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legendary
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So far 1989 potential bonus winners (bonus = activity bonus + referrer bonus)
So far 1628500 satoshi won with the bonus

I have increased the reward from 1 or 1 to 1or 100
This increased of course a little the chances to get the 5000 satoshi bonus.

It's funny because I have less claims...
This means that the average rewards will increase.

Finnaly I think I will soon return back with 1 satoshi...people prefer 1 satoshi and ofter 5000 satoshi bonus.

legendary
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So far 1964 potential bonus winners (bonus = activity bonus + referrer bonus)
So far 1598500 satoshi won with the bonus

Congratulations:
Adaptation is in progress.

People claim more strategicly.

People at least have understood that it is possible to get an average reward per claim arround 1000 satoshi.

People have understood that it is possible to claim without all the horriblr time down counters and transparent "antibot" links.

A little change for an little time.

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1 (50%), 100 (50%) satoshi every 100 minutes and activity points for winning 5000 satoshi.












legendary
Activity: 1778
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Is somewhere a rule about what a faucet is?
I give 1 satoshi ...and i can give bonus in the kind I want...
I have seen faucets with 1 satoshi and no bonus...

I have already seen faucets where you are never paid...

Why could I not propose faucets to people who whant such kind of faucet?

LOL, you make me laugh.

I'm glad for you..;I would be sad if  I would make you cry.
How much have you already won with my faucet?
many people are clever and have a good average.
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 501
Is somewhere a rule about what a faucet is?
I give 1 satoshi ...and i can give bonus in the kind I want...
I have seen faucets with 1 satoshi and no bonus...

I have already seen faucets where you are never paid...

Why could I not propose faucets to people who whant such kind of faucet?

LOL, you make me laugh.
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
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Is somewhere a rule about what a faucet is?
I give 1 satoshi ...and i can give bonus in the kind I want...
I have seen faucets with 1 satoshi and no bonus...

I have already seen faucets where you are never paid...

Why could I not propose faucets to people who whant such kind of faucet?
legendary
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Lol this the lowest faucet ive never seen before... i think you trying to visit your site as a impresions...
hero member
Activity: 504
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The problem with your faucet is there is no provability fairness...people feel cheated if they use your faucet and get 1 satoshi and then maybe they might get paid later...why not just pay them nothing and say you might get paid later if you keep claiming nothing...People want bells and whistles and payment and if they like something on your page they might click a link and you get paid...most people pass all banners until the 50th time they see it and maybe they will click for you. Racing to get paid from you and the chance of losing is a waste of time to me when i know i can just go to another faucet and take my earnings. You have major competition out there and your faucet will truly fail....sure you might make a couple cents in the beginning for new people trying your faucet but they will never come back and that's where you are losing.

*Drops Mic*

Why 1 satoshi and not 0 satoshi like you talk about?

Because it is not possible.The systeme does not work with 0 satoshi.
Why go people on other faucets and nowadays only few times on my faucet?
because they believe that it is more profitable on other ones.
Ok...they are right because I as well claim where I belive it is the best to claim.
But...
BUt the great system of my faucet is that if less claims then the average reward per claim can increase.
If so...if people are logical people then they will claim on mine if it gives more then on other faucets.


You would be better off with a contest and have them enroll their BTC address then try and come off as a faucet

Why?

because that's what your faucet is.... a contest right??  its not really a faucet !
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
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The problem with your faucet is there is no provability fairness...people feel cheated if they use your faucet and get 1 satoshi and then maybe they might get paid later...why not just pay them nothing and say you might get paid later if you keep claiming nothing...People want bells and whistles and payment and if they like something on your page they might click a link and you get paid...most people pass all banners until the 50th time they see it and maybe they will click for you. Racing to get paid from you and the chance of losing is a waste of time to me when i know i can just go to another faucet and take my earnings. You have major competition out there and your faucet will truly fail....sure you might make a couple cents in the beginning for new people trying your faucet but they will never come back and that's where you are losing.

