Will you be influenced by your favourite celebrity?

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Quote from: Rruchi man on October 16, 2022, 04:15:15 PM

Would you be influenced by your favourite Celebrity who you know gambles and one day happens to post the games he played, would you be influenced to play the same game?

I am bringing up this because a popular Canadian musician Drake posted the games he played today on Stake,

Many of his fans who are into gambling as well, may have played same game without thinking. As it turns out, the game did not go as predicted for him and his bet lost.

I would say that some of personalities such as celebrity, vlogger and etc. promoting some gambling site and it is really effective to persuade their fans or supporter to play online gambling. Personally, If I am a fan of celebrity who loves gambling, I will bet on gambling sites that same with the celebrity platform used to experience what he/she experienced.

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I generally agree with your comment. It is necessary not to follow them when they go out of their area of expertise, because this is also a very common logic error (appeal to authority). Nikola Tesla's speech in favor of the existence of god cannot be a proof of the existence of god. We should take such advice into consideration as much as we take into account the famous rappers who say the world is flat.

I think such posts are shared to advertise the platform more than match predictions. I don't think it's the right marketing method, but that's how things are done nowadays.

does their fame make us have to obey and believe with every word that comes out of their mouth, the answer is no

each of us have idols that even make us feel crazy about them but if they suggest to follow their every word especially when we want to bet or place the lottery then they are exploiting our minds

Sometimes, talking about things out of their area of expertise is just because of money, but in other cases they are so famous that, in the end, they end up believing that they are superior in all fields. When everyone around you flatters you, I think that this can happen.

In both cases, it is not reasonable to believe them. But the human brain likes to associate ideas, and when someone we like promotes another product (something or someone), we get blind and think that it is also appealing. Most effective techniques are the most simple.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 25, 2022, 05:46:02 PM

I'm not impressed by anyone when I gamble. Everyone gambles for himself. Yes, it would be ridiculous to follow his advice just because he is a famous person. Many shares are made on social media to advertise. That is why we should not act trusting anyone in serious matters such as gambling. Only if there is something that escapes my eyes, he will help me to see it.

That's good because it will only give us a loss. After all, if we lose, we lose our money while the celebrity still has the other money.
They can get money from sponsors to use for gambling and entice people to follow in their footsteps; we don't know the truth.
And maybe if they win or lose, they will still get paid by the sponsor so there is nothing to lose them.
We must be able to keep ourselves from being tempted by things like that and even if we want to gamble, we can gamble right away without having to follow anyone's steps and always control ourselves in gambling.

More precisely, do it according to what we are good at, it doesn't mean we don't want to learn, on the contrary, we have to learn first if we want to follow someone who is said to be a celebrity, influencer or whatever it's called. If we follow it just because we see big wins when they gamble then it is a wrong move in my opinion. We can be free to do anything but it must be remembered that we must be able to master it first. Now many offer demo accounts for us to learn, so get to know first before trying it.

a wrong move because most of the time they are just enticing their viewers and once you follow them you are going to lose your money, learn to do things according to your own knowledge, let those celebs to play on their own and you as well play with what you know and understand, the chance of winning is way better if you are just playing the type of game you fully understand.

You can use your knowledge while playing the game, giving you a good chance to win on your own instead of waiting for some luck
when your favorite celebs shared their picks.

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Gambling is simply a game made for fun, but it is quite possible that its main purpose has been abused due to the greed of the players to win. In my opinion there is no need for anyone to have to influence the choice in making a bet, it is completely meaningless because they are actually betting for themselves. I don't have favorites that can influence my choices, my choices because I and their choices are for them even though on paper the same.

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I generally agree with your comment. It is necessary not to follow them when they go out of their area of expertise, because this is also a very common logic error (appeal to authority). Nikola Tesla's speech in favor of the existence of god cannot be a proof of the existence of god. We should take such advice into consideration as much as we take into account the famous rappers who say the world is flat.

I think such posts are shared to advertise the platform more than match predictions. I don't think it's the right marketing method, but that's how things are done nowadays.

does their fame make us have to obey and believe with every word that comes out of their mouth, the answer is no

each of us have idols that even make us feel crazy about them but if they suggest to follow their every word especially when we want to bet or place the lottery then they are exploiting our minds

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 25, 2022, 05:46:02 PM

I'm not impressed by anyone when I gamble. Everyone gambles for himself. Yes, it would be ridiculous to follow his advice just because he is a famous person. Many shares are made on social media to advertise. That is why we should not act trusting anyone in serious matters such as gambling. Only if there is something that escapes my eyes, he will help me to see it.

