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newbie
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September 19, 2017, 04:49:10 AM
#79
I'm taking part at Open money airdrop now. I don't know how successfful this project will be. But I think it should be successfful. I saw that there is good team, and if they will work hard - there is will be great result.

What airdrop? Where is this airdrop, I might want to join too
full member
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September 17, 2017, 10:54:02 PM
#78


My email exchange with the Open Money team leads me to believe they are a scam.

There's no way I would put any of my real money into it.

sr. member
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September 17, 2017, 06:29:44 PM
#77
I believe that the Open Money project will help large people learn about the technology of blockchain and understand that the future is behind it, it will make many times in their life easier, but it is necessary that something happens that is spasmodic.
At this point,the blockchain technology is still in its infancy,and although I still can not say how it will influence to the people in the future,still has many problems to solve.
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September 17, 2017, 05:58:33 PM
#76
2. Consumer Apps - projects like Open Money are going to facilitate the integration of crypto into mainstream apps like games, dating apps and all sorts of mainstream software.

They have at least two hen-egg problems which afaics (after skimming their white paper) they have no solution for:

  • Users of apps do not have the tokens and won't spend fiat to buy tokens when they can spend fiat directly in apps. Users have no incentive to go to Open Money's playstore.
  • Existing blockchain technologies can't scale (or are whale controlled future political clusterfucks that will have a low ceiling of growth due to fighting over the power vacuum) and/or are fraught future securities regulation which could make the tokens illegal to spend.

Open Money may end up needing to collaborate with my project in order to reach their goals. They claim expertise in creating apps.

Why would you collaborate with ICO?I thought all ICO's will face future regulatory issues?...welcome back  Wink

Their tokens will be entirely useless in the long-run. It's entirely a speculation token for exchanges, if it doesn't get banned before speculators can cash out. Their token will never be the token that is used by apps. I presume they will pay out their revenue as dividends to token holders?

They can collaborate on my project and spend their raised funds without encumbering the token on my project. That is if they are serious about achieving their objectives. They might however just be the same as every ICO in taking the money and doing some useless shit and then doing another ICO project later. Wash and repeat.

I'm proposing a decentralized alternative.

I'm not against fundraising as long as it doesn't encumber the token of the decentralized ledger with securities regulation (which I believe will ultimately be a kiss of death for the token). Any way, Open Money is not making a decentralized ledger token for apps. They will accept ETH, BTC, etc.. Their token is just like a share in their company, with some useless hype about the token being useful in the apps.

I'm trying to figure out now how to organize a fundraising for a corporation that will produce apps for my project, so it would be similar to Open Money's token in that dividends from apps would be paid out as dividends, but I wouldn't be lying to speculators about those shares becoming utility tokens in the app. Also Open Money intends to leech as a parasite on all apps, but the free market will route around their proposed fees. Instead I propose that the corporation would build apps and charge users fees directly, thus the fees can't be eliminated without replacing those apps (which if they have first mover status, are unlikely to be replaced). However, I might be open to the tokens trading on exchanges, if it doesn't get into legal trouble. But unfortunately I think there is no way to issue tokens which can become tradeable on exchanges without the issuers being culpable to future criminal proceedings. Refer to the blog I cited before in the Filecoin thread:

These are non-trivial continuing compliance obligations which are of fundamental relevance for cryptocurrencies – keeping in mind that a blockchain is traditionally the back-end of a fully automatic system designed to facilitate the instantaneous peer-to-peer transfer of digital property (meaning it’s likely to be classed as “interstate commerce”).

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If however most of these tokens are investment contracts in the end, we know that due to the impact of the securities laws that registration is more or less the only thing we can do in order to operate a company coin within the bounds of US law. Distributing tokens with the knowledge that a crypto exchange might download the client and allow existing token-holders (to whom the tokens were privately sold) to list and start trading the tokens could see pre-sale purchasers deemed “mere conduits for a wider distribution” and see private offering status lost.

...there is also a non-zero risk that coin offerings will be classed as MLMs of some kind that are

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   “organized and operated in such a manner that the realization of profit by any participant is predicated upon the exploitation of others who have virtually no chance of receiving a return on their investment and who had been induced to participate by misrepresentations as to potential earnings.”

When the current bubble collapses (and it will), this last point might become more relevant, particularly if n00b bagholders grab their pitchforks and start asking Uncle Sam to get involved so help them get their money back. Which, if these are investment contracts, is a request aforementioned bagholders will be perfectly entitled to make.

