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January 08, 2024, 06:28:07 PM
#47

Op to be honest, I don't know where you got this from but, you sound like someone who has really lost a lot and is depressed. Anyway if it's because of your loss, sorry for the experience. This is the more reason. Why we ought to gamble responsibly, and not chase after losses or wins.  Even if some gambling games are obviously scams or fraud, you should know when to quite those kind of games before you become absolutely broke. I prefer to bet on sports games than those regular online casino that might be a scam.

The gambling is not the scam one,some website may be the scam one.The gamblers should take responsibility of finding the best one before the usage of the real money to the gambling site.The usage of the top gambling site will reduce the amount of loss percentage of the player to low.The gambling can’t be predicted most of the time.The strategy of the game also failed sometimes in the gambling site,the random betting was the essential one at the time of the strategy doesn’t work in the gambling site.I had deep sorry for the OP,if he had loss some dollars in the gambling site.

I won't tell you that OP because there's never like that. You won't find a business where all (write whatever you like here, for example restaurants, banks...) are fair and structured the way they claim they are. It's the same with casinos that sometimes scam you, which is why we tell people to use due diligence. You should always check reviews, look for scam accusations and so on.
The majority of casinos aren't scams, just mathematically designed to make some money, but most people can't do math and don't understand it.

The gambler can’t change their business to restaurants,if he had failed being the gambler.Because not all the business will suit for all the people,we should do the business which suit for us.The casino need to make more probability for each bet even the single bet made with just one dollar.
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January 08, 2024, 06:19:49 PM
#46
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Op to be honest, I don't know where you got this from but, you sound like someone who has really lost a lot and is depressed. Anyway if it's because of your loss, sorry for the experience. This is the more reason. Why we ought to gamble responsibly, and not chase after losses or wins.  Even if some gambling games are obviously scams or fraud, you should know when to quite those kind of games before you become absolutely broke. I prefer to bet on sports games than those regular online casino that might be a scam.
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January 08, 2024, 06:07:14 PM
#45
Some people believe that casinos are designed to favour their owners more than the gamblers, and to some point, I also agree with that. There is no time that someone will build a business that he or she will not benefit from.
 
There is a level of fairness in most reputable casinos, but there is also a level of manipulation in those greedy and scam casinos. The thing is, you need to be careful about which casino you choose to gamble at.
 
For the real ones, they make sure they choose or build their own games based on an algorithm, which will make it hard for gamblers to just predict and win games easily, but if you try hard and your skill is accompanied by luck, then you might be lucky to be one of their regular winners.
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January 08, 2024, 05:48:13 PM
#44
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

It's not fraud, however some people apparently cannot understand the simple maths that casinos will TELL YOU upfront and do not try to hide. Look for any references to "RTP" and that is the return to player amount. On average that is the return that you will receive and most games are in the 95% + range, which does simply mean that they are slowly taking your money because they each time you play is independent from all other plays. They do not owe you any money, nor do they force you to play there, gambling companies are only making money because other people are greedy and believe there is a short cut to wealth. On average you will lose, but people like to forget each losing spin and just focus on the "big" wins, that is what keeps these companies in business.
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January 08, 2024, 04:54:37 PM
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When a person indulges in gambling for the sake of enjoyment, they are essentially justifying their questionable actions and seeking self-defense. The thrill and contentment derived from playing games of chance and securing substantial victories can indeed bring about moments of joy. However, it is intrinsic to human nature to perpetually yearn for more, never truly satisfied with what they have attained. Therefore, it becomes clear that the claim of gambling being solely for amusement is nothing but a facade. In reality, those who partake in these activities are driven by the desire to reap financial gains and aspire to join the ranks of the fortunate few who strike it big in the realm of gambling. And then, the question arises - will he, after experiencing a significant triumph in his gambling ventures, abruptly cease his involvement in this risky pursuit and never set foot into its realm again? It is not as simple as that. Returning to my earlier statement, it is the nature of human eels to never truly experience contentment, making it an arduous task to derive genuine pleasure. Hence, upon achieving a substantial victory, he invariably finds himself drawn back into the enticing world of gambling, driven by an insatiable desire to surpass his previous triumph and attain an even grander conquest. This relentless pursuit leads him to progressively increase the stakes placed on each bet and indulge in increasingly audacious wagers.
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January 08, 2024, 04:48:59 PM
#42
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

It's what we call "house edge", thus, that's what you basically describe, and it varies game to game. Worst game that someone can play is slot machine, but it's the most popular games whether online or offline and this is where many people lost their money to begin with. However, if you are not that addict and play for some fun, it doesn't matter though, as it is also part of human nature as your put it in your argument.