That's good because it will only give us a loss. After all, if we lose, we lose our money while the celebrity still has the other money.
They can get money from sponsors to use for gambling and entice people to follow in their footsteps; we don't know the truth.
And maybe if they win or lose, they will still get paid by the sponsor so there is nothing to lose them.
We must be able to keep ourselves from being tempted by things like that and even if we want to gamble, we can gamble right away without having to follow anyone's steps and always control ourselves in gambling.

More precisely, do it according to what we are good at, it doesn't mean we don't want to learn, on the contrary, we have to learn first if we want to follow someone who is said to be a celebrity, influencer or whatever it's called. If we follow it just because we see big wins when they gamble then it is a wrong move in my opinion. We can be free to do anything but it must be remembered that we must be able to master it first. Now many offer demo accounts for us to learn, so get to know first before trying it.

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In other words, they are all a human being just like us, their social status in life doesn't mean that they will get the right path most of the times because they are also vulnerable as they are just a humans. If I were going to follow somebody, that would be the secret millionaires who worked hard to get what they have but that is a challenge because most of these millionaires aren't making such noises in any social platform as for them it'll be just a waste of time. As far as bets are concerned, I prefer to work on my own analysis and gather the data on my own.

I generally agree with your comment. It is necessary not to follow them when they go out of their area of expertise, because this is also a very common logic error (appeal to authority). Nikola Tesla's speech in favor of the existence of god cannot be a proof of the existence of god. We should take such advice into consideration as much as we take into account the famous rappers who say the world is flat. :) I think such posts are shared to advertise the platform more than match predictions. I don't think it's the right marketing method, but that's how things are done nowadays.

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Quote from: ChiBitCTy on October 25, 2022, 06:03:13 PM

I'm curious as for those who are impressed by a favorite celebrity, who is it and why is it impressive to you? When it comes to gambling I'll never be impressed or swooned by any celebrities, and I'd like to think this is probably the case for most everything across the board, but I'm guessing if I thought hard enough I could find some sort of product where a celebrity has impressed me enough to give it a try.

Differentiating products to services then there might really be some recognition whether it would be worth for you to deal with or simply skip out.When we do talk about gambling then it would be entirely

not that sensible nor worth on following or idolizing someone on what they are doing.Of course you would really get amazed on how they do bet and how they do won.This is where it do triggers out that kind of

interest or boost up on emotions that you would really be doing gambling too.This is why its really that important that you do really have that self awareness in towards
on whats happening around you.

there are crazy fans too and there are followers too. It all depends on the mindset of the fan.
I don't follow celebrities blindly - sometime I do admire them but at the end of the day when they are back home they too like to wear the loose trousers and relax like all of us want to.

In other words, they are all a human being just like us, their social status in life doesn't mean that they will get the right path most of the times because they are also vulnerable as they are just a humans. If I were going to follow somebody, that would be the secret millionaires who worked hard to get what they have but that is a challenge because most of these millionaires aren't making such noises in any social platform as for them it'll be just a waste of time. As far as bets are concerned, I prefer to work on my own analysis and gather the data on my own.

Even if he is famous, he may prefer to make money the easy way. First of all, no one can blame them for this. We are all free in our choices. Even if he is a celebrity that I love very much, I don't think he can influence me in this way. If there is someone to follow, these are people who have truly proven their success. Being famous nowadays is simple. A person who takes a camera in his hand can become famous and have many fans. Here, all responsibility belongs to the fan. He needs to know that no one will be perfect. As a result, I am not influenced by a celebrity I love, I just like what he does.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 25, 2022, 05:46:02 PM

I'm not impressed by anyone when I gamble. Everyone gambles for himself. Yes, it would be ridiculous to follow his advice just because he is a famous person. Many shares are made on social media to advertise. That is why we should not act like trusting anyone in serious matters such as gambling. Only if there is something that escapes my eyes, he will help me to see it.

Just imagine someone that got impressed with this bet slip just because of being a fan of the celebrity and went ahead to place a bet with all their savings following the same games selections as that of Drake, what will be their condition now because with the selected games displayed on the screenshot shared by ops it obvious he lost the bet.

Which is why in betting you don't need to copy anyone because of the predictability of football results so it is best you do your own personal analysis and select your odds the way it will favor you, for me, I could have gone for both teams to score for Barcelona vs Real Madrid and not a straight winning.

Some fan of the influencers wants to get ride with the same bet their idols because we know how they promote most of the big wins they bet is posted through their page and other platforms so their followers are getting courage to make the same bet as well so they can get a profit but of course not all the time the influencers have a good prediction regarding with the game so better or ideal to do is make your own bet in the game and background research which is the real deal to wage or not.