*Drops Mic*

Why 1 satoshi and not 0 satoshi like you talk about?

Because it is not possible.The systeme does not work with 0 satoshi.
Why go people on other faucets and nowadays only few times on my faucet?
because they believe that it is more profitable on other ones.
Ok...they are right because I as well claim where I belive it is the best to claim.
But...
BUt the great system of my faucet is that if less claims then the average reward per claim can increase.
If so...if people are logical people then they will claim on mine if it gives more then on other faucets.


You would be better off with a contest and have them enroll their BTC address then try and come off as a faucet

Why?

people are free  and win satoshi and i pay my faucetbox fees ...
hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 501
The problem with your faucet is there is no provability fairness...people feel cheated if they use your faucet and get 1 satoshi and then maybe they might get paid later...why not just pay them nothing and say you might get paid later if you keep claiming nothing...People want bells and whistles and payment and if they like something on your page they might click a link and you get paid...most people pass all banners until the 50th time they see it and maybe they will click for you. Racing to get paid from you and the chance of losing is a waste of time to me when i know i can just go to another faucet and take my earnings. You have major competition out there and your faucet will truly fail....sure you might make a couple cents in the beginning for new people trying your faucet but they will never come back and that's where you are losing.

*Drops Mic*

Why 1 satoshi and not 0 satoshi like you talk about?

Because it is not possible.The systeme does not work with 0 satoshi.
Why go people on other faucets and nowadays only few times on my faucet?
because they believe that it is more profitable on other ones.
Ok...they are right because I as well claim where I belive it is the best to claim.
But...
BUt the great system of my faucet is that if less claims then the average reward per claim can increase.
If so...if people are logical people then they will claim on mine if it gives more then on other faucets.


You would be better off with a contest and have them enroll their BTC address then try and come off as a faucet
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
Free WSPU2 Token or real dollars
The problem with your faucet is there is no provability fairness...people feel cheated if they use your faucet and get 1 satoshi and then maybe they might get paid later...why not just pay them nothing and say you might get paid later if you keep claiming nothing...People want bells and whistles and payment and if they like something on your page they might click a link and you get paid...most people pass all banners until the 50th time they see it and maybe they will click for you. Racing to get paid from you and the chance of losing is a waste of time to me when i know i can just go to another faucet and take my earnings. You have major competition out there and your faucet will truly fail....sure you might make a couple cents in the beginning for new people trying your faucet but they will never come back and that's where you are losing.

*Drops Mic*

Why 1 satoshi and not 0 satoshi like you talk about?

Because it is not possible.The systeme does not work with 0 satoshi.
Why go people on other faucets and nowadays only few times on my faucet?
because they believe that it is more profitable on other ones.
Ok...they are right because I as well claim where I belive it is the best to claim.
But...
BUt the great system of my faucet is that if less claims then the average reward per claim can increase.
If so...if people are logical people then they will claim on mine if it gives more then on other faucets.

hero member
Activity: 504
Merit: 501
The problem with your faucet is there is no provability fairness...people feel cheated if they use your faucet and get 1 satoshi and then maybe they might get paid later...why not just pay them nothing and say you might get paid later if you keep claiming nothing...People want bells and whistles and payment and if they like something on your page they might click a link and you get paid...most people pass all banners until the 50th time they see it and maybe they will click for you. Racing to get paid from you and the chance of losing is a waste of time to me when i know i can just go to another faucet and take my earnings. You have major competition out there and your faucet will truly fail....sure you might make a couple cents in the beginning for new people trying your faucet but they will never come back and that's where you are losing.

*Drops Mic*
legendary
Activity: 1778
Merit: 1026
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So in other words, you're running the first and only communistic faucet.

I take back what I said about you making any sort of sense.

Okay, good luck with your faucet.

