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Topic: Will you continue using Bitcoin if an evil governement/organisation join in - page 2. (Read 2817 times)

zvs
legendary
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https://web.archive.org/web/*/nogleg.com
Let say that a country like Iran or Nk start using BTC to finance some of their activities or organization like "alqaida" ask ransom in BTC.

The US government killed way more people than Al Qaida and Iran and many people use USD...

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yeah man, i got really pissed about the whole cambodia thing.  the khmer rouge were just misunderstood is all


plus, al qaeda has this.  it doesnt drop bombs, but it does kick ass

legendary
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zvs
legendary
Activity: 1680
Merit: 1000
https://web.archive.org/web/*/nogleg.com
i considered it, probably for weeks, after wikileaks started accepting bitcoins





newbie
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Merit: 0
Hammers make a great murder weapon. Guess what, they also build a nice house.

You don't make my hammers grow in size(value) because you keep using yours.  Also there could be unlimited hammers in the world not 21m

Since I'm having trouble understanding what you are trying to convey, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess.

Are you suggesting that if a terror cell uses Bitcoin for their nefarious purposes, my bitcoins will be worth more, therefor I am benefiting from the actions of the terrorists?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window
I'm trying to see his meaning too, but there's a situation that closely relates to what he means.

HSBC is used by Columbian drug dealers to launder money. Are you going to stop using HSBC?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/01/us-hsbc-idUSBRE90002Q20130101

IT different. That money can be seized, once they detect it from a suspecious organisation. With BTC, it simply not possible.
legendary
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Merit: 1007
Actually I deem the actions or expressed views of a lot of people here on the forum worse than the ones expressed by the Iranis I know...

Why should I care if someone could potentially have owned my coins before me, whose views I don't agree with? I once saw a nice article about people who contributed to open source projects who have and had questionable views on the world (and even here, I doubt a lot of people would agree with the personal views of LukeJR for example). In the end money (and code) does not express anything, only the way it's used.
legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
Hammers make a great murder weapon. Guess what, they also build a nice house.

You don't make my hammers grow in size(value) because you keep using yours.  Also there could be unlimited hammers in the world not 21m

Since I'm having trouble understanding what you are trying to convey, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess.

Are you suggesting that if a terror cell uses Bitcoin for their nefarious purposes, my bitcoins will be worth more, therefor I am benefiting from the actions of the terrorists?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_broken_window
I'm trying to see his meaning too, but there's a situation that closely relates to what he means.

HSBC is used by Columbian drug dealers to launder money. Are you going to stop using HSBC?
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/01/us-hsbc-idUSBRE90002Q20130101
hero member
Activity: 812
Merit: 1000

What's up with people blaming tools for human action?

Hammers ... build a nice house.

hilarious irony

humans build nice houses. hammers don't Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1078
Merit: 1003
All the countries around the world are evil, if they don't use sound money.
So,yes.

This.

I see every "nation", even just the concept of a nation, as pure evil. And yet I still use their currency because for a large part I have to. This too gives something I see as pure evil credibility and therefore value that if I had a choice I wouldn't want to give it to. With Bitcoin at least they don't have the many powers that they can claim for themselves by force with their currency.
legendary
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Merit: 1016
Strength in numbers
Hammers make a great murder weapon. Guess what, they also build a nice house.

You don't make my hammers grow in size(value) because you keep using yours.  Also there could be unlimited hammers in the world not 21m

Nice, so are you against making hammers better because some people do bad things with them? 0 sense.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1004
bitcoin have the property to attract people waiting for a thing to build a better world with it. I dont get it why they think bitcoin is that thing their waited for.
hero member
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Merit: 500
All the countries around the world are evil, if they don't use sound money.
So,yes.
sr. member
Activity: 504
Merit: 250
Thats why Satoshi kept 1.5M. So he can crash the price if a bank or evil government (any of them) takes over Bitcoin.
legendary
Activity: 1232
Merit: 1001
No, I refuse to use any currency used for Evil purposes. that why I have gone back to use cowry shells only!

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In western Africa, shell money was usual legal tender up until the mid 19th century. Before the abolition of the slave trade, large shipments of cowry shells were sent to some of the English ports for reshipment to the slave coast.

Ohh, damn it.
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
The total opposite. If a  if a terror cell  use BTC, we are the one that give value to the BTC, so basically we making them richer. Also if they get arrested/bombed/killed. The coins in their wallet, will be gone forever from our system.
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
Hammers make a great murder weapon. Guess what, they also build a nice house.

You don't make my hammers grow in size(value) because you keep using yours.  Also there could be unlimited hammers in the world not 21m
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0

Oh..wait, that happens already, so did you cash out and left the USD system, or do you continue to support it?


USD is a paper currency that get printed on daily basis. While BTC are limited to 21m BTC.
So far BT is like an alternative to Paypal, credit cards and other payment system. 


legendary
Activity: 1288
Merit: 1227
Away on an extended break
Let say that a country like Iran or Nk start using USD to finance some of their activities or organization like "alqaida" ask ransom in USD.


Oh..wait, that happens already, so did you cash out and left the USD system, or do you continue to support it?


Lol. Great point. OP, what you asked does not make any sense at all.
legendary
Activity: 3676
Merit: 1495
Let say that a country like Iran or Nk start using USD to finance some of their activities or organization like "alqaida" ask ransom in USD.


Oh..wait, that happens already, so did you cash out and left the USD system, or do you continue to support it?
newbie
Activity: 25
Merit: 0
Let say that a country like Iran or Nk start using BTC to finance some of their activities or organization like "alqaida" ask ransom in BTC.

Will you continue to  support BT system or you will cash out and leave  ?
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