Will the new President of the Philippines uphold death penalty?

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on August 28, 2016, 05:31:56 AM

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I guess president will passed the death penalty because it seems that we need it in country. Criminals in our society is a huge problem and many of the criminals are not afraid in the law. It will maybe not deterrent but it will be very useful because the president called this law a RETRIBUTION.

Death penalty must be there in every part of the world, especially for crimes such as child rape and murder. A large number of countries have abolished the death penalty, and almost all of them have witnessed a sharp increase in crime rate after that. A prime example is South Africa, now known as the crime capital of the world.

I know it passed anyway but not have been implemented right now ,i agree that it's a must in every part of the world ,because crime is everywhere if they want to rape or murder then death penalty is implenmented they will be scared to commit a crime and to die .like war on drugs many people surrenders just because they're afraid to shoot on the road .why not there's a given chance for them to change .

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well the current president expressed his desire to have death penalty restored and if it would be entirely up to him, the Philippines would already have death penalty implemented. the problem is that before this administration, there is little fear to commit crime. although i personally think that death penalty is not morally correct, with what's happening right now it might just be necessary. though there's a crucial point here that the only ones who would be getting this punishment would be the poor and lower class criminals. i think the current administration should tread carefully with implementing this if ever

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Quote from: Sponsoredby15 on August 28, 2016, 02:33:08 AM

I guess president will passed the death penalty because it seems that we need it in country. Criminals in our society is a huge problem and many of the criminals are not afraid in the law. It will maybe not deterrent but it will be very useful because the president called this law a RETRIBUTION.

Death penalty must be there in every part of the world, especially for crimes such as child rape and murder. A large number of countries have abolished the death penalty, and almost all of them have witnessed a sharp increase in crime rate after that. A prime example is South Africa, now known as the crime capital of the world.

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I guess president will passed the death penalty because it seems that we need it in country. Criminals in our society is a huge problem and many of the criminals are not afraid in the law. It will maybe not deterrent but it will be very useful because the president called this law a RETRIBUTION.

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Quote from: severaldetails on July 08, 2016, 08:24:31 AM

Quote from: escrowboy on July 08, 2016, 02:34:21 AM

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Quote from: Jmild1 on July 08, 2016, 12:37:49 AM

Quote from: hermanhs09 on July 07, 2016, 06:21:30 PM

Quote from: groll on June 16, 2016, 06:56:39 PM

Death Penalty has been abolished in the Philippines a long time ago. And since, death penalty has been replaced by lifetime imprisonment. But at that time rape cases has increased , is it because of the abolition of death penalty? With this at hand the government on July 2016 is thinking of upholding death penalty by hanging to big time criminals. Will it be aproved or not? or will it decreased the crime rate in the Philippines?

Im not from Philippines,but i think death penalty is a very strong tool,and we actually need that tool.
I want that death penalty comes to our countries,to get rid of all heavy criminals,why someone who took life of each other people,can live?
It is simply not fair.Also that will stop people from murdering each other,when this kind of punishment will be possible.

Death penalty is a good solution IF the legal process is followed. But if the justice system in ones country is unfair then having death penalty is not recommended because it might be an abuse for other to accuse innocent people.

This guy from Philippines is clearly a complete maniac.
Of course he will put up the death penalty for as many crimes as possible.
From all I know he tolerated death squadrons in the time where he was principal of Davao City. Successfully as it seems, cause criminal statistics all went down.
Now he has the power to do that legally.

How can it be being maniac if he just states the possibility of a death peanaly that may used as disadvantage. Things need to go due process but if the process is not followed then an abuse to it will surely be a problem.

Give you a good example. I have hated a certain guy and I want to kill him but he's not a drug related person. So I will just shoot him dead and put a banner on his neck stating that he's a drug user. If the justice system in your country is fucked up then you will have no problem killing that guy.

I would like to call him a maniac, crazy or what ever because some of his statements.
For example, a woman was raped by a gang and he said: "She was so beautiful, the mayor should have been first."
He was the mayor at that time.
If that's not crazy I do not know what it is.

