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Topic: winning tricks Calling Outs and ODDS Poker (POKER LOUNGE) - page 2. (Read 1649 times)

legendary
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I think there are no tricks in poker
It's all about maths and psychology, you have to know your chances and you have to know to read the opponents mannerism and strategies
+1 I have a friend who is a proffesional poker player and he just know maths and psychology he's work is playing in pokerstars in Portugal everyday.
Wow, really interesting, is your friend good?
You could show him bitcoin and bring him here to give us some advices  Shocked
legendary
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guess who's back
Hii all..

It is true that 4 of you said above?? Thats poker have a trick and the trick was counting like math?? Pliss share it more, i want to know all you got..

Because what i know playing poker only need luck to get good/best pair of cards and must have great mentality to bid more from others (have poker face), even if your cards were only High card without any single pair. But Pliss correct me if im wrong to give and share what i have in my mind.. i like to gambling but only on sportsbook and sometimes dice game, but never try poker or any other cards

let me make it easy for u guys , I think all of you know what are the good cards
but when we are talking about math , it's not that easy but also not that complicated

I will try to give you a small example : let's say we have A2 of spades and the Board is : Qs3s7hKd

The pot is $100 and our opponent moves all-in for $50. So we have to call $50 for a chance of winning a total of $150. Assuming that the only way for us to win the hand is by hitting our flush on the last card ( we put our opponents on at least two pairs ), what is the expected value of calling? In other words, is it profitable for us to call?
and he we go with the math : The probability of hitting a flush on the river is 4.1 to 1, which is roughly 20% chance or 0.2. Therefore, the odds of not hitting a flush will be 1 - 0.2 = 0.8
Also, notice how we are looking to win $150 and only lose $50 in each outcome. We are only going to lose $50 because that is how much we are paying to try and hit our flush in this single decision. We are not factoring in money that we have put in to the pot in previous betting rounds. We just take the facts from this decision alone
so now our EV one hitting the flush is : 150$ x 0.2 = +30$
now if we calculate our EV if we don't hit the flush this would be : -50$ x 0.8 = -40$
total EV = -10$ , that means the average of us when we call in this situation is losing 10$ every hand
so this is a situation we have to avoid calling on it ( calling the bet here is worst than playing dice or roulette )

now let's say that our opponent only raise 10$ , so that would make us risk 10$ to win 60$
let's do the math again in this situation  Grin
if we hit EV woud be : 60$ x 0.2 = +12$
if we don't hit EV would be : -10$ x 0.8 = -8$
EV = +4$ , which means in everytime we call this hand we are expecting to make 4$ and he we are doing the right decision and these decisions which makes some players winners and others are losers

I really hope that u understand a little about how math plays its part in poker
legendary
Activity: 1330
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I think there are no tricks in poker
It's all about maths and psychology, you have to know your chances and you have to know to read the opponents mannerism and strategies
+1 I have a friend who is a proffesional poker player and he just know maths and psychology he's work is playing in pokerstars in Portugal everyday.
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 503
I think there are no tricks in poker
It's all about maths and psychology, you have to know your chances and you have to know to read the opponents mannerism and strategies
sr. member
Activity: 308
Merit: 250
Hii all..

It is true that 4 of you said above?? Thats poker have a trick and the trick was counting like math?? Pliss share it more, i want to know all you got..

Because what i know is playing poker is only need luck to get good card and best mentality to bid more from others (have poker face). Pliss correct me if im wrong, i like to gambling but only on sportsbook and sometimes dice game, but never try poker..

Yeah, actually I never heard of this before.  I just bet when I have a good hand, and never bluff Tongue

I am not familiar with that terminology, does anyone have a link to an overview of the basic idea?  Thanks, I am interested in learning more about this.
sr. member
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Merit: 250
Hii all..

It is true that 4 of you said above?? Thats poker have a trick and the trick was counting like math?? Pliss share it more, i want to know all you got..

Because what i know playing poker only need luck to get good/best pair of cards and must have great mentality to bid more from others (have poker face), even if your cards were only High card without any single pair. But Pliss correct me if im wrong to give and share what i have in my mind.. i like to gambling but only on sportsbook and sometimes dice game, but never try poker or any other cards
legendary
Activity: 2436
Merit: 1804
guess who's back
Poker game always interesting to learned more deeply so that we can play well and Win, Its always be expected for every poker players.
AFAIK, Calculation card opportunities that will come out in playing poker called OUTS, which serves outs calculation to determine the POT ODDS a comparison / ratio between the total number of chips in the pot to the amount of betting that must be called at that time .

so, is there anybody want to share how winning tricks calling Outs and ODDS work?

these are not tricks at all , simply this is math and this what makes poker +EV game
without knowing these concepts I'm afraid dice and roulette would be much better for a gambler
I can help you with that if you are really interested in mastering poker
there are many books around that explain these concepts
I would recommend you to read Poker Math That Matters by Owen Gaines , this is really good one
and designed for beginners , he shows how math work with coin flip first in order to introduce you to the math of gambling
then he start to teach you to calculate outs , odds , implied odds , and then you may learn how to put your opponent in a rang of hands
I'm sure you will have a fun read if you are really interested in learning math of poker
legendary
Activity: 1330
Merit: 1000
Count the # of outs you believe you have.

Times that by 4 if you're on the flop.  That is roughly your % of winning.

Times that by 2 if you're on the turn.
sr. member
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Scat The Billionaire
Poker game always interesting to learned more deeply so that we can play well and Win, Its always be expected for every poker players.
AFAIK, Calculation card opportunities that will come out in playing poker called OUTS, which serves outs calculation to determine the POT ODDS a comparison / ratio between the total number of chips in the pot to the amount of betting that must be called at that time .

so, is there anybody want to share how winning tricks calling Outs and ODDS work?
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