Windows Lag on ASUS B250 Mining Expert - page 2.

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Quote from: Andartis on May 30, 2018, 07:41:55 AM

Quote from: AVP on May 29, 2018, 10:51:19 PM

Quote from: jmigdlc99 on May 29, 2018, 07:20:22 PM

Quote from: Andartis on May 29, 2018, 06:05:32 PM

I run several Rigs with 12 NVIDIA GPUs on Gigabyte Mainboards and never had a Problem.
So it must have something to do with AMD Cards....

I agree, it must have something to do with AMD cards.

I experienced the same thing before on one of my VEGA rigs. I ran 13-GPUs on a G4560 Petium processor with 4GB RAM. GPUs were 4 VEGAs and 7 RX470s. Opening radeon settings took forever too. I reinstalled everything and used blockchain drivers instead, works perfectly even up until today.

Did you ever find out what was the actual issue?

I've reinstalled Windows 2 times now, doesn't seem to make a difference.

Also, just curious did you re-install with all GPUs connected or connect 1 at a time afterwards?

Hi, I am still on it since it occured 2 days ago for me. I need a solution.
So far, reinstalling Windows or drivers did not make a change. Also I will post mor details in my thread, since it has a more open topic. I opened it to get more attention since the problem is not only related to the B250 Mining Expert. I had the same behaviour on a Gigabyte and on a MSI board.

Thanks for mentioning that. Perhaps its a common issue.

Have you tried opening Task Manager to see if anything is eating up the CPU when lag occurs?

For me it seams to be "Windows audio endpoint builder", but not always.. but killing it or stop/disabling the service does not seem to solve it..

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Quote from: AVP on May 29, 2018, 10:51:19 PM

Quote from: jmigdlc99 on May 29, 2018, 07:20:22 PM

Quote from: Andartis on May 29, 2018, 06:05:32 PM

I run several Rigs with 12 NVIDIA GPUs on Gigabyte Mainboards and never had a Problem.
So it must have something to do with AMD Cards....

I agree, it must have something to do with AMD cards.

I experienced the same thing before on one of my VEGA rigs. I ran 13-GPUs on a G4560 Petium processor with 4GB RAM. GPUs were 4 VEGAs and 7 RX470s. Opening radeon settings took forever too. I reinstalled everything and used blockchain drivers instead, works perfectly even up until today.

Did you ever find out what was the actual issue?

I've reinstalled Windows 2 times now, doesn't seem to make a difference.

Also, just curious did you re-install with all GPUs connected or connect 1 at a time afterwards?

Hi, I am still on it since it occured 2 days ago for me. I need a solution.
So far, reinstalling Windows or drivers did not make a change. Also I will post mor details in my thread, since it has a more open topic. I opened it to get more attention since the problem is not only related to the B250 Mining Expert. I had the same behaviour on a Gigabyte and on a MSI board.

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Quote from: jmigdlc99 on May 29, 2018, 07:20:22 PM

Quote from: Andartis on May 29, 2018, 06:05:32 PM

I run several Rigs with 12 NVIDIA GPUs on Gigabyte Mainboards and never had a Problem.
So it must have something to do with AMD Cards....

I agree, it must have something to do with AMD cards.

I experienced the same thing before on one of my VEGA rigs. I ran 13-GPUs on a G4560 Petium processor with 4GB RAM. GPUs were 4 VEGAs and 7 RX470s. Opening radeon settings took forever too. I reinstalled everything and used blockchain drivers instead, works perfectly even up until today.

Did you ever find out what was the actual issue?

I've reinstalled Windows 2 times now, doesn't seem to make a difference.

Also, just curious did you re-install with all GPUs connected or connect 1 at a time afterwards?

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Quote from: Andartis on May 29, 2018, 06:05:32 PM

I run several Rigs with 12 NVIDIA GPUs on Gigabyte Mainboards and never had a Problem.
So it must have something to do with AMD Cards....

I agree, it must have something to do with AMD cards.

I experienced the same thing before on one of my VEGA rigs. I ran 13-GPUs on a G4560 Petium processor with 4GB RAM. GPUs were 4 VEGAs and 7 RX470s. Opening radeon settings took forever too. I reinstalled everything and used blockchain drivers instead, works perfectly even up until today.

