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legendary
Activity: 987
Merit: 1003
This just in... "Yahoo Writes Article about Kore"!!!
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/korecoin-team-announces-korephone-smart-041800325.html

Oh wait MikeMike just paid to list that Ad on AccessWire... Good Hype though! Very Smart!

Maybe this is why Kore had a sell off, to pay for the Ad.

http://www.accesswire.com/accesswire_yahoo_finance.aspx

Keep staking those cheap coins you picked up MikeMike!

My first inclination is to tell you "You have no idea" what Kore is about and where it's going.
BUT...
Then I remember who you are and that you DO Have a "Little bit of an idea".

Not one Kore was sold.
 Grin

Keep watching for "The Power of Satoshi"...

So the AD came out of your Pocket, Nice gesture to hype and boost the market and then sell. Good thinking...

Awww shoot I was hoping you had sold some Kore and cause people on your thread to worry about volume:

KoreCommunity,

The Korecoin volume is going lower and lower everyday. We need to change that. Let's make our market look more liquid and professional.

How it works?
Easy.
Let's trade KORE and get some money   

Example:

Buy order at 16586 (bigger than the biggest bid) and sell order at 17978 (lower than the lowest ask).
Repeat process.
Repeat process.




legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 1020
★ Ⓚ KORE TEAM Ⓚ ★
This just in... "Yahoo Writes Article about Kore"!!!
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/korecoin-team-announces-korephone-smart-041800325.html

Oh wait MikeMike just paid to list that Ad on AccessWire... Good Hype though! Very Smart!

Maybe this is why Kore had a sell off, to pay for the Ad.

http://www.accesswire.com/accesswire_yahoo_finance.aspx

Keep staking those cheap coins you picked up MikeMike!

My first inclination is to tell you "You have no idea" what Kore is about and where it's going.
BUT...
Then I remember who you are and that you DO Have a "Little bit of an idea".

Not one Kore was sold.
 Grin

Keep watching for "The Power of Satoshi"...
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
Very smart then, Zebedee allows UDP ports. Looks like there are attempts to DDoS proof the product also.

I'm not here to bake cookies Cheesy


Payment for Monthly Subscriptions will be made with Kore?

Of course, and only with KORE.


If there are not enough monthly subscriptions, you will also need to sell off shares of Kore to support the operating costs, how will this be possible if you don't own a large portion of the coin to stake?

Will these costs be reasonable, and will you make this information on accounting public?



I've already buyed all that we need, no more costs for this service.



legendary
Activity: 987
Merit: 1003
This just in... "Yahoo Writes Article about Kore"!!!
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/korecoin-team-announces-korephone-smart-041800325.html

Oh wait MikeMike just paid to list that Ad on AccessWire... Good Hype though! Very Smart!

Maybe this is why Kore had a sell off, to pay for the Ad.

http://www.accesswire.com/accesswire_yahoo_finance.aspx

Keep staking those cheap coins you picked up MikeMike!
legendary
Activity: 987
Merit: 1003
Very smart then, Zebedee allows UDP ports. Looks like there are attempts to DDoS proof the product also.

Payment for Monthly Subscriptions will be made with Kore?

If there are not enough monthly subscriptions, you will also need to sell off shares of Kore to support the operating costs, how will this be possible if you don't own a large portion of the coin to stake?

Will these costs be reasonable, and will you make this information on accounting public?
sr. member
Activity: 280
Merit: 250
The direction of Kore should be set to benefit the coin and holders of the coin not as a Merchant selling Kore Calling cards on the side, with no linking to a usage of coin creating a demand for the coin to be bought.

It may be a good thing Kore didn't implement the calling card yet since the Fair thing to do is roll out Kore as the first Functioning Coin Launch in the history of Alt Coins.

Then see how much a new structure will pay off for the Dividends of an IPO. In any scenario the Devs make out fine, it is just the bagholders that need to be addressed which is why you IPO futures to them. Bagholders also get to get in on the new launch at the ground floor of a Fully Functional coin. It may be possible that much of the bagholders have made gains too I am not sure how bad the dump was and how many were affected since only 27 votes were total on the vote page. Goes to the point that either people left and did not care and took their losses dumped low and walked away.

