Without ETF , can expect a huge bull run - page 2.

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Quote from: udayantha11 on September 06, 2018, 12:08:04 PM

Previous year also we faced a good bull run with out ETF. ETF not related to bull run. but panic people there so if ETF rejects by the sec or postponed they sell their portfolio for even loss.

So i believe normal market circle and bull run can be expected in next months.

what about your opinions ?

I think without ETF it will be very difficult to start the bull market because many institutional players and big investors are waiting for this decision. Without that BTC will cost 6500-700 as now.

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I think yes if big markets like China and India cancel ban then i sure we will see big bull run afther that but in long term anyway we see bull and green in market.

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Exchange traded funds are not what cryptocurrencies need for massive adoption.
ETFs will bring more money (smart money) to crypto market, but still will not help with real use of cryptocurrencies.

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Quote from: udayantha11 on September 06, 2018, 12:08:04 PM

Previous year also we faced a good bull run with out ETF. ETF not related to bull run. but panic people there so if ETF rejects by the sec or postponed they sell their portfolio for even loss.

So i believe normal market circle and bull run can be expected in next months.

what about your opinions ?

You are right, last year there was a rise in prices without any decision of the SEC, and now I think that this decision is given a great importance. However, we must agree that the market situation is likely to improve after a positive adoption of the ETF.

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I think that almost all the news is used to manipulate the market, and it will be always, if not news about ETF, then something else.

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If things like that make you more happy then continue the imagination but I'm sure without ETFs Bitcoin will continue to stand.
A small supply and a lot of people buy, the price will go up.

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Quote from: udayantha11 on September 06, 2018, 12:08:04 PM

Previous year also we faced a good bull run with out ETF. ETF not related to bull run. but panic people there so if ETF rejects by the sec or postponed they sell their portfolio for even loss.

So i believe normal market circle and bull run can be expected in next months.

what about your opinions ?

The ETF could have been unrelated to the bull market. If no one has mentioned it from beginning to end, perhaps this year can continue the enthusiasm of last year. But when it was revealed, everyone looked forward to it. The greater the expectation, the greater the disappointment.

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I think it`s possible, but if ETF will be not approved it will take more time to huge bull run. I think ETF will turn situation better quickly.

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Definitely we don't need ETF for a bull run. Bitcoin can easily climb back up to 8,500$ mark which was the highest peak Bitcoin reached this year. But, we ourselves are getting dependant on the ETF approval due to speculations. ETF proposal will only cause big investors to join the market nothing more, nothing less. So, small investors like us should not care about what happens with ETF or the speculations.

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Quote from: auliahr on September 13, 2018, 02:24:52 AM

everyone is scared, hoping that the ETF will be accepted and can create a bull run. what if not accepted? everyone will panic and the market will collapse again. they will continue to do this, consideration, acceptance or not and the decision is postponed. this incident keeps repeating, what is the real purpose?

remember, bitcoin has long been born and several times has reached a bull run, without SEC or even with its ETF products. very annoying.

That was the case only for the first couple of times, when traders actually panicked, for a little while. Then they couldn't care less as it quickly became a non-event. It is as clear as day that there is little chance that ETF will get approved any time soon in the foreseeable future. The rejection is what people already expect by default, and they can't be scared by it. They would rather be scared out of their pants if it suddenly gets approved.

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Quote from: Docbee on September 13, 2018, 10:39:57 AM

There was no ETF last year bitcoin did very well and btc reached its ATH a new ATH is feasible without ETF the fate of bitcoin doesn't resk on ETF approval.

The last growth was provided by the money of ordinary people. Now they are scared, they will not bring their money into the crypto currency in the near future. Most likely, future growth will begin thanks to institutional investors and it will begin with the approval of ETF

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There was no ETF last year bitcoin did very well and btc reached its ATH a new ATH is feasible without ETF the fate of bitcoin doesn't resk on ETF approval.

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Quote from: CrimBit on September 13, 2018, 10:23:46 AM

Yes the bull market can occur without ETF, because last year the bull market occurred without interference from ETF. the refusal of ETF will be used by some people in manipulating prices, they just want to accumulate more by getting people to sell their crypto assets at low prices, then buy in large quantities from below and prices bounce back up, then they laugh and will come back next year with a more brilliant idea.

bitcoin ETF is financial tool. The stability of prices in the cryptocurrency market and the massive adoption of crypto should be primarily influenced by the development of blockchain projects and the increase in the value of these projects in the most diverse areas of our life (medicine, real estate, finance, etc.)

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Yes the bull market can occur without ETF, because last year the bull market occurred without interference from ETF. the refusal of ETF will be used by some people in manipulating prices, they just want to accumulate more by getting people to sell their crypto assets at low prices, then buy in large quantities from below and prices bounce back up, then they laugh and will come back next year with a more brilliant idea.

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Quote from: fulled on September 13, 2018, 04:11:26 AM

I think crypto still can be hit huge bull, but the chance is small, ETF is a must if crypto want more money to circulated on the platform, investor need to feeling safe before they decide to investing their money

This month last week we may expect next bill for the SEC commission.
I am not sure this is official bill but I got this information from someone who have replied me in this forum.

If we people give the bump more by avoiding the whale's manipulation means we may expect the reach like 10k or even more.

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Quote from: udayantha11 on September 06, 2018, 12:08:04 PM

Previous year also we faced a good bull run with out ETF. ETF not related to bull run. but panic people there so if ETF rejects by the sec or postponed they sell their portfolio for even loss.

So i believe normal market circle and bull run can be expected in next months.

what about your opinions ?

It would be better if Bitcoin gets the SEC approval it will be a big kick for Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency as well, I agree with your asessment that we do not have ETF last year and we had a great year last year, but people and investors wants to see huge changes and development in cryptocurrency and ETF is a big start.

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Quote from: udayantha11 on September 06, 2018, 12:08:04 PM

Previous year also we faced a good bull run with out ETF. ETF not related to bull run. but panic people there so if ETF rejects by the sec or postponed they sell their portfolio for even loss.

So i believe normal market circle and bull run can be expected in next months.

what about your opinions ?

i just dont know if next coming months maybe bull is hiding from whales hand. ELF i think is a big signal to all category when it approved by this year.. it surely a massive buying with almost crypto market.

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previous bull run is due to tonnes of crypto emerges out of nowhere. end up all become shitcoin, market hit new low every few weeks. next bull run requires something much more substantial. then the market can be more stable.

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I think crypto still can be hit huge bull, but the chance is small, ETF is a must if crypto want more money to circulated on the platform, investor need to feeling safe before they decide to investing their money

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In fact, the ETF has shorted the cryptocurrency, and perhaps now they want the dollar to rise. Do not want cryptocurrencies to distract the influence of the dollar. But I think the impact of ETFs on cryptocurrencies is only temporary.

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