If this happens, although the SEC will stay in the loop, the really exciting action will be in the domain of the tort lawyers and federal and state prosecutors working in tandem with the FTC. See, e.g., the recent case of Josh Garza and GAW Miners (which involved fraudulent misrepresentations relating in part to a cryptocurrency called Paycoin). Although in the civil enforcement action the SEC got a $12 million default judgment, the U.S. Attorney got a guilty plea for one good, old-fashioned count of wire fraud. No Securities Act required.

Note that if this interpretation is adopted, some state laws cast a much wider net to penalize participants than Section 5 of the Securities Act of 1933 does.

It's not only the USA. For example, see this for the UK.

Potentially a tremendous amount of hurt is coming to these issuers and their promoters (affiliates). And to speculators that get caught when the bubble pops as the authorities crack down. Warnings have been issued but speculators are determined to get their finger tips burned up to their armpits, because they are salivating over the 10X gains from selling bags to greater fools. Wise investors will avoid this and transition their crypto investments to legally structured investments. And to projects which aren't just useless hype. Because when the bubble collapses, those projects which are genuinely building market share are the ones which do not go to zero.

We're at a fork in the road. Choose wisely whether you want to heed recent warnings by the authorities or not.



Purchases made with the OPEN Token will receive
a premium value compared to other digital currencies

Users will never use their token, regardless of the discounts offered for using it. They know this, and this leads me to believe they are scammers, because they damn well know they are lying. They are creating some useless hype, which can not possibly come to fruition.

Only users who already hold tokens will spend them, and all the token holders of any cryptocurrency are speculators who have no interest whatsoever in playing games and apps.

The problem of mainstreaming cryptocurrency is about distribution. We need to get the tokens into the hands of the masses without asking them to buy the tokens. That is the major challenge. That is what I am working on. Once we have a million users with tokens, then the apps will come. Building app infrastructure without onboarding users, is not going to produce any result other than to have an app infrastructure ready for which every project accomplishes the onboarding.

Also the type of apps created is very important. The apps need to have some unique feature which can only be accomplished on a decentralized ledger, so that the apps aren't duplicated by non-decentralized ledger apps on more popular mainstream playstores.

I have put a lot of effort into designing all of this. I have very detailed private documents.

Btw, has anyone even vetted the claims of Open Money's devs about their past accomplishments? Are they hyping some useless shit they produced in the past? I haven't vetted it, so I am skeptical.
hero member
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September 17, 2017, 04:04:54 PM
#75
Lots of people are wondering what the next big deal in crypto will be.

What will take us from lingering on the fringe and push this technology out where everybody is interested?

Here are a few ideas:

1. Making it easy to transfer from crypto to fiat. Projects like bitpay, VIVA's Galaxy Vault etc. are working to make it simple to move money between the crypto world and the fiat economy.

2. Consumer Apps - projects like Open Money are going to facilitate the integration of crypto into mainstream apps like games, dating apps and all sorts of mainstream software.

3. Non profit initiatives - will charity coins break down the barrier? Coins like 2Give are sure trying!

Anyway, what do you think?

Leave a comment below!


Why does presale need ethereum address?RACISM towards BTC peeps  Angry
hero member
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September 17, 2017, 03:59:20 PM
#74
2. Consumer Apps - projects like Open Money are going to facilitate the integration of crypto into mainstream apps like games, dating apps and all sorts of mainstream software.

They have at least two hen-egg problems which afaics (after skimming their white paper) they have no solution for:

  • Users of apps do not have the tokens and won't spend fiat to buy tokens when they can spend fiat directly in apps. Users have no incentive to go to Open Money's playstore.
  • Existing blockchain technologies can't scale (or are whale controlled future political clusterfucks that will have a low ceiling of growth due to fighting over the power vacuum) and/or are fraught future securities regulation which could make the tokens illegal to spend.

Open Money may end up needing to collaborate with my project in order to reach their goals. They claim expertise in creating apps.