If Kore Devs like the idea of a Kore VPN with Anon Telco they could also use the IPO to raise money for the hardware to build the network. See how it goes now? I am only attempting to make a stronger coin. There are weaknesses currently. These weaknesses could also be addressed without an IPO but ideally you would see more support "I think" from a new launch that could even be a year out. It is like the entire coin could be chalked up to a test run and any flaws, including ideals, were addressed to make the final version the best possible version.


VPN is already done in Beta. Working with a embedded Zebedee vpn software.

I've not interesting about Calling Cards, and here no way for Anon Telco. No interesting for IPO. The montly subscription will the same of skype or mobile phones, you will have an amount of minutes to use for a specific country. Also users will be able to rent an incoming geo-number.


The Telco Gateway will be in EU and will respect the EU laws.





legendary
Activity: 987
Merit: 1003
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As for the haters...
Well, as proven here... they are gonna hate.

I've seen some very intelligent manipulative fudsters
weave in legitimate questions but this cnick surpasses them all...
FWIW

As proven where? I am not a Hater. I have stated many times I like Kore and respect Kore. Kore just needs a few issues addressed to make it stronger.

I won't be buying Kore since I don't need to buy any to make it work, no one needs to buy any. You stated this yourself and said isn't it great that you don't have to buy any and it works, MikeMike just became a Fudster! If no one needs to buy Kore to make the functionality work, the price will stagnate. The only thing Kore can do is Hype itself on speculation.

By ignoring these issues or calling them FUD you reinforce the weaknesses I pointed out. Mainly since this thread was only started to see if Anon Telco was possible. Which I misunderstood this, and Kore will not be doing Anon Telco anyways. But the other points became glaring issues now only to be called FUD and dismissed. This shows a bit of ignorance on your part.
legendary
Activity: 2254
Merit: 1020
★ Ⓚ KORE TEAM Ⓚ ★
I finally went over to the Kore thread and did some reading. From what I gather the VoIP feature has not been released yet, is that correct? It looks like we'll have an alpha in a few days. That will give us VoIP that is anonymous through Tor. So you need to run your wallet in the Tor network in order to make anonymous calls is what it looks like. Right?




Anon VoIP has been working for weeks on windows wallet version.
TOR is built in...No need to setup and run TOR...
Enjoy!
 Smiley

As for the haters...
Well, as proven here... they are gonna hate.

I've seen some very intelligent manipulative fudsters
weave in legitimate questions but this cnick surpasses them all...
FWIW




★  KORE VoIPA DIRECTIONS  ★




KoreCoin Windows - v2.2.9.1:VOIP-ALPHA
https://mega.co.nz/#!AcNXnSQD!4JGdFySEFyh8RMWPjMsoaYfCbpCTG4wilBU_afKsSNU


NEW: When you click the "CONNECT" tab it automatically registers you.
Other than that continue using the same setup process in the video etc. found below.

Video Tutorial for Direct Calling Only, Not using Buddy List:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzWDAnVEHoE&feature=youtu.be

OR, You can Follow the Listed Directions Below.

ALPHA is Testing Mode so Report all "NEW"  Bugs to Eurbids.




FYI:  If your Router supports UPNP you don't need to forward
the SIP Port 5060 manually, UPNP does the work for you.
If your Router doesn't support UPNP Then Voice will only work in one direction.
This means you have to forward the port 5060. Wink

STEPS: #1-3 for Direct and Buddy List Calling Setup - Use Direct Calling
1-Go to the "Receive Address Tab" and create a new address.
Label it however you like. Might makes sense to designate it your VoIP Address.

2-Right Click the Address and choose the bottom option "Set VoIP Account".

3-Go to "VoIP Calls" tab and click on the "CONNECT" tab to REGISTER.

STEPS: #4 and #5 for Direct Calling Only at this time:
4-Enter the Address you'd like to call in the "Direct Calling/IM" box near the bottom.
You will see two tiny boxes on the right. Click on the "Left Tiny Box w-Speaker Icon" to dial.

