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Quote from: Queentoshi on November 01, 2022, 05:23:26 PM

What will be your advice to two friends who have just finished from college, one is considering furthering her education in the degree she has gotten from college, the other says she has learnt enough from school and rather than looking to further her education in the degree she has gotten from school, she is considering learning a good skill that she considers will be highly sort after. If it will cost roughly the same amount of money for the both of them to go with what they like and both choices are prospective, who would you advice to reconsider, and who would you encourage to continue?

It is always best to master what you have acquired if you are going to go on the path of career development. Having more specialization of your course will ensure you a better position while taking another course will give you lots of job options but won't assure you of a higher position especially if the competitor holds master's degree or PHD. Though further education can be taken in the later years, it is always better to have it early.

But of course, if the point of view and interest is taken into account, your friends must do whatever interests them. Taking learning of things without interest won't have the same effect as learning things that interest you most.

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We're living in a fast-paced society, and those lacking the necessary skills or failing to adapt to this new reality will fall behind in the job market or have trouble advancing their careers. Honestly, there's no direct way to answer the OP's question. It solely depends on the person. Personally, I've recently graduated from university with an economics degree, and now I'm participating in a master's in digital transformation. I want to constantly acquire new skills and knowledge whenever possible in order to further advance my career. In order to broaden your horizons, you may have to learn skills that aren't necessarily related to your college or university degree, such as website development, for instance.

Acquiring solely one skill after school, such as coding, may work for some, but it's generally a good idea to diversify, something that does happen in university, where they teach you a little bit of everything and you can choose where you want to specialize in the future.

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The question is why do we go to school and what is our arm of going through school?
Naturally we are going to school to get educated probably after finishing our study's to gain good job and live a good life right ?
Yes absolutely correct because after all degrees what we thought of is well paid job to start establishing ourselves and raise a family also have our kids. If the certificate she obtain is well okay with her maybe she can use it to acquire any forms of work that could give her a good earnings then she should focused on the skills after which she will be self employed and starts making her earnings through her business and skills.
So let whoever that wants to go school to attend and anyone who wants to learn skill should do but as friend you are to them just give them the usefulness of school and skills.

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I think any suggestions will ultimately refer to your friend's decision and comfort. There is nothing wrong with continuing education to a higher level. After all, knowledge can be found anywhere, whether formal or informal. As for if you look at the current state of technological sophistication, if your friend is diligent and tenacious, it is enough to learn it on the internet. But it is necessary to know how the workplace environment or some demands in carrying out a job. It could be that a high certificate is needed but skills that are not qualified will be in vain. Therefore, it needs to be considered properly, spending a lot of money if only to get a title but the output is still not being considered, then it's just a waste of money.

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I would advise both to stick to what they chose. If one is considering continuing his education, he should try it, and so should the other if he wants to learn a skill he enjoys. We don't know which is more prospective between the two, but we do know that both have their own choices, and we can only help them by giving them full support. As a friend, especially if it is a good friend, I will encourage both of them to do the best they can, especially regarding their future.

Who knows, each of them will have a bright future and can achieve what they aspire to. We must encourage them and give them encouragement and support because they are our friends.

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Quote from: monineklutak on November 03, 2022, 09:19:05 AM

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Quote from: Queentoshi on November 01, 2022, 05:23:26 PM

What will be your advice to two friends who have just finished from college, one is considering furthering her education in the degree she has gotten from college, the other says she has learnt enough from school and rather than looking to further her education in the degree she has gotten from school, she is considering learning a good skill that she considers will be highly sort after. If it will cost roughly the same amount of money for the both of them to go with what they like and both choices are prospective, who would you advice to reconsider, and who would you encourage to continue?

I far I realized after my graduation that both sides are needed in real life. You can not apply for a proper job without your certificate, and you will not get a good job without skills. Just be the master in any topic you are interested in and try to get a relevant degree along with your learning. You can get your degree with an online class if you do not have sufficient money for an institution.

We cannot close our eyes that degrees are still an important part and inevitably but that is the reality,
sometimes those who have a degree but they are not responsible for the title they get,
that's also important to have skills

A degree gives you the authenticity and trust that you have achieved something. It doesn't show your working experience or proficiency. That is why most of the working sectors focused on working experience. If you can prove you have done the work already somewhere, then your degree doesn't matter mostly. But still, it's relevant to our working sectors, and it gives you the privilege of ranking yourself among other workers.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on November 01, 2022, 05:23:26 PM

What will be your advice to two friends who have just finished from college, one is considering furthering her education in the degree she has gotten from college, the other says she has learnt enough from school and rather than looking to further her education in the degree she has gotten from school, she is considering learning a good skill that she considers will be highly sort after. If it will cost roughly the same amount of money for the both of them to go with what they like and both choices are prospective, who would you advice to reconsider, and who would you encourage to continue?