*unsubscribe*

I see it more as an capitalistic one.
Buy an communistic one...all should be on the same level and earn the same?
here it is not so.
if you check the datas (last claimers,top claimers and top winner you see very different rewards per claim.

If hungry claimers will flood the claim possibiliies you can have difficulties to earn the single kopek.

I explained several times...it's a race...a simply race.

hero member
Activity: 882
Merit: 976
So in other words, you're running the first and only communistic faucet.

I take back what I said about you making any sort of sense.

Okay, good luck with your faucet.

*unsubscribe*
legendary
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Nice story but it is out of topic.

Firstable my profit is not what does matter the most.I will want not lose too much.

With a "classic" faucet the owner fiw the average reward per claim and after a time he see if he is winner or loser.
I hope you follow me.

if he gives to much the faucets dry out or he pays from his own poket.
If he gives to be winner then then people claim if they find the reward interesting.
All is static and you have to regulate yourself because about i have said above:
to much for claimers you lose...not enough you have few claimers.

With my systems it is the opposit.
I give out daily what I want and the claimers fix the average reward.

In classic system the owner see how much for a fixed reward by the owner how much claimer he got.
Ok?...you follow?

With my system I know how many times people claim for 5000 satoshi or 1000 satoshi or 15000 satoshi etc...
Every fauceter or faucet owner can analyse my datas and learn something.
I know faucet owner who are not interested in claiming but interested in my datas.

By logic principle if tomorrow I give more daily reward...the average reward by claim should not grow because if more is given...more people will claim and the average reward will then decrease.

My goal is not to make huge profit,my goal is to propose an amount and people claim or do not claim...
it's all.
perhaps if one day...I have fun to propose 100000 or 500000 satoshi per day to see if my theory about average reward per claim is confirmed...I will do.

So far I satisfy myself with 10000 or 40000 satoshi per day.



hero member
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But nowadays I certainly make a little profit.
If the profit is stable...i can increase the earning of claimers.

You finally said something that makes a bit of sense.

Listen, we all know that although there is a bit of a drive for us to get the word about Bitcoin out there, which is what drives faucet owners to become, well, faucet owners, but let's be honest. The real motivation behind it is the money. The profit. If it wasn't profitable, why would you waste so much time and energy into creating the site and offering people rewards for visiting?

I'm going to try to break it to you in a way that you might understand a bit better. After the invention of the wheel, do you think others tried to make something better than that? Was there anything better than the wheel that could have been used to transport people and things? After the wheel was invented, I'm sure that word travelled fast (faster than before the wheel was invented), and within a certain period of time, EVERYONE was using the wheel around the globe.

But then let's say that an inventor came along and created a block. With a hole in it. He rounded the edges of the corners a bit. It wasn't round, like a wheel, but it still turned, with much greater force. Let's say that he then took this block, put it on a wagon, and rolled up into town. And while he was in town, he told everyone that people could buy this block, because he was offering it much cheaper than the wheel. And to make up for it not being as effective as a round wheel, let's imagine that he said he would give random people that used this wheel a lifetime supply of them.

Here's the moral of this little story. Just because he was giving away a lifetime supply of these square wheels doesn't make it more efficient than the round wheel. Nor does it make it more effective. Or more attractive to the villagers to buy a single square wheel, even with the promise of a lifetime supply for a few lucky villagers that purchased that wheel!

That's what you're doing. You've made a square wheel, and although some people probably may think it's cool, it's not effective. You may sell one or two or three of them here and there, but I guarantee that if you focused on producing round wheels, like everyone else, you would make much more profit selling those, with much less effort, than the one or two sales you're currently getting for your square wheels.

In other words, I'll put it simply in a very well-known saying: If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

There's a reason why other faucet owners (take thefaucetrunner, for example) are making much more money than you. It's because they've taken a proven model, and branded it as their own, using very similar methods to other faucet owners.

