Topic: Will Trump run again...and win?? - page 2. (Read 372 times)

This is part of the reason why I never blamed Trump for killing his geriatric consistency, as often he was accused of by the left. Is anyone truly under the notion that the complexity of an unknown virus with high transmissibility was handled with grace by any country? I look at the COVID death rates per capita by country, and I don't see any correlation between lockdown strategy and lower death rate. The response to COVID was in real time; there was no time for preparation.

For Trump, his reelection chances plummeted when the media held him personally responsible for killing hundreds of thousands of Americans. He seemed to be the only politician in the world held to that standard.

It depends on the effort to disqualify Trump with the January 6th Capitol riot case. If he's still eligible to run, I believe he has a good chance of winning the 2024 election. C'mon, who will be strong enough to oppose Trump? Biden won't run again because he's clearly unfit to be a president, and no popular Democrat candidate who comes into my mind. It's also unlucky that shit happens on Democrat's turn: inflation, gas price, etc., people will blame the current administration for the poor results.

I'd like to see Trump (P) with DeSantis (VP) for maximum entertainment.

I think the US hasn't had much luck with presidents lately, and Trump isn't a gift either, but compared to Biden, it looks like a very good option. I hope that the next US President will be a Republican, because under the Democrats, the country is flying at full speed into the abyss. Trump's "make America great again" slogan has a lot of good practical meaning for the US, it inspires and can unite people, and the internal division in society is now very large and this is a serious problem for the future of the US. Globalists screwed up and unable to admit it, I think the Democrats will desperately cling to power, not stopping at the dirtiest methods. With Trump (or another Republican president), the US has a future as a strong regional leader. With Biden (or another Democratic president), the US has no future at all.

I'd argue (and did at the time) that most countries were too late in locking down. Earlier, stricter lockdowns would likely have been shorter in duration, and cost fewer lives. But this pattern is reflected around the world, and says nothing particular about Trump. Politicians tend to be reactive rather than proactive with these things - if a precautionary action is going to cause economic damage, they won't act until it's absolutely necessary (and therefore too late).


Politicians have had to make a trade-off between economic damage and saving lives. Shorter lockdowns would have caused less economic damage, but cost more lives. I don't think we can separate the two and view the economic situation in isolation... lockdowns happened in order to save lives, and not for an economic reason. You can't say we should have opened up earlier, as if that would not have had consequences.


Yeah, I think Trump would win again. He certainly has his faults, but he's a fabulously skilled demagogue/agitator. Given recent events and particularly the Jan 6th stuff, he would find it extremely easy to position himself as the valiant outsider railing against the corrupt state. And yes, both Trump and Biden are really too old to be running the US from 2024, the idea of either of them being in charge up to the end of 2028 seems a bit ridiculous.


I don't trust most politicians. I think there's a considerable gap between what a politician says they think, and what they really think. If any POTUS faced with an unpalatable choice says "I don't want to do this, but I'm being forced into it" then I'd be sceptical.


Hey, thanks, I'm actually 9yo so I'm glad I'm coming across as more sensible and mature.

You sound more like a 10 year old crying libtards who takes everything from the CNN and swallow it hook line and sinker. Of course you still believe New York City will be under water in 10 years, and that the majority of America voted Biden with the highest number of votes ever recorded by any US President?

Trump is probably the best President America ever had. His biggest undoing was soroundihg himself with Obama holdovers and bad advisers. Letting Dr. Fauci to carry on unimpeded was a political suicide. And the Twitter stuff did more damage than good. Apart from that, he was easily one of the best President in the history of the USA. His second coming is surely going to be far better than the previous term.

Trump was saying things like, "We can't let the cure be worse than the problem itself." 

Biden was saying things like, "People will die, who have never died before."

Trump was being sued for mocking it and calling it the "China Virus."

Biden was sued by states for forcing his mandates on them.

Do you understand the argument yet?  Trump's administration was politically forced into taking action while Biden embraced the FUD of the pandemic and tried to force it on the rest of us.
 Trump wasn't the one trying to get half the country fired for not taking a vaccine...  It's pretty cut and dry for you to miss so badly with your take.

Yes, Trump was quite the moron for putting Dr. Fauci center stage and having him appear on every TV network for his 10 minutes of fame. In retrospect, Trump's biggest weakness is surrounding himself with incompetence and then getting upset when these people do irrevocable damage.

The 2 weeks to stop the spread turned into 30 days which morphed into over a year of restrictions. The difference being, Trump actively attempting to undo the damage that he had mostly caused while the pro-lockdown groups in liberal states did everything they could to continue lockdowns. Also, it goes without saying that the landscape of COVID was difference in March of 2020 during lockdowns when nothing was known about the virus. If it any prudent person were to view the totality of the circumstances, you have an unknown virus from an unverified origin, no known treatments, high transmissibility, and an under prepared healthcare system. Was Trump (or any other country for that matter) incorrect in their pro-lockdown presumption? Maybe not. But after a year, that presumption no longer exists. We knew a lot more.



Here is the CPI for the United States, last 5 years: https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi

Here is the PPI for the United States over the last year: https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_producer_price_index


CPI can be explained only by supply and demand. Increase the money supply, demand increases which will cause the consumer prices across all sectors to increase if the supply isn't able to be maintained. The COVID lockdowns/supply chain issues would cause price increases undoubtedly, but it would happen contemporaneous or at least proximate to the lockdowns, not magically increase when a new President was elected. The CPI began increasing sharply after Biden got elected, and then sharply increased when he got into office.