It really happens that fans are just straight up copying the influencer bet straight up. At that point, Casino and the influencer automatically win because someone were caught in their marketing strategy and achieve their own goal which is get someone to play. I also think that influencers are trying to do their best to make their betting choice win given that it might tarnish their reputation because of just showing their bet choice in the public. I believe that whenever you bet or gamble, It is your own responsibility on how you do it. Blaming someone because they share their insights or bets is just wrong for me. I don't see any wrong thing on sharing bets predictions and copying it. I personally copy some bets before and some of it came from social media influencers I followed.

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Quote from: Casdinyard on October 25, 2022, 06:04:05 PM

Celebrities are sponsored by product companies for a reason, because product endorsements of a notable personality whether it is from notoriety or honor works. Drake right here could be or could not be sponsored by Stake, but by all means it works so well, just the fact that we are talking about it is more than enough proof that it has broken grounds on multiple levels and is already a sentiment to how celebrity endorsements affect the laymen's way of thinking especially with stuff like best site to gamble on.

For famous celebrities, they really are effective product endorsers and that's why they worth a buck for these companies that would hire them just to mention, be partnered and give them the exposure that they need.

Quote from: Casdinyard on October 25, 2022, 06:04:05 PM

If my idol bets his money there you bet your bottom dollar I'm placing my bets there too.

And that's why they're doing it and very effective as their fans would follow their bets too and do the same.

I understand, either way, they are still humans who wanted to gain profits from that bets they made but we should still be careful though because we cannot forget the fact that these famous celebrities or influencers are endorsing the ones who signed their checks, they might pit us or lead us to losses. We should do our own analyzation first so that we can compare that probabilities.

Exactly mate once a site want to be famous as well then they hired some famous celebrities to introduce their sites or projects. But all of these are not good because we all know that celebrities will advertising project is the owner will pay them even though that what they are promoting is a scam projects because what other celebrities see is that the money they earn and not Thinking if their sites that promoted are legit or not.

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Quote from: Lanatsa on October 26, 2022, 06:53:55 PM

Quote from: ChiBitCTy on October 25, 2022, 06:03:13 PM

I'm curious as for those who are impressed by a favorite celebrity, who is it and why is it impressive to you? When it comes to gambling I'll never be impressed or swooned by any celebrities, and I'd like to think this is probably the case for most everything across the board, but I'm guessing if I thought hard enough I could find some sort of product where a celebrity has impressed me enough to give it a try.

Differentiating products to services then there might really be some recognition whether it would be worth for you to deal with or simply skip out.When we do talk about gambling then it would be entirely

not that sensible nor worth on following or idolizing someone on what they are doing.Of course you would really get amazed on how they do bet and how they do won.This is where it do triggers out that kind of

interest or boost up on emotions that you would really be doing gambling too.This is why its really that important that you do really have that self awareness in towards
on whats happening around you.

there are crazy fans too and there are followers too. It all depends on the mindset of the fan.
I don't follow celebrities blindly - sometime I do admire them but at the end of the day when they are back home they too like to wear the loose trousers and relax like all of us want to.

In other words, they are all a human being just like us, their social status in life doesn't mean that they will get the right path most of the times because they are also vulnerable as they are just a humans. If I were going to follow somebody, that would be the secret millionaires who worked hard to get what they have but that is a challenge because most of these millionaires aren't making such noises in any social platform as for them it'll be just a waste of time. As far as bets are concerned, I prefer to work on my own analysis and gather the data on my own.

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Quote from: Cookdata on October 25, 2022, 04:44:56 AM

Why do you think gambling businesses employ famous people as their brand ambassadors so frequently?? That is because they usually want to make an outreach to their fans and people who see them as role models, in fact, they sometimes don't have intentions toward gambling or may not be a fan of gambling but for the sake of bag, they do accept the deal and indirectly or directly they are promoting gambling and that is what Drake is doing with stake dot come even if I have known him to be a man of sport, for him to be trending on Twitter with stake banner has done the job they want him to do even though he lost the match to Real Madrid, that is the power of being a celebrity.

If we talk about influencers or famous celebrities who are always used as a marketing tool from the company's strategy.
it's very common and there's nothing wrong with that, thanks to working with a famous person or artist, every company gets the benefits they deserve, so does the artist.

considering the marketing strategy of using the services of artists is so common, so are gambling companies. inseparable from using the services of artists as their marketing tool to be widely accepted by various levels of society.
in this case, either he is doing a job posting it as an endorser influencer, or he is purely gambling. but for sure, he lost the bet.