I really hope that you can see this in a better light, and understand that you could make more of a profit from doing this, simply by running a faucet like others. You can always add your own spin, like how thefaucetrunner has the crazy bonus hours, and runner's bonus... but make your own promotion. Just don't do it by giving away 5,000 satoshi to fauceters that waste their time claiming 1 satoshi. That's like giving a starving man (amongst a starving village) a fish, right after you slap him in the face with it.

That's all I got.

*drops mic*
legendary
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Do you know how many prizes of 4444, 5555, 7777 and 3333 I have paid out in the last week?

In fact I often pay double these amounts as users win during my Bonus Hour (or with their daily loyalty claim bonus)

So this figure can be up to 150% higher than the top prizes I offer.

I pay out over 10,000,000 satoshis per day - how much do you pay out bro?

I do not know exactly...in average it is 15000 satoshi per day.
but this can chage sometimes 10000 ...sometimes 50000
the first days I paid too much and I lost satoshi...
It does not matter but I cannot lost for ever...(lol)
But nowadays I certainly make a little profit.
If the profit is stable...i can increase the earning of claimers.
hero member
Activity: 882
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Do you know how many prizes of 4444, 5555, 7777 and 3333 I have paid out in the last week?

In fact I often pay double these amounts as users win during my Bonus Hour (or with their daily loyalty claim bonus)

So this figure can be up to 150% higher than the top prizes I offer.

I pay out over 10,000,000 satoshis per day - how much do you pay out bro?

For the record, winspiral, on The Faucet Runner, my balance since about 12 hours ago from the site is as follows:
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Current balance: 12,987 satoshis

That number will easily be 20,000 by the time I cash out before midnight again tonight. And I'm just one guy. And I know I'm not the only guy cashing out on this site. And this is only 1 out of 4 faucets (that I'm aware of) that thefaucetrunner operates.

So I truly don't believe that you will find more qualified advice and criticism from anyone else on the forums like he has given you. I'm sure he knows what formulas work for running a faucet, and I'm fairly certain he's profitable at it... Otherwise, he wouldn't launch one faucet after the next after the next...

Just sayin.
hero member
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The more you try to justify yourself, the more you look like an idiot, just my opinion. If it's working for you, just ignore the haters and stop feeding them with more ammunition to make you look stupid. Because that's exactly what you're doing.

If you're happy with your faucet and your traffic to it, then by all means, enjoy your life, but like I said: the more you try to justify your faucet, the more you look like an idiot.

Hey, buddy. Every time you write a long response to anyone that writes something about your faucet, it makes you look like you're trying too hard to prove that your method is a good one. If so many people doubt it, then it's not proven to the masses, but to the few select that like to play this style of game... If you're happy with that, then good for you, but the more you write a long ass explanation of why you do what you do, the more you look like an idiot.

So I just wrote the same shit several times. Will you get it, finally? Nope. But that's exactly what YOU'RE doing. There's nothing that you're going to say that will change the minds of those that don't think this is a good idea, just in the same way that there's nothing that they will say that will change your mind, either.

By the way, the more you talk, the more you sound like a babbling idiot.
sr. member
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Do you know how many prizes of 4444, 5555, 7777 and 3333 I have paid out in the last week?

In fact I often pay double these amounts as users win during my Bonus Hour (or with their daily loyalty claim bonus)

So this figure can be up to 150% higher than the top prizes I offer.

I pay out over 10,000,000 satoshis per day - how much do you pay out bro?
legendary
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You're disgusting.

I offer 444x the amount you do per hour on my lowest paying faucet. You're a scumbag.

This does absolutly not matter.
the day you offer 444x the amount I offer to claimers i will certainly aplause.

My best claimers are earning 1650 satoshi per claim.
its hard because the other ones push down the average reward per claim...I cannot avoid,because it is the principle of the individual earning.

I hope you are not jalous about my game...
this morning 2 winners have won 5000 satoshi for 7 claims and 1 winner for 8 claims.

I know many faucets giving less...and on my faucet you have no need to click 8 unvisible "antibot"
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