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Topic: Will you buy BTC from PayPal now that they are letting people do it? - page 5. (Read 1453 times)

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To see I am the only person on Bitcointalk  buying a piece via PayPal shows me that BTC adaption for the mainstream is far far far away.

I think you'd have much better results outside Bitcointalk tbh. A lot of people are hesitant to buy only because they would rather hold their own coins, something that probably isn't as prevalent for the mainstream. I would be very surprised if Paypal doesn't make bank from this. The fact that prices surged could indicate that lots of people think this is a good move.

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Basically because of the utter absurdity of its current design. Their decision to allow users to buy and sell Bitcoin and a few altcoins may be worth appreciating but other than that everything is just pure garbage. Which makes people think if there is even real Bitcoins involved.

So this is probably just the first step. I guess they're very much aware how they are now being heavily criticized by Bitcoin supporters. While the price seemed to react positively to their decision they must have heard loud and clear the legitimate negative opinions aired by members of the Bitcoin community.

I really hope so, though I remain skeptical. The community only thinks the design is absurd because we've been taught that "not your keys, not your coins", but Paypal is such a reputable brand that common folk, and maybe even some actual enthusiasts, won't mind. I absolutely agree that the design is horrible, but at the same time I could see it working especially once the fiat-settled payments are integrated. We have to keep in mind that there are a lot of people who are only invested for price movements, and I could see this being huge for them -- I mean, they'd be able to hold Bitcoin for speculation and at the same time, be able to spend on a whim where Paypal is accepted. If you don't care about holding your own coins, that's an incredibly sweet deal.
legendary
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You are not buying BTC on PayPal, you are buying a virtual BTC that you can only hodl or sell on their platform. The answer is easily no, I would rather use a proper exchange, especially since I have access to non-KYC exchanges, and withdraw coins to my wallet asap and be safe. Maybe this opportunity from PayPal will be more interesting for complete beginners or people who haven't tried crypto yet.
I'm thinking of trying buying some Bitcoins on Paypal and will transfer it to my Electrum wallet but when I saw this post from you, I said already "Now I will not buy on them, ever".

My main purpose of buying Bitcoins from Paypal is because I have an Paypal account and I can transfer my money there easily but the fact that you can't withdraw the Bitcoins is the one that I don't like. I will go for no with this. Yes it made the price of Bitcoin rise and that is a good news for short term but I doubt that there will be many Paypal users that will use this new feature of the app.
legendary
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I don't think Paypal will keep it this way for long, though.

What makes you believe so?

Basically because of the utter absurdity of its current design. Their decision to allow users to buy and sell Bitcoin and a few altcoins may be worth appreciating but other than that everything is just pure garbage. Which makes people think if there is even real Bitcoins involved.

So this is probably just the first step. I guess they're very much aware how they are now being heavily criticized by Bitcoin supporters. While the price seemed to react positively to their decision they must have heard loud and clear the legitimate negative opinions aired by members of the Bitcoin community.
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I haven't checked my paypal account and it's been a long time since I opened it. I don't know whether to get an offer or not. But I will pass it if paypal offers it, because my paypal account does not have the balance to buy bitcoin.
this is the way paypal is able to introduce bitcoin to its users. Of course it will also make more and more paypal users and more profits too.
Cryptocurrency adoption by PayPal has become a trending topic and is good news for cryptocurrency to be better known.

Maybe later I will try to buy bitcoin on paypal and try cryptocurrency payments on paypal.
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I'm curious if the bitcoin price is gonna be cheaper or much worst in their exchange. But I'm expecting high fees when it comes to buying on the Paypal platform. You could probably buy some bitcoin on the websites just for backup bitcoin in your Paypal account but for people who wanted a private key, this is not a good choice.  The thing here is all of the Paypal users are gonna know that you could buy bitcoin on the Paypal platform and with that, there is a chance that they might be interested to invest in bitcoin as well so that is a big help in bitcoin adaptation.
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I thought I wouldn't do that...
it is currently much cheaper for me to buy Bitcoin on Binance or my favorite local exchange and the fees charged for shipping are very standard. I am not an active PayPal user, I'm afraid the fees they charge are high when I want to transfer to other wallets.
legendary
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It's a hard "no" from me.  Now or ever.  They've been openly hostile towards Bitcoin from the offset.  There's certainly no reason to trust them now.  