What policies would explain such inflation? Examine whatever policies would increase the money supply -- the so called "American Rescue Package," or about a trillion dollars in unnecessary spending. Extension of unemployment benefits to September, meaning workers could be paid more to work zero hours/week. This decreases the labor participating rate and raises the operating cost of small businesses that need to compete with the federal government's social welfare state. On top of this, there becomes the issue of democrats/liberals prolonging COVID restrictions and lockdowns in their own jurisdictions which caused many businesses to fail. Some red states opened up, to the scorn of the media, while blue states placed restrictions for much longer. And of course, you can't forget the stimulus checks issued out to something like 90 percent of the American population.

The inflation was on it's way up after Biden's election and before the so called "Putin Price Hike." USD was outpacing the inflation rate of most other developed countries before the Ukrainian war broke out, and USD is still outpacing most other countries with its inflation rate. It is no coincidence that Biden gets in office, starts spending more money that has ever existed, and inflation goes up.

By the way, Biden has desperately attempted to blame corporate greed and price gouging on the increased consumer prices. Completely debunked by the PPI charts over the last two years. The cost of producing goods for manufactures and wholesalers has increased because of the raw materials to produce goods went up. If this was price gouging on the consumer side of the transaction, you wouldn't see the PPI reaching 10 percent. Corporate greed does not explain inflation.


Trump will run again and he will win because he is a narcissistic man child. Republicans need to find a way to manage the neocons and the MAGA crowd because the MAGA crowd isn't sustainable.

Betting markets have Trump and DeSantis as the top two picks: https://www.predictit.org/markets/detail/7053/Who-will-win-the-2024-Republican-presidential-nomination

Ron DeSantis would demolish any candidate that democrat want to put up. And Trump is going to derail the Republicans' path to the Presidency because he can't control his ego. If he had remained even slightly restrained from Twitter in 2020, he would have beaten Joe Biden. He carries too much baggage. And unfortunately, he is going into 2024 and will ensure that the most qualified Republican candidate since Ronald Regan will not be President. Trump would be a better President than Biden, but he won't survive the media backlash after J6 if he were to win the primaries.

Imaging Trump vs. Biden would be quite entertaining though. Two geriatrics going for round 2, incredible!

I don't really understand this argument. Trump ordered Covid lockdowns, and this is no problem? But Biden over-reacted to Covid and shut down the economy, which is terrible?

The other point about Biden taking a flourishing economy and then destroying it with high inflation doesn't seem logical, either. Moments in time don't exist in isolation, they're dependent on what happened before. Inflation (which is happening all around the world, not just the US) isn't a consequence of sudden simultaneous terrible leaders everywhere, rather it's a consequence of global issues such as the Ukraine war and, yes, economic issues due to Covid. It would seem implausible to think that were Trump still leader, the US would not have high inflation.


Having said this, yes, I do think Trump will run again, and has a high likelihood of victory.

Indeed.  Biden took America from being energy independent to begging oil producers to increase production as we drain our reserves.  He took a flourishing economy and ran it into the ground with high inflation while Fed Governors resign their positions as a result of him not adhering to their warnings.  He overreacted to the flu, shutting down the economy and decimating small businesses.  There's no doubt he's the worst president of my lifetime, and he's got to already be top 5 worst presidents ever, maybe top 2. 

Will Trump run again?  Probably.  I don't think it matters too much who runs at this point though.  You'd have to be a braindead idiot to vote Democrat in any election for quite some time after this.  I just hope the country can survive the next two years so we can get someone in there to start fixing the mess that's being created.

You were born last year?

Really, no-one has been as bad as Biden? What about the president who wanted to cure Covid by getting people to inject themselves with disinfectant and expose their internal organs to the healing powers of sunshine? I forget which president it was who recommended this stuff, but it wasn't that long ago. Must have been Obama or Clinton or some other crazed Democrat, amirite?

Most likely in 2024 if Trump intends to run again as a presidential candidate he will be elected. Because even though in the Trump administration many absurd things have happened, they are not as bad as in the Biden administration. The Biden administration was terrible and I have never seen an American president this bad in my life.

I believe that all Democrats and a part of the Republican Party will continue to make an effort to prevent Bitcoin from entering politics again in the sense that it does not become a political opponent again.
This was a direct result of the Capitol incident after the results of Biden’s victory over Trump in the previous presidential elections appeared, in addition to many other criticisms that many political influencers think are not worthy of American democracy.

He may have the chance to run again for the presidency of USA, considering he succeded in building a sort of cult of personality among many Republican voters which could be translated in enough people voting for him during Republican Party inner elections.
On the other hand, he may want not to run for his second term and simply wish to take care of his businesses.

It's no news that ex president Donald Trump has his sights set on the presidential election. Although, with him still having legal troubles and whatnot, some where skeptic if he would still pay interest.
 Spending his time since his one year and half time out of office busy hosting rallies, endorsing members of his party, trying to shape it the way he wants, it looks like he's tired and getting bored and would look keen to play in the political field as he believes Biden is struggling under a load of disapprovals and inflation. Many believe that electing him will reunite and reignite the fire that seems to have quenched in the hearts of  despondent Democratic voters. What is your take on this?
 https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-teases-2024-presidential-run-at-conservative-conference