Yeah. There are some behavior of our President that I don't really like. Like making a dark humor in public, that wasn't be an act of a mayor towards other country. And that joke should not ever be made in public.

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Quote from: escrowboy on July 08, 2016, 02:34:21 AM

Quote from: severaldetails on July 08, 2016, 01:22:08 AM

Quote from: Jmild1 on July 08, 2016, 12:37:49 AM

Quote from: hermanhs09 on July 07, 2016, 06:21:30 PM

Quote from: groll on June 16, 2016, 06:56:39 PM

Death Penalty has been abolished in the Philippines a long time ago. And since, death penalty has been replaced by lifetime imprisonment. But at that time rape cases has increased , is it because of the abolition of death penalty? With this at hand the government on July 2016 is thinking of upholding death penalty by hanging to big time criminals. Will it be aproved or not? or will it decreased the crime rate in the Philippines?

Im not from Philippines,but i think death penalty is a very strong tool,and we actually need that tool.
I want that death penalty comes to our countries,to get rid of all heavy criminals,why someone who took life of each other people,can live?
It is simply not fair.Also that will stop people from murdering each other,when this kind of punishment will be possible.

Death penalty is a good solution IF the legal process is followed. But if the justice system in ones country is unfair then having death penalty is not recommended because it might be an abuse for other to accuse innocent people.

This guy from Philippines is clearly a complete maniac.
Of course he will put up the death penalty for as many crimes as possible.
From all I know he tolerated death squadrons in the time where he was principal of Davao City. Successfully as it seems, cause criminal statistics all went down.
Now he has the power to do that legally.

How can it be being maniac if he just states the possibility of a death peanaly that may used as disadvantage. Things need to go due process but if the process is not followed then an abuse to it will surely be a problem.

Give you a good example. I have hated a certain guy and I want to kill him but he's not a drug related person. So I will just shoot him dead and put a banner on his neck stating that he's a drug user. If the justice system in your country is fucked up then you will have no problem killing that guy.

I would like to call him a maniac, crazy or what ever because some of his statements.
For example, a woman was raped by a gang and he said: "She was so beautiful, the mayor should have been first."
He was the mayor at that time.
If that's not crazy I do not know what it is.

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Quote from: severaldetails on July 08, 2016, 01:22:08 AM

Quote from: Jmild1 on July 08, 2016, 12:37:49 AM

Quote from: hermanhs09 on July 07, 2016, 06:21:30 PM

Quote from: groll on June 16, 2016, 06:56:39 PM

Death Penalty has been abolished in the Philippines a long time ago. And since, death penalty has been replaced by lifetime imprisonment. But at that time rape cases has increased , is it because of the abolition of death penalty? With this at hand the government on July 2016 is thinking of upholding death penalty by hanging to big time criminals. Will it be aproved or not? or will it decreased the crime rate in the Philippines?

Im not from Philippines,but i think death penalty is a very strong tool,and we actually need that tool.
I want that death penalty comes to our countries,to get rid of all heavy criminals,why someone who took life of each other people,can live?
It is simply not fair.Also that will stop people from murdering each other,when this kind of punishment will be possible.

Death penalty is a good solution IF the legal process is followed. But if the justice system in ones country is unfair then having death penalty is not recommended because it might be an abuse for other to accuse innocent people.

This guy from Philippines is clearly a complete maniac.
Of course he will put up the death penalty for as many crimes as possible.
From all I know he tolerated death squadrons in the time where he was principal of Davao City. Successfully as it seems, cause criminal statistics all went down.
Now he has the power to do that legally.

How can it be being maniac if he just states the possibility of a death peanaly that may used as disadvantage. Things need to go due process but if the process is not followed then an abuse to it will surely be a problem.

Give you a good example. I have hated a certain guy and I want to kill him but he's not a drug related person. So I will just shoot him dead and put a banner on his neck stating that he's a drug user. If the justice system in your country is fucked up then you will have no problem killing that guy.

