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Topic: Will the free open source Armory wallet continue to be developed going forward? - page 3. (Read 8486 times)

legendary
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Armory Developer
legendary
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armory is the only wallet i use Smiley

Same for me  Wink Do we need more donations or something?

Cute sentiment but I do not think you understand the type of resources required to build this type of software where individuals can generate and hold the private keys of their own wealth. Funding the building out of the core infrastructure the entire community uses has not been cheap and many people have made significant sacrifices of both time and money to get Bitcoin where it is today.

This type of cryptography and software code is complicated and to be sustainable requires very skilled developers. Projects can be maintained on a donation basis but that is usually not very sustainable without either (1) large sacrifices of opportunity cost by the developers, like the extremely poor guy who maintains PGP, or (2) a very generous and magnanimous financial benefactor. Usually it requires a combination of the two like Dr. Wuille, Dr. Adam Back thinks is one of our community's greatest assets, who took a significant pay cut to work full-time on Bitcoin.

To help you understand the magnitude; in Armory's case I and two ideologically aligned friends were the generous and magnanimous financial benefactors of the $600,000 seed round. Additionally, I solely and personally assumed, via binding legal contract, the downside of the exchange rate risk but let the upside in the Bitcoin price accrue to the company so developers would know their paychecks were going to be there and they could plan for their families. As a result, there have been over $1,000,000 of resources consumed by the project. That is many many orders of magnitude more financial support than all of the donations of the entire community combined and 10-20x more than the PGP guy's Linux grant.

And there are other wallet initiatives that have received significant financial assistance like my buddy Roger Ver who helped fund Blockchain.info and Roger and I both funded the initial seed round for Bitpay that has released the Copay wallet.

Unfortunately, great software does not just write itself yet and we should all remember that developers need to eat food, provide for families, use computers, etc. but that is not the world we live in.
legendary
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Rest in Peace armory, we loved you, you never let us down, till now.
Smiley hope this project won't die
legendary
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armory is the only wallet i use Smiley

Same for me  Wink Do we need more donations or something?
legendary
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Franko is Freedom
armory is the only wallet i use Smiley
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1364
Armory Developer
Our bug ticketing and code review engine is internal only. You'll have to toy with it.
full member
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Was the ffreeze branch the same as the gitian-ffreeze currently in the github?

It is in a state that's somehow close to what 0.94 should have been, but it has some major bugs left in it. You can play with it if you wish.
Is there a list of those bugs somewhere? I would like to take a look and see if I can fix them so that I can use 0.94.
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1364
Armory Developer
Was the ffreeze branch the same as the gitian-ffreeze currently in the github?

It is in a state that's somehow close to what 0.94 should have been, but it has some major bugs left in it. You can play with it if you wish.
full member
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Was the ffreeze branch the same as the gitian-ffreeze currently in the github?
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1364
Armory Developer
Would you guys be able to republish it so that we can make aaacommunity developed version based on what has already been written?

If it comes down to that I will release everything I have and maintain the software myself.
Ok.

Can you guys at least put out an update for lowS signatures so that armory will work with bitcoin core 0.11.1?

That's being worked on on top of 0.93.3 afaik.
staff
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Just writing some code
Would you guys be able to republish it so that we can make aaacommunity developed version based on what has already been written?

If it comes down to that I will release everything I have and maintain the software myself.
Ok.

Can you guys at least put out an update for lowS signatures so that armory will work with bitcoin core 0.11.1?
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1364
Armory Developer
Would you guys be able to republish it so that we can make aaacommunity developed version based on what has already been written?

If it comes down to that I will release everything I have and maintain the software myself.
staff
Activity: 3458
Merit: 6793
Just writing some code
So it's no longer on github?

It was removed sometimes mid August
Would you guys be able to republish it so that we can make aaacommunity developed version based on what has already been written?
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1364
Armory Developer
So it's no longer on github?

It was removed sometimes mid August
staff
Activity: 3458
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Just writing some code
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Where can I get it?

If you have a local copy of the ffreeze branch with its last commit (before it was pulled from the repo), you would have access to that.
So it's no longer on github?
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1364
Armory Developer
When will this resume and what exactly stopped its development in the first place?

I will explain that in due time. Rest, assured, the community will get an in length explanation when this whole situation is sorted out.

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Where can I get it?

If you have a local copy of the ffreeze branch with its last commit (before it was pulled from the repo), you would have access to that.
legendary
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Not sounding good. I hope you take care to warn Armory users not to upgrade to latest Bitcoin Core 0.11.1.
staff
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Just writing some code
All FOSS development has halted since sometimes in August. Bug fixes are worked on, but currently the FOSS version is limited to 0.93.

Long story short, we are in the process of figuring things out. I can tell you a couple things for now:

1) The team has a strong intention to resume FOSS development.
When will this resume and what exactly stopped its development in the first place?

2) 0.94 has been ready since July
Where can I get it?
legendary
Activity: 3766
Merit: 1364
Armory Developer
A reply is in order. Stuff I ignore I do on purpose, so no point asking again.

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No comments heard from Armory developers when a person asks about what Armory has that Copay doesn't: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/what-armory-does-that-copay-cant-1205245

Not much to reply to people that don't see the benefit of running full nodes.

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etotheipi hasn't commented here on these forums in months.

I've been the defacto maintainer of the FOSS version since about a year. etotheipi and the rest of the team are busy with the high end enterprise features, and running the company (which is a lot more work than I would have guessed!)

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In any case, will the free open source Armory wallet that we all love continue to be developed going forward? Can I count on it for my bitcoin security over the coming years?

All FOSS development has halted since sometimes in August. Bug fixes are worked on, but currently the FOSS version is limited to 0.93.

Long story short, we are in the process of figuring things out. I can tell you a couple things for now:

1) The team has a strong intention to resume FOSS development.
2) 0.94 has been ready since July
legendary
Activity: 1806
Merit: 1164
I used Armory in the first place for cold storage. Switched to Trezor and no longer use it. Now that hardware wallets are common and inexpensive Armory is looking long in the tooth. If it would fully support Trezor (multiple hidden wallets with passphrases) it would have an edge over myTrezor and Multibit HD as a more private solution. I would very much like to use a fully validating node with Trezor. Would I pay for it? Nope.
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