5-Watch the "Call Status" box, You will see it say "Calling".
Whoever is Receiving the call has to accept the call by clicking "Answer Call"
that will show in the box above the "Call Status" box.

To hang up simply click "Hang Up".

★ SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS for those in "Restricted Internet Use Areas":
If you are in a region where internet is monitored by government and your ISP uses
a transparent proxy for content filtering, your wallet might not "connect"
In order to make the wallet working, download "Pd Proxy"

What is transparent proxy : http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-a-transparent-proxy-server.htm
What is "Pd proxy" : http://www.pdproxy.com/index.htm




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kore_%28moon%29


legendary
Activity: 1582
Merit: 1001
After looking through the block chain I think there is no need for an ipo.
Distribution looks healthy.
Well healthy as far as altcoins go.

Everything looks good as far as I can see, we just need progress towards beta.

My advice...  trickle buy in, I don't see this going back to a pow or an ipo.
legendary
Activity: 987
Merit: 1003
The direction of Kore should be set to benefit the coin and holders of the coin not as a Merchant selling Kore Calling cards on the side, with no linking to a usage of coin creating a demand for the coin to be bought.

It may be a good thing Kore didn't implement the calling card yet since the Fair thing to do is roll out Kore as the first Functioning Coin Launch in the history of Alt Coins.

Then see how much a new structure will pay off for the Dividends of an IPO. In any scenario the Devs make out fine, it is just the bagholders that need to be addressed which is why you IPO futures to them. Bagholders also get to get in on the new launch at the ground floor of a Fully Functional coin. It may be possible that much of the bagholders have made gains too I am not sure how bad the dump was and how many were affected since only 27 votes were total on the vote page. Goes to the point that either people left and did not care and took their losses dumped low and walked away.

If Kore Devs like the idea of a Kore VPN with Anon Telco they could also use the IPO to raise money for the hardware to build the network. See how it goes now? I am only attempting to make a stronger coin. There are weaknesses currently. These weaknesses could also be addressed without an IPO but ideally you would see more support "I think" from a new launch that could even be a year out. It is like the entire coin could be chalked up to a test run and any flaws, including ideals, were addressed to make the final version the best possible version.
legendary
Activity: 987
Merit: 1003
He is making some good points.

I'll leave it all to the kore team but nick shouldn't be dismissed as a fudster
Most of us have been burned in the past, and open discussion by a community about the direction a coin should take helps to assure us that there is a path forward.

Yes, I got burned by Crypt. Not comparing either.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, as I never intended to seem like FUD I just got called a Fudder by MikeMike and I started off this thread in a conflicting way.

legendary
Activity: 987
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Are you affiliated with viorcoin?

No way, not involved with any coin right now. Trying to decide if Uro is bogus also and mining as I go with 30MHash. I would love to be involved with Kore, I just can't get past the original PoW and block payouts. And the other issues that go along with it.

You didn't like my ideas? You must know that Tor is not the best solution which is possibly why the Wallet to Wallet is free. I only did a little research to find quite a bit of latency issues. But it is Anon so trade offs are in place. This does nothing to bolster the value of Kore. I hope you see and understand this is a statement of fact.

If I give you something for free what incentive do you have to buy the coin? Speculation?

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Please stop spam. When all the features will be released, this coin will reach the moon.

This is my thread btw.
legendary
Activity: 1582
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He is making some good points.

I'll leave it all to the kore team but nick shouldn't be dismissed as a fudster
Most of us have been burned in the past, and open discussion by a community about the direction a coin should take helps to assure us that there is a path forward.
legendary
Activity: 987
Merit: 1003
I can think of many ways to increase the value of kore if the tech becomes fully developed.

As an investor don't buy coins in alpha unless you love gambling.
But if you are an innovator and have a plan for after beta alpha is a great time to invest.