They freeze or threaten to freeze their customers' accounts for using paypal to go anywhere near trading crypto and now think they can pull a full 180 and we're just going to forget about that and invite them in with open arms?

No chance.
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I haven't received an email of notice about the BTC news from PayPal. I still have doubts but if I get a chance to try it then I would grab and experience buying Bitcoin from my Paypal account since I'm also receiving my online payments through it. There's no harm in trying and it's still an advantage if we'll know if it would work well for us.
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buying bitcoin on PayPal is currently useless.
people use Paypal for payment, but you cant use bitcoin as a payment method in your Paypal.
you can only hold bitcoin with no private key in PayPal.
then, why people should use Paypal to buy bitcoin.

however, I vote for "maybe" and "I will wait and see".
but I still don't have any reason why and in which condition that I could possibly need to buy bitcoin from PayPal.
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Am I the only one who thinks this is bad news? As I understand it, you cannot withdraw Bitcoin from PayPal, so any money you send to them is lost to the Bitcoin community. A few years ago, I started predicting that bankers would be removing coins from the Bitcoin community to reduce its utility. This appears to be another attempt by bankers to mop up small Bitcoin holdings.
Do they not allow Bitcoin to be withdrawn from their wallets? That's too bad, can we keep the Bitcoins in our Paypal account without any taxes? They are losing Bitcoin's decentralization by not allowing people to withdraw their Bitcoins from the Paypal platform.
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Am I the only one who thinks this is bad news? As I understand it, you cannot withdraw Bitcoin from PayPal, so any money you send to them is lost to the Bitcoin community. A few years ago, I started predicting that bankers would be removing coins from the Bitcoin community to reduce its utility. This appears to be another attempt by bankers to mop up small Bitcoin holdings.

I also do not see the prospect of buying bitcoin through PayPal, as I will not be able to cash out or transfer to other PayPal accounts in the future. Also, I agree that this is not exactly rosy news because it contradicts the decentralization of Bitcoin. Transferring cryptocurrency through the centralized PayPal system is not very good and is incompatible with the whole element of the cryptocurrency market. Therefore, I think this news is partly bad for true crypto enthusiasts.
legendary
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As of now, no.
When they allow it to be moved it out to your own wallet. Mabye.
Depends on what / how they allow certain things.
3rd quarter Discover had the 5% cashback on PayPal purchases. If they allow that and their rates are fair, then yes.
Same thing with PayPal credit, can I get the 6 months / 12 months interest free financing when buying BTC? Same as above, if the rates are good then yes I will.

-Dave

I have an account with retailmenot. I get rebates which I cash to my PayPal account.

I used $20 of my latest $51.32 rebate.

I know on BTC we are 'cutting' edge so to speak.

But PayPal is an easy peasy way to adoption for more then 300 million people.

To see I am the only person on Bitcointalk  buying a piece via PayPal shows me that BTC adaption for the mainstream is far far far away.

I think I will keep the thread open for a while and post when I turn a retailmenot cash rebate to more BTC.

I am due for a rebate soon. Grin
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No, buying BTC from PayPal account will make someone not to have a good reward from the transaction. many people are complaining about the stress of purchasing BTC from PayPal at the end of the profit would not be enough for them to spend.
Many are not happy about what they got from PayPal reward which they invest so much money hoping the system will bring more profit. I have experience so many things during the pandemic that make me vow not to purchase BTC from PayPal  that caused me to lost all my money to scammer.
legendary
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As of now, no.
When they allow it to be moved it out to your own wallet. Mabye.
Depends on what / how they allow certain things.
3rd quarter Discover had the 5% cashback on PayPal purchases. If they allow that and their rates are fair, then yes.
Same thing with PayPal credit, can I get the 6 months / 12 months interest free financing when buying BTC? Same as above, if the rates are good then yes I will.