I far I realized after my graduation that both sides are needed in real life. You can not apply for a proper job without your certificate, and you will not get a good job without skills. Just be the master in any topic you are interested in and try to get a relevant degree along with your learning. You can get your degree with an online class if you do not have sufficient money for an institution.

We cannot close our eyes that degrees are still an important part and inevitably but that is the reality,
sometimes those who have a degree but they are not responsible for the title they get,
that's also important to have skills

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Quote from: Queentoshi on November 01, 2022, 05:23:26 PM

What will be your advice to two friends who have just finished from college, one is considering furthering her education in the degree she has gotten from college, the other says she has learnt enough from school and rather than looking to further her education in the degree she has gotten from school, she is considering learning a good skill that she considers will be highly sort after. If it will cost roughly the same amount of money for the both of them to go with what they like and both choices are prospective, who would you advice to reconsider, and who would you encourage to continue?

I far I realized after my graduation that both sides are needed in real life. You can not apply for a proper job without your certificate, and you will not get a good job without skills. Just be the master in any topic you are interested in and try to get a relevant degree along with your learning. You can get your degree with an online class if you do not have sufficient money for an institution.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on November 01, 2022, 05:23:26 PM

What will be your advice to two friends who have just finished from college, one is considering furthering her education in the degree she has gotten from college, the other says she has learnt enough from school and rather than looking to further her education in the degree she has gotten from school, she is considering learning a good skill that she considers will be highly sort after. If it will cost roughly the same amount of money for the both of them to go with what they like and both choices are prospective, who would you advice to reconsider, and who would you encourage to continue?

Doesn't it depend on a future job and on the area? In my country, obtaining higher education isn't hard and isn't expensive, but at least having a Bachelor's degree is something that is strongly expected for the vast majority of intellect-related jobs. The particular area you got your degree in doesn't matter, and neither do your marks, normally. But having a degree is desirable even if you want a pretty generic job like a community manager, SMM, etc. That's because if you went through higher education, it's assumed that you learned to self-organize, you know how to manage your time, and you have a flexible brain, which can help you pick up new things and adapt to new conditions. So if 'college' is basically high school or a bit more, I'd go for Bachelors. After Bachelor's, it's okay not to do Master's unless you want an academic career.

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Both parties and decisions are correct and neither of them should advise the other to stop what they want to pursue. Both will be able to go through life whether they want to further their degree and/or further their skills thru other ways such as certifications.

This could also be compared to those who were not able to go through college and those who does. Street smart and book smart are different but none of them are wrong. I myself, am satisfied with what I've learned in school and want to have working experience as well as get some certification to further my career.

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I don't see OP's scenario as any kind of dilemma--if the second person's degree has allowed her to earn a decent living, why bother going back to school (unless more education=more money)?

If you can afford to further your education and feel a strong desire to do so, that's a personal choice. But man, tuition at colleges has exploded in the past 10-15 years, and right now it's at the point where if you don't study something that essentially guarantees you a job when you graduate, it would be a better choice financially to just enter the work force instead. So many young people go to college and major in things like psychology, sociology, and other general subjects that are practically worthless on your resume.

If I could go back and do college all over again, I think I would study computer science or engineering. Both things interest me in the present day, but there's no way in hell I'm going back to school now. Ugh.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on November 01, 2022, 05:23:26 PM

What will be your advice to two friends who have just finished from college, one is considering furthering her education in the degree she has gotten from college, the other says she has learnt enough from school and rather than looking to further her education in the degree she has gotten from school, she is considering learning a good skill that she considers will be highly sort after. If it will cost roughly the same amount of money for the both of them to go with what they like and both choices are prospective, who would you advice to reconsider, and who would you encourage to continue?

Why not do both? I think not all times we are at school but we have off days too like on what we have when we are working. We can always learn a new skill during those days. If two of your friend just finished college then congrats. That means they are now ready to face the world or the real challenge in life and that is by working although it is still possible for them to find a job even without finishing a college but that is not recommended though.

Hunting jobs is going to be more difficult that way if you are a person with no skill or only have a less knowledge. Learning a skill doesn't cost money but furthering an education in school does but the decision will depend on them, I can't really tell if who is right or wrong between them.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on November 01, 2022, 05:23:26 PM

What will be your advice to two friends who have just finished from college, one is considering furthering her education in the degree she has gotten from college, the other says she has learnt enough from school and rather than looking to further her education in the degree she has gotten from school, she is considering learning a good skill that she considers will be highly sort after. If it will cost roughly the same amount of money for the both of them to go with what they like and both choices are prospective, who would you advice to reconsider, and who would you encourage to continue?

the decision of your two friends is not wrong,
the most important thing is that it comes from your own desires and from your heart.

because every desire or goal that is based on the heart and is liked, it will be better.

because in my place there is also something like that,
some continue their education to college, some pursue and deepen their skills.
after I noticed that both are equally successful.

so the point must be from the desire of yourself and from the heart.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on November 01, 2022, 05:23:26 PM

What will be your advice to two friends who have just finished from college, one is considering furthering her education in the degree she has gotten from college, the other says she has learnt enough from school and rather than looking to further her education in the degree she has gotten from school, she is considering learning a good skill that she considers will be highly sort after. If it will cost roughly the same amount of money for the both of them to go with what they like and both choices are prospective, who would you advice to reconsider, and who would you encourage to continue?