Yes good point, my reasoning is based on the 3 Day PoW leaving large amounts of coin in the Original Devs control. Along side this would be that there was no functionality to Kore when launched. Why not state that the coin will roll in percentages of the old coin into IPO and pay dividends to these holders. The Dev may earn a percentage at this point but the new coin will be distributed properly if it is advertized for a long time before it is launched. This way many other people could actually buy up the old coin in the interim and also at a discount to cash the old Dev out too. This would be before the astronomical rise of the Kore value as the first to ever launch fully functional. The reasons would be obvious and for fairness. You can make the Block Structure fair and as intricate as you want to share the coin.

#KoreValues

Work out the best scenarios to make these items leverage Kore to the hilt. Take your time doing so, don't rush, and work out every detail going forward. Make sure each aspect of an IPO would make sense even with small percentages of dividends since the new Launch may make the coin worth 10's to 100's times more valuable.

This way you also have a bigger economy instead of multiple angles. People may mine and dump for profit but the market will right itself since the coin will be around for quite some time. With an Anon Telco function it would be the Holy Grail of Tor functionality, Legitimized.

And at that point Kore would have a PoP to access the LEC legitimately so why not create a Private Kore VPN to keep the traffic on UDP ports with higher availability and faster speeds since Tor is not Commercially viable. Instead of using IP addresses internally, you could use Kore addresses as traffic. The Kore Address could be the TunnelKey to communicate securely with your wallet. Even if you create a new Address you just talk (send data) with that new address. No IP for anyone to discover later just a layer of data traversing the VPN securely since you would be required to have a Kore wallet to get on. All transactions would be secure since no DDoS could ever block the Data using the right firewalls of course. Multi Layered VPN even.

So an IP address would be used to connect to the VPN externally but communication is encrypted and the IP would only be logged at the Kore VPN but the data sent is wallet to wallet or out to the LEC internally. It would be like encryption within encryption since a Kore wallet would just communicate freely in this VPN environment.

I think most people would like this Kore VPN idea better than Tor since it is Commercially acceptable and more reliable. This is what people pay for, properly managed networks for services rendered.
legendary
Activity: 1582
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I can think of many ways to increase the value of kore if the tech becomes fully developed.

As an investor don't buy coins in alpha unless you love gambling.
But if you are an innovator and have a plan for after beta alpha is a great time to invest.
legendary
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legendary
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Wow!

Thanks Eurbids for the enlightenment!
Did not see that coming Smiley

Thanks to all participants in this thread.

Good.
sr. member
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I'm very happy to see this thread. Because now I understand that some people don't have understand well about Kore.

At first I want to tell that this coming, maybe, because of me. I don't like very much to speak in the deep tech, because I know that many people come to be boring to read something that they don't understand well.

At second, I think you need to read more better my posts, because your doubts don't coming from a missunderstand, but by the fact that you have not documented properly.

I try to answer you point to point.



1. Kore 1.0 - Old Dev, PreMine
------------------------------
one of first thing that I've tried to do when I started in Kore was to find and ban the orginal Dev addresses. Without success, the coins was moved and mixed many times, and was impossibile to ban it. And I cannot risk to ban an exchange address or a big bagholder user. During this I've find this article : http://www.cryptoarticles.com/crypto-news/korecoin-uses-pre-mine-to-repay-miners-after-fork I was not in Kore when this happened, and I've think that maybe the premine was really used for a good thing.

Besides I've open another little PoW period in Kore 2.0 for 100k coins in total. This was not a present to people, but was a good thing for take back attention to the coin and shape a new community.



2. KoreVoip
------------
I think that VoiP into a wallet it's the must feature that we have see in the last months. Because give to the users to interact, with voice for now and with a video soon. This open a new hundreds of new opportunity.

If you going to read my old posts, you will see that I've never told that Voip2Telco will be Anon. This cannot happen because we have a severe laws. The only Anon calls are address2address. How VoiP2Telco will work it's simple, you will must to make a registration on the Kore website and pay a monthly subscription. This is the onlyone way and your Kore-address will be always reserved and never associate.

Ok why use Kore instead Skype ? Because Skype monitoring all calls, skype2skype too. Kore don't do it and don't logging your IP or your actions. Besides Kore will be more cheap.





About PoBA and all another new features in timeline, you have to wait the official release and official brief.


if you have other questions, will be happy to enlighten you further



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