IMO, without him being an influencer for one of the companies.anything related to it, will always attract the sympathy of its fans. unfortunately, in this case. looks like he's purely gambling, because if he's an endorser.
at least he would display a banner with victory after victory.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 25, 2022, 05:46:02 PM

I'm not impressed by anyone when I gamble. Everyone gambles for himself. Yes, it would be ridiculous to follow his advice just because he is a famous person. Many shares are made on social media to advertise. That is why we should not act like trusting anyone in serious matters such as gambling. Only if there is something that escapes my eyes, he will help me to see it.

Just imagine someone that got impressed with this bet slip just because of being a fan of the celebrity and went ahead to place a bet with all their savings following the same games selections as that of Drake, what will be their condition now because with the selected games displayed on the screenshot shared by ops it obvious he lost the bet.

Which is why in betting you don't need to copy anyone because of the predictability of football results so it is best you do your own personal analysis and select your odds the way it will favor you, for me, I could have gone for both teams to score for Barcelona vs Real Madrid and not a straight winning.

Some fan of the influencers wants to get ride with the same bet their idols because we know how they promote most of the big wins they bet is posted through their page and other platforms so their followers are getting courage to make the same bet as well so they can get a profit but of course not all the time the influencers have a good prediction regarding with the game so better or ideal to do is make your own bet in the game and background research which is the real deal to wage or not.

The major job of an influencer is to promote the brand and as they test the platform through their bets and if they fine them interesting and profiting they can also copy such influencer bet, but some countries have ban the use of celebrities as gambling influencers as that could aid under age gambling and avoiding addiction to gambling at young age.

But the for general visibility of the company, some celebrities still run promotion but those are strictly in stadiums 🏟️ i have seen quite a few of them.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 25, 2022, 05:46:02 PM

I'm not impressed by anyone when I gamble. Everyone gambles for himself. Yes, it would be ridiculous to follow his advice just because he is a famous person. Many shares are made on social media to advertise. That is why we should not act like trusting anyone in serious matters such as gambling. Only if there is something that escapes my eyes, he will help me to see it.

Just imagine someone that got impressed with this bet slip just because of being a fan of the celebrity and went ahead to place a bet with all their savings following the same games selections as that of Drake, what will be their condition now because with the selected games displayed on the screenshot shared by ops it obvious he lost the bet.

Which is why in betting you don't need to copy anyone because of the predictability of football results so it is best you do your own personal analysis and select your odds the way it will favor you, for me, I could have gone for both teams to score for Barcelona vs Real Madrid and not a straight winning.

Some fan of the influencers wants to get ride with the same bet their idols because we know how they promote most of the big wins they bet is posted through their page and other platforms so their followers are getting courage to make the same bet as well so they can get a profit but of course not all the time the influencers have a good prediction regarding with the game so better or ideal to do is make your own bet in the game and background research which is the real deal to wage or not.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 25, 2022, 05:46:02 PM

I'm not impressed by anyone when I gamble. Everyone gambles for himself. Yes, it would be ridiculous to follow his advice just because he is a famous person. Many shares are made on social media to advertise. That is why we should not act trusting anyone in serious matters such as gambling. Only if there is something that escapes my eyes, he will help me to see it.

That's good because it will only give us a loss. After all, if we lose, we lose our money while the celebrity still has the other money.
They can get money from sponsors to use for gambling and entice people to follow in their footsteps; we don't know the truth.
And maybe if they win or lose, they will still get paid by the sponsor so there is nothing to lose them.
We must be able to keep ourselves from being tempted by things like that and even if we want to gamble, we can gamble right away without having to follow anyone's steps and always control ourselves in gambling.

Another fact here, if we lose following those celebrities, we will be affected by the amount that we let go, while those celebrities, especially those who are affiliated with the casino, will just continue and still got a lot of money to enjoy. Don't let yourself being influenced by anyone but always be on the side where you are enjoying and might have a good chance to win some amount from your gambling activities.

And the number of defeats we experience will also be large, although compared to celebrities, it won't be as many as them.
And we will regret seeing the loss while the celebrities will be fine because they got their paycheck.
It's better we watch them play and enjoy it as an entertaining show and if we want to play gambling, set a limit and never exceed that limit.
Thus, we also get the pleasure of playing gambling like them by not crossing that limit and who knows, we will be luckier than them.