At the long run both of your friends are likely to succeed and and also fail due to lack of commitment and determination in what they want to do. The first friend who considered furthering his or her career isn't really bad, it is a good move from anyone but how well will they get a job and the payment they desire from that job.
Getting a high paid job is vital, so you can save a lot of money to start small business that gives you daily returns.
Skills are worth it, Online skill, and also physical skill, she can learn as many as she likes if she has the energy, for it is wise to perfect a skill and then move to perfect another one. In the recent world, you need to have a skill or small business to back your college degree esle

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Quote from: Queentoshi on November 01, 2022, 05:23:26 PM

What will be your advice to two friends who have just finished from college, one is considering furthering her education in the degree she has gotten from college, the other says she has learnt enough from school and rather than looking to further her education in the degree she has gotten from school, she is considering learning a good skill that she considers will be highly sort after. If it will cost roughly the same amount of money for the both of them to go with what they like and both choices are prospective, who would you advice to reconsider, and who would you encourage to continue?

Depending on the field your two friends specialize the answer could change, there are some fields in which you need a master degree just to get yourself any chance of competing for a job, in which case someone in that field will need to further their education, however there are other fields in which you can go for a certification instead and get way more money than to go back to school, then as you can see there is not an absolute answer to your question.

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Improving ourselves always gives us an advantage everywhere. For example, it seems like there is not much difference between a normal engineer and a graduate engineer, but there is.
The point is that you can also improve yourself in the field you study. You can also turn to another field as an extra. If you can or want to use yourself in many ways, it may be better to learn a few things on different things in this sense.

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It would depend on what he would do afterward. He should have had various plans after graduation, whether to continue school or not. We in this group don't really understand his condition and what he really wants. If he himself was still confused, then it would be better to rethink the good and the bad.
If indeed he has a goal and it requires a higher degree, then he may need to continue to a higher level. Besides, can't he upgrade his skills as well, right? Even though this is a bit of a hassle, it can still be managed. However, if he doesn't have a definite goal after continuing the course, why would he do it? Wouldn't it be better to save money for other things? So, this will depend on what goals he actually wants in the future.

I can't say if continuing is better, or upgrading knowledge and skills is better. Because I'm not in his position and I don't know what his real goal is.

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It depends on whether your friends would like to work in the field that their college education prepared them for.
If I spend 3 years studying to be a lawyer and liked it, I'd continue in the same field for another few years and try to become better, but if my dream was to be a mechanic, I'd go and learn that.
What you learn should first and foremost be what you really like, not what you can find a job at. If you work in a place that you hate it's going to destroy you. It's much better to do a job that requires not much skill like mowing lawns but study what you love in the meantime than get a well paid job that you hate.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on November 01, 2022, 05:23:26 PM

What will be your advice to two friends who have just finished from college, one is considering furthering her education in the degree she has gotten from college, the other says she has learnt enough from school and rather than looking to further her education in the degree she has gotten from school, she is considering learning a good skill that she considers will be highly sort after. If it will cost roughly the same amount of money for the both of them to go with what they like and both choices are prospective, who would you advice to reconsider, and who would you encourage to continue?

It's really hard to answer though: but from what I have learn from my parents, and this is there advise,

"invest in yourself"

So it means you should go to college and learn things theoretically and then learn form life experiences. Easy choice for me, here, just to go to school. And if you have something, then no one can take that away from you.

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Quote from: Queentoshi on November 01, 2022, 05:23:26 PM

What will be your advice to two friends who have just finished from college, one is considering furthering her education in the degree she has gotten from college, the other says she has learnt enough from school and rather than looking to further her education in the degree she has gotten from school, she is considering learning a good skill that she considers will be highly sort after. If it will cost roughly the same amount of money for the both of them to go with what they like and both choices are prospective, who would you advice to reconsider, and who would you encourage to continue?

Learning a skill is better after her college program companies are searching for skill based employees especially programming skill jobs which is one of the most sought after job globally, once she acquires any of those skills coupled with her college certificate she would be gainfully employed within the shortest period of time starting from an Intern to a Junior developer before becoming an expert which comes with time and experience, though furthering her education might afford her the opportunity to become a lecturer or other post graduate based career, however the opportunities in former option outweigh that of the latter.

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