Why would you collaborate with ICO?I thought all ICO's will face future regulatory issues?...welcome back  Wink
newbie
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September 17, 2017, 07:57:38 AM
#73
I'm from Russia! This project deserves attention, since today the issue of Fiat's interaction with the crypto-currencies is important, bypassing exchange offices and maximally preserving anonymity in this sphere. Thank you!
newbie
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September 17, 2017, 07:29:11 AM
#72
I believe that the Open Money project will help large people learn about the technology of blockchain and understand that the future is behind it, it will make many times in their life easier, but it is necessary that something happens that is spasmodic.
newbie
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September 17, 2017, 07:09:13 AM
#71
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I wish success to the program and to persons who organized it. I hope it works out right. Thank you very much!
full member
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September 17, 2017, 07:03:10 AM
#70
Very cool idea) i realy think soo) good luck
newbie
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September 17, 2017, 07:02:16 AM
#69
We are still early adopters. The more applications and markets will support CC the more end users will get into the ecosystem. The easier and clearer the process of payments will be, the faster adoption process will move. And price volatility issues gonna vanish with time as capitalization of CC grows as more and more people involved. The future fall of some hyping ICOs will just put more oil into crypto-fire and make more hype and faster adoption Smiley
 What about open money - bringing together and organizing the people and resources necessary will facilitate the processes of adoption at higher rates. So definitely yes - it will help make crypto go mainstream.
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September 17, 2017, 06:59:46 AM
#68
I think that mainstream addoption is the most important condition that must be met for the project to be really successfull. Building of a big community is therefore very important and in my opinion Open Money is doing a good job in this field.
newbie
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September 17, 2017, 06:40:02 AM
#67
We long needed a concept like Open Money. A brilliant idea and I hope the same future is its embodiment, according to the roadmap at the end of 2018. I'm not going to sell my OPEN tokens. I think that in two years we will all use them in payment inside applications. The company will facilitate simplification of access to the market for both developers and users of applications. Even judging by the application of the bounty made in a competitive game form - it's very easy to take part and use Open Money. The company aims to simplify access to block chain technologies for all earth people. It's mailnstream anyway! Smiley
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I invest only in new technologies
September 17, 2017, 06:29:19 AM
#66
Thanks to the founders for the good product. I wanted to ask a question for my development team. With a large number of developer registrations, we can be at the bottom of the list, can we go forward on the top lines, perhaps for an additional fee?
newbie
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September 17, 2017, 06:02:57 AM
#65

I believe that this may well be. The crypto currency market is already making its way to the countries of the third world, and your idea is gaining popularity very much, therefore it will not be left out. Another question is how the government will treat the crypto currency.
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September 17, 2017, 05:33:39 AM
#64
Open Money might go mainstream, at first, but soon it will burst as it take place some other coins.
sr. member
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September 17, 2017, 05:02:07 AM
#63
I'm taking part at Open money airdrop now. I don't know how successfful this project will be. But I think it should be successfful. I saw that there is good team, and if they will work hard - there is will be great result.
full member
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September 17, 2017, 04:54:30 AM
#62

I think that all of you guys will get a project interesting, promising, to support the wake unequivocally and to recommend also to your friends and acquaintances.
member
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September 17, 2017, 04:38:32 AM
#61
2. Consumer Apps - projects like Open Money are going to facilitate the integration of crypto into mainstream apps like games, dating apps and all sorts of mainstream software.

They have at least two hen-egg problems which afaics (after skimming their white paper) they have no solution for:

  • Users of apps do not have the tokens and won't spend fiat to buy tokens when they can spend fiat directly in apps. Users have no incentive to go to Open Money's playstore.
  • Existing blockchain technologies can't scale (or are whale controlled future political clusterfucks that will have a low ceiling of growth due to fighting over the power vacuum) and/or are fraught future securities regulation which could make the tokens illegal to spend.

Open Money may end up needing to collaborate with my project in order to reach their goals. They claim expertise in creating apps.
newbie
Activity: 22
Merit: 0
September 17, 2017, 04:26:51 AM
#60
Lots of people are wondering what the next big deal in crypto will be.

What will take us from lingering on the fringe and push this technology out where everybody is interested?

Here are a few ideas:

1. Making it easy to transfer from crypto to fiat. Projects like bitpay, VIVA's Galaxy Vault etc. are working to make it simple to move money between the crypto world and the fiat economy.

2. Consumer Apps - projects like Open Money are going to facilitate the integration of crypto into mainstream apps like games, dating apps and all sorts of mainstream software.

3. Non profit initiatives - will charity coins break down the barrier? Coins like 2Give are sure trying!

Anyway, what do you think?

Leave a comment below!


Don't forget decentralized exchanges, built on 0x protocol for example. This is a game changer for the industry.
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