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I run several Rigs with 12 NVIDIA GPUs on Gigabyte Mainboards and never had a Problem.
So it must have something to do with AMD Cards....

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Quote from: darkneorus on May 29, 2018, 04:20:05 PM

you must install Windows on GPT partition and boot Windows in UEFI mode to properly use 5+ cards.

I know this is the correct way to do it with Biostar's mining specific motherboards, so I believe it would be the same for other manufacturers as well. We run 6-8 GPU systems on Windows with more then half of them on Intel Dual Core Celeron or Pentium CPUs and they work fine for us.

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Thanks for replies.

I tried updating BIOS & setting Virtual Memory at 36-52GB (added to orig. post). But problem still remains...

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Hey guys! I am having exactly the same problem. Here is my thread: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/amd-cards-lead-to-stuttering-windows-10-after-installing-drivers-any-ideas-4353979
I opened another because the problem is not associated with the ASUS B250 Mining Expert. I had it on a Gigabyte too. Check my thread to read what I tried so far.

edit: So I read its a GPT Problem? But windows 10 on a SSD automatically sets UEFI and GPT, or not?
All my other 12 GPU rigs did not require any further settings (but they also are all NVIDIA Rigs hmm...)

Checked. Its GPT and I still have the problem!

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Quote from: darkneorus on May 29, 2018, 04:20:05 PM

you must install Windows on GPT partition and boot Windows in UEFI mode to properly use 5+ cards.

Nuts! I hadn't heard of this requirement. Got me thinking... how do I know what I have and how do I convert to GPT if I'm MBR???

Found this:

https://www.easyuefi.com/resource/check-mbr-or-gpt.html

and this:

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-convert-mbr-disk-gpt-move-bios-uefi-windows-10

for background:

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-server/storage/disk-management/change-an-mbr-disk-into-a-gpt-disk

Guess I know what I'll be doing tonight

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you must install Windows on GPT partition and boot Windows in UEFI mode to properly use 5+ cards.

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I'm running 16 GB ram on ASUS B250 so maybe that could help. What about allocating virtual memory? Not sure if that would help but worth a try.

And... is it lagging just when mining or all the time? If it's just when mining maybe try a different algorithm to see if it is any better. Of course, you'll want to mine the algo you want to mine but at least you will know if that algo is contributing to headaches.

So... things to try:

Set windows for optimal performance instead of visuals... http://www.thewindowsclub.com/disable-visual-effects-windows

Update BIOS

More RAM

Allocate virtual memory: https://www.x-plane.com/kb/increasing-virtual-memory-on-windows/

monitor resource usage in task manager to see what may be consuming processing power: https://www.windowscentral.com/how-identify-and-terminate-high-resource-processes-using-task-manager-windows-10

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Quote from: fanatic26 on May 29, 2018, 03:51:32 PM

That doesnt happen in linux, Windows is a terrible choice for a mining OS, especially with that many cards.

Reimage it with a good linux mining OS and all of your problems will go away.

Well if it would start to hiccup after 7 or 8 then I would agree. But 5 cards should be easy for any mining board. I'm running a bunch of 5 - 7 GPU rigs w/o any issues on Windows. I just think this board is very fussy..

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That doesnt happen in linux, Windows is a terrible choice for a mining OS, especially with that many cards.

Reimage it with a good linux mining OS and all of your problems will go away.

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Having an issue with ASUS B250 Mining Expert, where windows starts to lag after a 5th card is added. For now I plan to run 12-13 AMD cards.

3 or 4 cards seems ok, but with 5th windows lag is unusable. Opening device manager, seems like its refreshing every ~30 sec as in like looking for devices or something, which is weird.

This I tried so far:
- With & without iGPU
- various slot, card & riser combinations to rule out defective hardware
- installing drivers via windows update & installing manually from AMD's site (DDU cleaned each time).
- update latest BIOS & Asus chipset drivers
- set virtual memory at 36-52GB
- Windows Home vs. Windows Pro

Hardware:
- CPU: Pentium G4560 Kaby Lake Dual-Core 3.5 GHz
- 8 GB RAM / 120gb SSD
- MSI RX 570's (unflashed, yet)
- Windows 10 Pro (latest updates)

Anyone face a similar issue?

Any pointers at this point would be appreciated. Thanks.

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