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Quote from: Jmild1 on July 08, 2016, 12:37:49 AM

Quote from: hermanhs09 on July 07, 2016, 06:21:30 PM

Quote from: groll on June 16, 2016, 06:56:39 PM

Death Penalty has been abolished in the Philippines a long time ago. And since, death penalty has been replaced by lifetime imprisonment. But at that time rape cases has increased , is it because of the abolition of death penalty? With this at hand the government on July 2016 is thinking of upholding death penalty by hanging to big time criminals. Will it be aproved or not? or will it decreased the crime rate in the Philippines?

Im not from Philippines,but i think death penalty is a very strong tool,and we actually need that tool.
I want that death penalty comes to our countries,to get rid of all heavy criminals,why someone who took life of each other people,can live?
It is simply not fair.Also that will stop people from murdering each other,when this kind of punishment will be possible.

Death penalty is a good solution IF the legal process is followed. But if the justice system in ones country is unfair then having death penalty is not recommended because it might be an abuse for other to accuse innocent people.

This guy from Philippines is clearly a complete maniac.
Of course he will put up the death penalty for as many crimes as possible.
From all I know he tolerated death squadrons in the time where he was principal of Davao City. Successfully as it seems, cause criminal statistics all went down.
Now he has the power to do that legally.

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may be yes, because the restoration of the death penalty is one of the priorities of the administration of Duterte, who anchored his campaign on maintaining peace and order the number of cases of extrajudicial killings, torture, and enforced disappearances by state security forces has declined in the last four years, such abuses regularly occur. They are fueled by the government’s lack of political will to end the longstanding impunity enjoyed by the police and armed forces, a dysfunctional criminal justice system, and military resistance to accountability.

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Quote from: hermanhs09 on July 07, 2016, 06:21:30 PM

Quote from: groll on June 16, 2016, 06:56:39 PM

Death Penalty has been abolished in the Philippines a long time ago. And since, death penalty has been replaced by lifetime imprisonment. But at that time rape cases has increased , is it because of the abolition of death penalty? With this at hand the government on July 2016 is thinking of upholding death penalty by hanging to big time criminals. Will it be aproved or not? or will it decreased the crime rate in the Philippines?

Im not from Philippines,but i think death penalty is a very strong tool,and we actually need that tool.
I want that death penalty comes to our countries,to get rid of all heavy criminals,why someone who took life of each other people,can live?
It is simply not fair.Also that will stop people from murdering each other,when this kind of punishment will be possible.

Death penalty is a good solution IF the legal process is followed. But if the justice system in ones country is unfair then having death penalty is not recommended because it might be an abuse for other to accuse innocent people.

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Quote from: groll on June 16, 2016, 06:56:39 PM

Death Penalty has been abolished in the Philippines a long time ago. And since, death penalty has been replaced by lifetime imprisonment. But at that time rape cases has increased , is it because of the abolition of death penalty? With this at hand the government on July 2016 is thinking of upholding death penalty by hanging to big time criminals. Will it be aproved or not? or will it decreased the crime rate in the Philippines?

Im not from Philippines,but i think death penalty is a very strong tool,and we actually need that tool.
I want that death penalty comes to our countries,to get rid of all heavy criminals,why someone who took life of each other people,can live?
It is simply not fair.Also that will stop people from murdering each other,when this kind of punishment will be possible.

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actually it seemed clear from his addresses during the residential campaign that he will support death penalty. but still after his presidential victory still there is no official announcement from government side.

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Quote from: Shinpako09 on June 23, 2016, 10:01:23 PM

Rich people will still used their money to justified their self. I dont think PH need that death penalty thing. President had a death squad to stop those criminals and i think thats enough.

What? How do you think those death squad know that what they killed is really a drug related person. It still not advisable because it doesn't go juridical process which what every accused need.

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Rich people will still used their money to justified their self. I dont think PH need that death penalty thing. President had a death squad to stop those criminals and i think thats enough.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on June 23, 2016, 12:11:05 AM

Death penalty if justice in the Philippines is fair or equal to everyone. Sadly justice in the Philippines is only favors those who can afford to pay good lawyers, but if you don't have money the government will assign a lawyer but not as good and smart as the expensive lawyers that corrupt politicians hire.

