Windows 10 1709, AMD Drivers, and Afterburner

Dima05

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Quote from: cgchris99 on January 04, 2018, 09:44:50 PM

I don't know if the UI problems above were, Start button, cortana and task bar not functioning properly but..

I did multiple fresh installs of windows last weekend trying to figure this out. After the DDU, I would usually end up with the start button not working along with cortana and some of the task bar features. I found a solution for this.

1- Right click on start menu and click on Run. "For those who the start menu does not respond with right click, right click on taskbar - click on Task Manager - from File menu on the left upper corner select Run new task".
2-White the command regedit and click Enter.
3- Go to path [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\WpnUserService].
4-Double click on Start from the right side.
5-Change the value data to 4 then OK.
6-Reboot

Now my start button, cortana and task bar work as they should.

Ended up with 1709 updated before turning off windows update. DDU and installed Beta Blockchain Aug23rd and MSI afterburner Beta 16 (maybe 19).

Maybe this will help someone else.

Thank you kind man.
I'm already tired with this problem.
I checked myself and a miracle, it works as it should!

But I can not solve 13 cards.
I tried to remove the driver for a few.
It seemed to be, but NO. to 11-12-13 there is no access!

androstan1234

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Quote from: nin3tin on January 04, 2018, 06:43:20 PM

im using 1709 with blockchain driver and also using 4.4.2 msi afterburner and having no problem

Same here. I had the exact issues OP describes. I gave up and just use aug23 blockchain driver. I also have w1709. Works perfectly.

Vann

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If you are on Windows 10 v1709 you should use the latest AMD Adrenaline drivers. I'm running the latest v18.2.2 driver with 13 cards and 7 card rigs. I set the overlcocks/undervolt fan speeds with Claymore v11 without problems and it's very stable.

lissacoffey

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I've seen several people out there indicate they are running this W10 build and these same drivers on rigs with success.You can set temperature, fan control and also set the overclock, powerlimit and voltages directly in the miner command line or config file.

http://driverrestore.com/amd-graphics-driver-windows-10-download/
NOTE:
This driver is not intended for use on AMD Radeon products running in Apple Boot Camp platforms. Users of these platforms should contact their system manufacturer for driver support.

When installing Radeon Software Adrenalin Edition 17.12.2 for the Windows® operating system, the user must be logged on as Administrator, or have Administrator rights to complete the installation of Radeon Software Adrenalin Edition 17.12.2.

Radeon Software Adrenalin Edition 17.12.2 requires Windows 7 Service Pack 1 to be installed.

Tuner77

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Quote from: cgchris99 on January 04, 2018, 09:44:50 PM

I don't know if the UI problems above were, Start button, cortana and task bar not functioning properly but..

I did multiple fresh installs of windows last weekend trying to figure this out. After the DDU, I would usually end up with the start button not working along with cortana and some of the task bar features. I found a solution for this.

1- Right click on start menu and click on Run. "For those who the start menu does not respond with right click, right click on taskbar - click on Task Manager - from File menu on the left upper corner select Run new task".
2-White the command regedit and click Enter.
3- Go to path [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\WpnUserService].
4-Double click on Start from the right side.
5-Change the value data to 4 then OK.
6-Reboot

Now my start button, cortana and task bar work as they should.

Ended up with 1709 updated before turning off windows update. DDU and installed Beta Blockchain Aug23rd and MSI afterburner Beta 16 (maybe 19).

Maybe this will help someone else.

Thanks for the possible UI fix. I keep getting periodic crashes on my rigs after 1709 with Aug blockchain drivers and custom bioses that worked fine with 1703. I've just been living with UI issue since it's still functional for mining and I don't game or do anything on headless mining rigs.

I really don't want to downgrade to 1703 since I'll likely have to go back to 1709 soon enough. I wish AMD would just do another blockchain driver but I doubt it. I also don't want to stop using custom bioses for overclock, undervolt, and straps. It's so much simpler than relying on the occasionally buggy claymore miner to do those settings and/or afterburner. But even with the latest AMD drivers I couldn't get 1709 to work because some cards wouldn't stick when I changed the the setting to compute. It was a mixed 580/570 system, and only the 580 would stick.

It's interesting Vann says he got everything working with no problem on all 580 or all 570 systems. I'll have to try again since I'm on 1709 with blockchain drivers but every day or two a rig goes down for no apparent reason.

