being legalized will reduce the operations of the gambling rings as also you have mentioned too. The legalization should also involve people that keep supporting illegal gambling despite the fact that it's illegal.

The more number of established successful operations by the authorities to take down illegal gambling activities while at the same, responsible people that are part of running the said illegal gambling will be caught and jailed, is a good step towards the whole elimination bit by bit.

But legalization of gambling does not assure that these illegal activities will completely shutdown.  It will surely decline in number but there will still some who will try to bypass authority and keep on doing illegal activities such as Gambling Rings.
legendary
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I share in your opinion @Op.
When something is made legal for all in a society, people don't lose money trying to access such a service, simply because, everybody knows the service exists and also knows the legal way of accessing it without being scammed.

But when an activity/service is banned in a society, legal means of accessing such a service is automatically closed from the people, those who wish to access such services will have no choice but to resort to the illegal way, and this illegal way sure would have scammers and fraudsters lurking around, looking for people to swindle off their hard earned money.

So I believe that, if gambling is made legal for all, the issue of scam through gambling rings will greatly be reduced to it's barest minimum.
sr. member
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Do you think that there is a role that gambling legalization will play in reducing the activities of gambling rings?

The purpose of legalization is to reduce illegal gambling activity in the first place, right?

It now depends if these gambling rings will cooperate with the government and will turn into legit gambling owners that will follow the law. Not just it will reduce the activities of gambling rings but it will help to boost the market industry of gambling and that will be good for the country.

Illegal gambling won't be totally eliminated though because of some factors especially if these are being protected by a higher corrupt government official or top-ranked uniform personnel but as long as the government keeps shutting down those, illegal gambling activities should be reduced.
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It can reduce the illegal activities once the law enforcement hardly implement this one because if its just a law, many can still abuse that and continue their illegal activities. Rewarding those who will report illegal activities can also be a big help because for sure many will get attracted to that reward money.

Anyway, gambling is also legal in my country yet the law enforcement is not that strict because you can still gamble illegal games, legally because of our old tradition during wake.
legendary
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However I am thinking that if gambling is legalized, we would see a drastic reduction (not total elimination) in the operations of these rings. My reasons are that their activities will be carried out in a fair and transparent manner such that cases of frauds and scams will be eliminated as there will be proper mechanisms in place to prevent and protect the gamblers.

Culprits will always find a way to stay away from being monitored by the authorities.

The good thing is, gambling being legalized will reduce the operations of the gambling rings as also you have mentioned too. The legalization should also involve people that keep supporting illegal gambling despite the fact that it's illegal.

The more number of established successful operations by the authorities to take down illegal gambling activities while at the same, responsible people that are part of running the said illegal gambling will be caught and jailed, is a good step towards the whole elimination bit by bit.
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