-Dave
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My answer would be a no because in my country, there is already an app that works the same as Paypal. It is also worth mentioning that Paypal is not as popular here in my country, plus their requirements for identification is a little difficult for an average Joe like me because the easiest identification is driver's license and it is not uncommon for people my age group to not have a driver's license the reason is that public transport is shite here but it is affordable than having cars and the paperwork that comes with owning a car.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
I don't think Paypal will keep it this way for long, though.

What makes you believe so? It seems even payments will be settled in fiat:

Cryptocurrency payments on PayPal will be settled using fiat currencies, such as the U.S. dollar, meaning merchants will not receive payments in virtual coins, the company said.

If they're actually planning to go this route, there won't be any movements in the blockchain; they give you an IOU you can play with, and since it doesn't seem like they even give you a BTC address, it might be designed to stay that way. Neither you nor the merchant will ever touch any actual BTC.

I mean, I guess it's kind of smart since it appeals to people who only want to hold BTC for its price movements, letting them speculate and spend with negligible fees. If I were a casual, I would absolutely gobble this up.

I feel a bit conflicted because on one hand, it has essentially nothing to do with Bitcoin, and could even harm real adoption in the long run. On the other hand, it's huge for establishing Bitcoin as a legitimate asset class.

Since 48.5% voted no in the poll I would guess there is a lot of disagreement on this.

So far 1 guy purchased and it was only 20 usd worth. (that would be me)

Only 1 guy of 29 people.  This what BTC is up against 1 of 29 tried it out so far.

There is some good in that.  1/29 x 346 million = 11.931 million.

So maybe there are now 20 x 11.931 = 238.621 million worth of btc on PayPal books.

Would be more encouraging if it were  6 of 29 votes.
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I don't use Paypal for a long time ago, maybe that is about more than 5 years, but I think I still have my account. Maybe later, I will try to login into my account, and I will check if I can buy crypto using my Paypal account. Hm, but I think people who use Paypal will not directly buy crypto from their Paypal account before they can learn or search for the cryptocurrency and how the cryptocurrency can give benefits to them.

Maybe that can give Paypal members a new experience to buy something directly from their account, but I suggest you learn more about how to secure your crypto on the Paypal account since it is a new thing on Paypal.

As many members voted, I also voted Maybe. But I think I don't want to buy crypto from Paypal because I am afraid that my account can get freeze by them, and once it freezes, it will need many documents to proves that we are the owner of that account. Besides that, people who worry about KYC will not use Paypal to buy crypto because they don't want to verify their Paypal account. They better use the exchanges which don't need to do KYC.
legendary
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I voted for NO and see Im not the only person (16 votes 50%.)

Im just curious why I never received this introduction email from Paypal as a person who has been using its services for many years now.

Wont be using Venmo as a Crypto wallet either when it becomes available.
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I don't really trust Paypal since they are notorious for freezing accounts without any noticed. They'll probably question where your Bitcoin came from and it's going to be an inconvenience in my opinion.

I have to agree with this, specially when there's a huge amount of transaction involved using cryptocurrency.
This is something that crypto enthusiast must be aware of before using their service. This news might sound good for us coming from a big company, but there might be some inconvenience ahead of it. Infact some users have already sighted a few things which will cause inconvenience for the users in the future.
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PayPal started to allow cryptocurrency on buying, selling, and shop with its network. It may be convenient for others to hold and buy bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies. But I will not buy bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies on PayPal because I have encountered issues in using PayPal a long ago upon receiving a transaction from a friend, and they didn't return my money. We may also not have any financial freedom with our bitcoins because they don't give and let you keep any private keys, so it is not secure to store your bitcoins with it.
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