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Quote from: jossiel on October 26, 2022, 06:48:45 PM

Quote from: Casdinyard on October 25, 2022, 06:04:05 PM

Celebrities are sponsored by product companies for a reason, because product endorsements of a notable personality whether it is from notoriety or honor works. Drake right here could be or could not be sponsored by Stake, but by all means it works so well, just the fact that we are talking about it is more than enough proof that it has broken grounds on multiple levels and is already a sentiment to how celebrity endorsements affect the laymen's way of thinking especially with stuff like best site to gamble on.

For famous celebrities, they really are effective product endorsers and that's why they worth a buck for these companies that would hire them just to mention, be partnered and give them the exposure that they need.

Quote from: Casdinyard on October 25, 2022, 06:04:05 PM

If my idol bets his money there you bet your bottom dollar I'm placing my bets there too.

And that's why they're doing it and very effective as their fans would follow their bets too and do the same.

I understand, either way, they are still humans who wanted to gain profits from that bets they made but we should still be careful though because we cannot forget the fact that these famous celebrities or influencers are endorsing the ones who signed their checks, they might pit us or lead us to losses. We should do our own analyzation first so that we can compare that probabilities.

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Quote from: mirakal on October 26, 2022, 09:31:47 AM

That's right, I mean it is okay to idolize someone because of their status but as a gambler, we need to separate them from our reality because they aren't the ones who will suffer if we will get some losses along the way because we put our fate on their hands and surely they won't even benefit if we will win the same bet. They are just there trying to make an example from their status, we shouldn't let ourselves be fooled from what they are doing because we do have our won lives.

Be wise in making decisions, like what you mentioned. It's your money that you are staking, win or lose. They don't benefit from your bet, they will just continue doing their business whatever the outcome of their gambling activities. If you understand the game and you know that you know how to assess the games maybe you can compare just to see the basis if they shared some pick, but along the way it is your own decision making that should be followed and not the influenced of anyone.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 25, 2022, 05:46:02 PM

I'm not impressed by anyone when I gamble. Everyone gambles for himself. Yes, it would be ridiculous to follow his advice just because he is a famous person. Many shares are made on social media to advertise. That is why we should not act trusting anyone in serious matters such as gambling. Only if there is something that escapes my eyes, he will help me to see it.

That's good because it will only give us a loss. After all, if we lose, we lose our money while the celebrity still has the other money.
They can get money from sponsors to use for gambling and entice people to follow in their footsteps; we don't know the truth.
And maybe if they win or lose, they will still get paid by the sponsor so there is nothing to lose them.
We must be able to keep ourselves from being tempted by things like that and even if we want to gamble, we can gamble right away without having to follow anyone's steps and always control ourselves in gambling.

Another fact here, if we lose following those celebrities, we will be affected by the amount that we let go, while those celebrities, especially those who are affiliated with the casino, will just continue and still got a lot of money to enjoy. Don't let yourself being influenced by anyone but always be on the side where you are enjoying and might have a good chance to win some amount from your gambling activities.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 25, 2022, 05:46:02 PM

I'm not impressed by anyone when I gamble. Everyone gambles for himself. Yes, it would be ridiculous to follow his advice just because he is a famous person. Many shares are made on social media to advertise. That is why we should not act trusting anyone in serious matters such as gambling. Only if there is something that escapes my eyes, he will help me to see it.

That's good because it will only give us a loss. After all, if we lose, we lose our money while the celebrity still has the other money.
They can get money from sponsors to use for gambling and entice people to follow in their footsteps; we don't know the truth.
And maybe if they win or lose, they will still get paid by the sponsor so there is nothing to lose them.
We must be able to keep ourselves from being tempted by things like that and even if we want to gamble, we can gamble right away without having to follow anyone's steps and always control ourselves in gambling.

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Quote from: jakdanyel on October 25, 2022, 05:46:02 PM

I'm not impressed by anyone when I gamble. Everyone gambles for himself. Yes, it would be ridiculous to follow his advice just because he is a famous person. Many shares are made on social media to advertise. That is why we should not act like trusting anyone in serious matters such as gambling. Only if there is something that escapes my eyes, he will help me to see it.

Just imagine someone that got impressed with this bet slip just because of being a fan of the celebrity and went ahead to place a bet with all their savings following the same games selections as that of Drake, what will be their condition now because with the selected games displayed on the screenshot shared by ops it obvious he lost the bet.

Which is why in betting you don't need to copy anyone because of the predictability of football results so it is best you do your own personal analysis and select your odds the way it will favor you, for me, I could have gone for both teams to score for Barcelona vs Real Madrid and not a straight winning.

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