Will Vitalik flee the country after the Eth scheme implodes? - page 3.

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Is the graph supposed to scare us? Undecided

The sell was on higher volume than the volume used to raise it. Insiders cashing out at the top.

Also, Eth is currently undergoing 51% attack:

Exchanges would have to be insane to allow a 1 billion dollar asset with one pool controlling the entire thing to trade.

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Quote from: Ayers on March 14, 2016, 02:32:16 AM

i don't think he will abandon the ship , he need to maintain an imagine, that alone is worth more than the premined ethereum he is holding

Yup.. Look at BigVern.
He managed to supposedly "sell scripts" as Jim said to the Chinese to setup a Cryptsy clone.
All while heavy in the middle in what was crystal clear an insolvent exchange run by a lying scammer.
Or like me you believe he did the obvious and simply seen the gig was finally up
and decided to setup shop in China secretly but.. got caught making stupid mistakes.
Such as ? Being an idiot and leaving the words Cryptsy plastered all over the Chinese web site
or such as BigVern himself registering the Chinese domain under "Project Investors"

Image ?
Hmm who was it that said they were going to open a new exchange in China far before this ?
I will give you all a hint.. he likes "drifting with his Shelby" and was listed as the Cryptsy CTO + co-founder.

So uhmm anyway what is it exactly all you noobs spouting off (saying nothing tangible) think you know ?

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Quote from: Ayers on March 14, 2016, 02:32:16 AM

i don't think he will abandon the ship , he need to maintain an imagine, that alone is worth more than the premined ethereum he is holding

he eventually else file bankruptcy later. he'll have to pay more taxes, he isn't satoshi thats wise enough to remain anonymous. I wonder no one ever taught about that to him ever before, fame isn't a good thing for someone who has money. but then before that happen, he'll definitely shout abandon ship!

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Quote from: btcxyzzz on March 14, 2016, 03:01:39 AM

Quote from: r0ach on March 11, 2016, 10:39:27 AM

1) lack of fundamentals
2) artificially pumped bubble
3) anyone who holds alts during the coming BTC halving rise will be slaughtered anyway

What a sweet pile of delusional bullshit.

You have an IPO coin in your sig so any knowledgeable person about crypto already knows your viewpoint is bogus. No IPO coin is ever going anywhere. If Bitcoin was released as an IPO, it never would have made it an inch off the ground and nobody would have even heard of it. Perhaps you didn't see the word "currency" in cryptocurrency. Distribution matters and all IPO distribution is shit and will always be shit. PoW distribution lasts for decades, yet IPO distribution is done by the wave of a hand to enrich the currency issuer in a span of one second, it's a complete ~~joke~~ scam.

Let's not forget the fact that recursive, closed loop systems are by definition all permissioned ledgers and not anti-fragile, decentralized systems in the first place. As for Eth, even if you wanted a permissioned ledger, it isn't commercially viable and will never be commercially viable. Do you think a permissioned ledger has any possibility of competing with Bitcoin? Hell no. A world currency has to be robust against failure and these closed loop systems aren't. If one exchange gets robbed, the coin is dead for good. Bitcoin state recovery from failures is orders of magnitude in superiority.

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Quote from: btcxyzzz on March 14, 2016, 03:01:39 AM

What a sweet pile of delusional bullshit. ↓

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Overly harsh, but mostly accurate.

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Quote from: r0ach on March 11, 2016, 10:39:27 AM

1) lack of fundamentals
2) artificially pumped bubble
3) anyone who holds alts during the coming BTC halving rise will be slaughtered anyway

What a sweet pile of delusional bullshit.

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i don't think he will abandon the ship , he need to maintain an imagine, that alone is worth more than the premined ethereum he is holding

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Quote from: watashi-kokoto on March 12, 2016, 12:32:37 PM

Charismatic figures a.k.a leaders is one of the thing Bitcoin lacks and the masses need .

What evidence is there that Bitcoin needs that?

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Quote from: r0ach on March 13, 2016, 03:39:38 AM

Quote from: RoomBot on March 12, 2016, 09:38:40 PM

Re: Poll

I heard Vitalik speak in a distinguished panel at the DC Blockchain Summit, so I vote "None of the Above."

I hear they let Michael Milken and Bernie Madoff speak at distinguished panels too.

The 4 OP poll choices would probably not apply to them, so I believe you're making a different point.

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Quote from: tyz on March 13, 2016, 05:21:11 AM

Why should Vitalik flee from Switzerland where he currently lives Huh

There is actually no better country to be.

and that's the tell. no better country to be in when running the biggest web scam yet seen.

Marc Rich resided there too. LOL.

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Quote from: r0ach on March 11, 2016, 10:39:27 AM

When Mark Karpeles performed a magic trick and made $500 million dollars in investor money disappear, people showed up at his doorstep looking for him. Eth has now been pumped to this same amount of money in an artificial bubble by some type of VC or bank fund manager involvement. All evidence points to the fact that Eth can't function as a commercially viable product without partitioning, yet they have not solved the required problems, which are likely unsolvable, to make Eth function in such a partitioned system.