I usually disable all services that allow updating, but periodically update when major win releases come out. Never again. This time was a shit show.

cgchris99

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I don't know if the UI problems above were, Start button, cortana and task bar not functioning properly but..

I did multiple fresh installs of windows last weekend trying to figure this out. After the DDU, I would usually end up with the start button not working along with cortana and some of the task bar features. I found a solution for this.

1- Right click on start menu and click on Run. "For those who the start menu does not respond with right click, right click on taskbar - click on Task Manager - from File menu on the left upper corner select Run new task".
2-White the command regedit and click Enter.
3- Go to path [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\WpnUserService].
4-Double click on Start from the right side.
5-Change the value data to 4 then OK.
6-Reboot

Now my start button, cortana and task bar work as they should.

Ended up with 1709 updated before turning off windows update. DDU and installed Beta Blockchain Aug23rd and MSI afterburner Beta 16 (maybe 19).

Maybe this will help someone else.

john1010

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Quote from: Vann on January 04, 2018, 05:33:00 PM

Here are my fan control, overclock and undervolt settings for my 13 card mixed RX 580 13 card rig dual mining. You have to find out the settings for each of your cards.

Code:

-tstop 76
-tt -34,-49,-42,-35,-23,-6,-19,-33,-44,-21,-20,-25,-10
-cclock 1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200
-mclock 1950,1950,1950,2220,2050,2075,2050,2075,2220,2250,2050,2250,2075
-powlim 0,-15,-15,-15,-15,-15,-15,-5,-5,-15,-15,-15,-15
-cvddc 1050,950,950,850,850,850,850,900,900,850,850,850,900
-mvddc 1050,950,950,850,850,850,850,900,900,850,850,850,900

RX 570's can't handle as much of an undervolt compared to RX 580's.

Code:

-tstop 76
-tt -77,-69,-52,-19,-20,-64
-cclock 1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200
-mclock 2075,2075,2050,2075,2020,2075
-powlim -15,-15,-5,-15,-5,-10
-cvddc 925,925,925,950,950,925
-mvddc 925,925,925,950,950,925

Thanks for this one I have a hard time to configure my 10 480 and 570 with my ASUS B250 mining expert, I hope this one could less my headache, currently I will downloading the driver and doing some cleanup, will feedback if this method will solve my problem..

Cheers!!

Vann

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The Windows 10 v1709 Fall Creators Update a major Windows update, especially since it added the capability to run 13+ GPU's of the same type, instead of just 8. The AMD blockchain driver came out before the v1709 Fall Creators Update and was not designed or tested to be compatible with that build. In fact I remember at the time AMD had to release new Crimson Relive drivers that were compatible with the Fall Creators Update and the new compute mode instead of the blockchain driver for compute workloads.

https://www.guru3d.com/files-details/radeon-software-crimson-relive-fall-creators-update-beta-driver-download.html

In any case, since it wasen't designed to run with those drivers, you don't gain anything from running the blockchain driver with v1709 and more than likely, it will cause issues. You are better off with v1703 if you want to run the AMD blockchain drivers. When I tried running the blockchain drivers with v1709 it created all sorts of UI and taskbar lockups.

nin3tin

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im using 1709 with blockchain driver and also using 4.4.2 msi afterburner and having no problem

h2gvaka

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This helps a lot. Cheers man!

Vann

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Here are my fan control, overclock and undervolt settings for my 13 card mixed RX 580 13 card rig dual mining. You have to find out the settings for each of your cards.

Code:

-tstop 76
-tt -34,-49,-42,-35,-23,-6,-19,-33,-44,-21,-20,-25,-10
-cclock 1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200
-mclock 1950,1950,1950,2220,2050,2075,2050,2075,2220,2250,2050,2250,2075
-powlim 0,-15,-15,-15,-15,-15,-15,-5,-5,-15,-15,-15,-15
-cvddc 1050,950,950,850,850,850,850,900,900,850,850,850,900
-mvddc 1050,950,950,850,850,850,850,900,900,850,850,850,900

RX 570's can't handle as much of an undervolt compared to RX 580's.