The argument that 1% of the criminals MAY BE able to escape from the punishment using their money power can't be used to eliminate the punishment for the remaining 99%. Rich people seldom face justice, and it is the case almost everywhere. But we should not use this argument to justify lenient sentencing for every single criminal.

Well I agree with you man. It's the way the world works in every country rich people seldom face justice. They could also direct the blame to a poor people who is innocent.

I think I have no personal comments on this. If anything what im only worried about is the judiciary system. If this president is able to clean this up and make it more strong, then I guess they can implement.

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on June 23, 2016, 02:05:22 AM

Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on June 23, 2016, 12:11:05 AM

Death penalty if justice in the Philippines is fair or equal to everyone. Sadly justice in the Philippines is only favors those who can afford to pay good lawyers, but if you don't have money the government will assign a lawyer but not as good and smart as the expensive lawyers that corrupt politicians hire.

The argument that 1% of the criminals MAY BE able to escape from the punishment using their money power can't be used to eliminate the punishment for the remaining 99%. Rich people seldom face justice, and it is the case almost everywhere. But we should not use this argument to justify lenient sentencing for every single criminal.

Well I agree with you man. It's the way the world works in every country rich people seldom face justice. They could also direct the blame to a poor people who is innocent.

That's I am against with death penalty because I know that juridical system in our country sucks. It will and there's will always be innocent people that will be sentence to death.

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Quote from: nydiacaskey01 on June 23, 2016, 12:11:05 AM

Death penalty if justice in the Philippines is fair or equal to everyone. Sadly justice in the Philippines is only favors those who can afford to pay good lawyers, but if you don't have money the government will assign a lawyer but not as good and smart as the expensive lawyers that corrupt politicians hire.

The argument that 1% of the criminals MAY BE able to escape from the punishment using their money power can't be used to eliminate the punishment for the remaining 99%. Rich people seldom face justice, and it is the case almost everywhere. But we should not use this argument to justify lenient sentencing for every single criminal.

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Death penalty if justice in the Philippines is fair or equal to everyone. Sadly justice in the Philippines is only favors those who can afford to pay good lawyers, but if you don't have money the government will assign a lawyer but not as good and smart as the expensive lawyers that corrupt politicians hire.

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Quote from: harizen on June 17, 2016, 10:34:21 AM

Quote from: carlisle1 on June 17, 2016, 09:59:09 AM

so many people in the Philippines are in favor to get the death penalty back in our country but are we that this will be a good decision ? what if the accused was just framed up or he was set up ? and what if one of the member of your family is in that case ? .

Like I stated in my previous post, it will be done in a due process and all judiciary officials are on hand with any cases. Kill on sight are only for brutal and most wanted.

Also about your last question, what if one of your family members experienced that horrible crime?

It's better that people are afraid to do horrible crimes since they know they will be punished.

You will never know the real score once you get into the actual situation.

You think thats what is happening!?
Duterte even encouraged people to kill a drug pusher if they know it is really a pusher and once they did they will be given medal, how did he know that he's really a drug pusher?
http://themaharlikan.info/news/75-year-old-famer-shot-dead-accused-of-peddling-drugs/ see the result?

You really don't know what's happening in our country.

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Quote from: Seansky on June 22, 2016, 06:34:39 AM

Well I also agree with death penalty being back. Those criminals won't learn to stop if death penalty will not be back. I also think that death penalty must be applied to corrupt politicians too.

Excellent suggestion. China tried the same with corrupt politicians a few years ago, and there was a sharp reduction in bribing across the sectors. There were some well publicized death sentences for large scale corruption, and this worked well in order to deter the politicians and bureaucrats from accepting bribes.

IMO, White collar crimes such as bribing and stealing of public money must be punished more severely than the other crimes. For example, when someone steals public money from the healthcare system, he is indirectly causing a large number of deaths by reducing the efficiency of the public hospitals and clinics.

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