We now have the current reality of:

1) lack of fundamentals
2) artificially pumped bubble
3) anyone who holds alts during the coming BTC halving rise will be slaughtered anyway

This is a perfect storm to wipe out millions of dollars and it looks like Vitalik is on the verge of pulling the same magic trick as Karpeles in making $500 million dollars vaporize from sight. Due to the fact that most Eth speculators I've seen on the Bologniex casino have literally no idea how any cryptocurrency functions at all, the eth insiders might believe they're safe and don't have to run and can just string people along for eternity and say, "yea yea, we're working on it, we'll fix Eth someday."

Quoted for a discussion when halving happens, this one will be fun to revisit.

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Quote from: r0ach on March 13, 2016, 07:27:21 AM

Quote from: d57heinz on March 13, 2016, 07:21:06 AM

Yep all the more reason for satoshi to remain anon. Who are we going after with the pitch forks when he dumps.

Bitcoin actually works at a somewhat reasonable level. Eth can't function for it's claimed purpose yet they charged people millions with an IPO. Bitcoins are essentially free for anyone to go and pick up off the ground. Eth charged people money for a scam.

Well im not going to go back and forth over this.. The technology is open source.. IF you dont like this one or btc.. Then make your own or move to another one. These threads are counter productive.. How about if you think its so broken then tell them how to fix,, Contribute something instead of just hot air.. I have no trouble sending eth to and from whomever .,i can send accross borders, i can sell for fiat on exchanges.. So you tell me to the not to techy guy how this is any different.. Ohh i forgot the major one.. Btc is 10 to 30 min in line at a store while i wait for a conf. vs ethereum with 15 second conf.. At the speed of life we have to be at that level not the slow pace of btc.. I love btc in that it got us thinking about the establishment and their bad practices with money creation. What i ultimately hope is that we transition to a world of NO money.. Abundance for all . We have the technology to do it. We just have to go about it ourselves and break the grip from the establishment. Anyway im over this thread.. Try being productive instead of destructive.

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Quote from: d57heinz on March 13, 2016, 07:21:06 AM

Yep all the more reason for satoshi to remain anon. Who are we going after with the pitch forks when he dumps.

Bitcoin actually works at a somewhat reasonable level. Eth can't function for it's claimed purpose (because scalability is even more important for Eth than Bitcoin and Eth can't scale) yet they charged people millions with an IPO. Bitcoins are essentially free for anyone to go and pick up off the ground. Eth charged people money for a scam.

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Quote from: r0ach on March 13, 2016, 06:06:02 AM

Quote from: tyz on March 13, 2016, 05:21:11 AM

Why should Vitalik flee from Switzerland where he currently lives Huh

There is actually no better country to be.

Because angry mobs will go looking for him when you're responsible for creating a giant bubble where people lose millions of dollars in a giant flash crash from a coin that has 0 prospects of being commercially viable. All nodes have to verify all smart contracts. It can't be partitioned because:

1) they have no viable solution to do so and it's likely not possible

and

2) partitioning defeats the entire purpose of eth in the first place.

People claimed Doge was a scam, but no, Doge was just a BTC clone. It works perfectly fine. Ethereum does not actually work. It is a true scam coin.

Yep all the more reason for satoshi to remain anon. Who are we going after with the pitch forks when he dumps. Lmao. You all sound the fools. And those of you have a lot to learn about life and ponzi systems. The fact that mad off was convicted of this crime really is crazy since every system is a ponzi. I cant think of any systems that aren't afloat without being a ponzi. I guess planned obsolescence isn't a ponzi in disguise. You all have a lot to learn !

Sooner we all do away with money and live off the resources the better we all will be. Monetary systems are destined to fail.

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Quote from: r0ach on March 13, 2016, 03:39:38 AM

Quote from: RoomBot on March 12, 2016, 09:38:40 PM

Re: Poll

I heard Vitalik speak in a distinguished panel at the DC Blockchain Summit, so I vote "None of the Above."

I hear they let Michael Milken and Bernie Madoff speak at distinguished panels too.

Exactly.. and he's wearing an Orange jump suit.. NOW !

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Bernard Lawrence "Bernie" Madoff (/ˈmeɪdɒf/;[1] born April 29, 1938) is an American fraudster and a former stockbroker, investment advisor, and financier. He is the former non-executive chairman of the NASDAQ stock market,[2] and the admitted operator of a Ponzi scheme that is considered the largest financial fraud in U.S. history.[3]

Madoff founded the Wall Street firm Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities LLC in 1960, and was its chairman until his arrest on December 11, 2008

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Quote from: tyz on March 13, 2016, 05:21:11 AM

Why should Vitalik flee from Switzerland where he currently lives Huh

There is actually no better country to be.

Because angry mobs will go looking for him when you're responsible for creating a giant bubble where people lose millions of dollars in a giant flash crash from a coin that has 0 prospects of being commercially viable. All nodes have to verify all smart contracts. It can't be partitioned because:

1) they have no viable solution to do so and it's likely not possible

and

2) partitioning defeats the entire purpose of eth in the first place.

People claimed Doge was a scam, but no, Doge was just a BTC clone. It works perfectly fine. Ethereum does not actually work. It is a true scam coin.

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Why should Vitalik flee from Switzerland where he currently lives Huh

There is actually no better country to be.

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None of the above, you're just mad you aren't on the train. Cheesy

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