Code:

-tstop 76
-tt -77,-69,-52,-19,-20,-64
-cclock 1200,1200,1200,1200,1200,1200
-mclock 2075,2075,2050,2075,2020,2075
-powlim -15,-15,-5,-15,-5,-10
-cvddc 925,925,925,950,950,925
-mvddc 925,925,925,950,950,925

h2gvaka

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Quote from: Vann on January 04, 2018, 05:09:36 PM

The latest AMD Adrenaline 17.12.2 drivers in compute mode are working with Claymore v10.3. You can set temperature, fan control and also set the overclock, powerlimit and voltages directly in the miner command line or config file. Works great with my ASRock H110 Pro BTC+ 13 card build.

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-Edition-17.12.2-Release-Notes.aspx

If you want to use Afterburner, you need to use the AMD Aug. 23rd blockchain drivers on Windows 10 v1703 and you are limited to a max of 8 AMD cards.

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-Edition-Beta-for-Blockchain-Compute-Release-Notes.aspx

Thanks man, literally trying that now. Can you OC in Drivers? Or do you have a template for OC-ing in Claymore's config file to share?

Vann

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The latest AMD Adrenaline 17.12.2 drivers in compute mode are working with Claymore v10.3. You can set temperature, fan control and also set the overclock, powerlimit and voltages directly in the miner command line or config file. Works great with my ASRock H110 Pro BTC+ 13 card build.

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Adrenalin-Edition-17.12.2-Release-Notes.aspx

If you want to use Afterburner, you need to use the AMD Aug. 23rd blockchain drivers on Windows 10 v1703 and you are limited to a max of 8 AMD cards.

https://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Radeon-Software-Crimson-ReLive-Edition-Beta-for-Blockchain-Compute-Release-Notes.aspx

h2gvaka

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Quote from: Eyedol-X on December 17, 2017, 08:53:25 AM

So does anyone have any tips or tricks on how to get the blockchain driver working on 1709?

Looks like not?

Eyedol-X

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So does anyone have any tips or tricks on how to get the blockchain driver working on 1709?

tifoz_a

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Quote from: Souran on December 02, 2017, 12:57:15 PM

Im using the latest version with latest AMD Drivers.

12x RX 570 running fine, had the same issue with afterburner.
Sapphire STRIXX works fine, but i hate it.

I ended up undervolting and overclocking through the bios directly, and honestly it works better than afterburner

can you show me instruction how overclock memory clock and downclock gpu clock?

and without adterburner how you change fan speed?

and how I can undervolt?

I Have 11X MSI RX 570 4 gb

Asrock h110 pro btc+

Eyedol-X

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I have several 7 GPU Nvidia rigs on 1709 using whatever the latest drivers are, no issues with any of them.

Only major issues I find right now with 1709 are on AMD side which I must say is "typical" for AMD to have driver problems.

Sadly I don't want to mess with reverting to 1703 on my AMD rigs so I'm working through the pain right now, I hope Afterburner updates because Trixx works but it really does suck.

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Blockchain Evangelist.

Quote from: Vann on December 02, 2017, 01:26:26 PM

Quote from: Eyedol-X on December 02, 2017, 01:22:36 PM

Has anyone tried one of the previous 4.4 beta versions? Do any of them work?

No, none of the Afterburner versions work with the Crimson Relive 17.1x.x drivers on Windows 10 v1709. The blockchain drivers work with v1709 and Afterbuner, but it causes the Windows UI to become unresponsive, so I rolled back to the blockchain drivers on v1703 and it's working fine.

I faced the same problem. Afterburner was hanged whenever I clicked on it. But with Window 10 ver.1709 and Nvidia latest driver, it's working fine.

Cryptozillah

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I tried out the 1709 version the other day.
I could get 3 of 6 cards detected by windows at most.

I hazzled with it for hours but it was a total mess.

Is there a workaround for this ?
I cant mine ETH right now with any of my newbuilt nvidia rigs.

Vann

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Quote from: Eyedol-X on December 02, 2017, 01:22:36 PM

Has anyone tried one of the previous 4.4 beta versions? Do any of them work?

No, none of the Afterburner versions work with the Crimson Relive 17.1x.x drivers on Windows 10 v1709. The blockchain drivers work with v1709 and Afterbuner, but it causes the Windows UI to become unresponsive, so I rolled back to the blockchain drivers on v1703 and it's working fine.

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