But if you are thinking to always make money when gambling? it's wrong mindset and we have discussed it here many times already. Just play what you can afford to lose and again, if you are lucky enough then you might win but it's not going to be like every time you are going to play.
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January 08, 2024, 04:37:23 PM
#41
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

You have a choice, don't gamble simply as that. But if you think that you can win and go and try to play into a casino that you think you are going to lose anyways then why gamble? That's why it's risky, but the thing is that there are people who won jackpot or even in a lottery, odds that people bet so you know that the system still works but obviously not everyone is lucky to win.

So I wouldn't call it a straight up fraud, casino's are tricky business, and as such everyone is all for the money. They have the house edge to begin win and we all know that as a gambler but still we gamble on them.
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January 08, 2024, 03:26:39 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
Playing for the jackpots is never easy and if you do, I believe you will be chasing your losses before you know it and advise you to play games that will pay you 20%-40% on your bankroll depending on the game chosen and the strategy used!

And the notion of Casinos tricking people, honestly I think as consenting adults (18+) the fact that everyone knows that the house always wins I really don't see any tricks here but the greed of the player that makes people gamble away whatever they had, but hey you lose some and you win some  Tongue

Otherwise, go out there and have some fun, and remember don't break your bank, happy new year.
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January 08, 2024, 03:15:12 PM
#39
I won't tell you that OP because there's never like that. You won't find a business where all (write whatever you like here, for example restaurants, banks...) are fair and structured the way they claim they are. It's the same with casinos that sometimes scam you, which is why we tell people to use due diligence. You should always check reviews, look for scam accusations and so on.
The majority of casinos aren't scams, just mathematically designed to make some money, but most people can't do math and don't understand it.
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January 08, 2024, 03:14:32 PM
#38
Don't have too high hopes for gambling. Avoid the ambition to get rich through gambling. However, gambling is a game that is set in such a way.
You cannot interfere with the regulations of each gambling platform. If you like it please play along, if not you can skip it.
People like gambling because it is fun, if you think gambling is a way to get rich then immediately close all information related to gambling from your mind.
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January 08, 2024, 03:11:19 PM
#37
I'm pretty sure most people knew that already but you know gambling is not something that guarantee you getting rich any way.
If you have a mindset on gambling like this, you'll be trap forever in the realm of hopelessness. Gambling and Guarantee is very contradicting words, you can't put it in the same sentence. If you mixed this up, you mess it up.

But there's a reason they called it jackpot. You know gambling all about luck or that you might be lucky enough to hit the jackpot that can cover the funds gambling have eaten from you.
Well for slots for sure, you only need a luck to hit that jackpot, I'm not sure how the machine is deciding when to give its jackpot but for sure it won't be the first spin.

Come to think of it if everyone is winning how will the casino pay. Through those losses most casino normally use to pay for others wins. Aslong there's winner they will always be losers.
How can you call it a gamble if there are no losers? Ofc there will be winners and losers, and if you know the house edge you know who always win at the end of the day. Imagine a brand new open casino and gave jackpot on every machine's first spin. That would be tragic haha.
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January 08, 2024, 02:59:11 PM
#36
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
It's sad you are playing on the wrong table yes some gambling platform are structured to only give wins to the table but there are lots of genuine casinos tables online and offline, personal from my region I prefer to play online and it's transparent and yes I lose some times but some times I also win that's how gambling is.
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January 08, 2024, 02:53:40 PM
#35
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

Gambling is for adults and not for children and every mature mind knows what is appropriate or inappropriate. If you think gambling is a fraud, that's your view based on your personal experience or studies. But you seem to miss the main point that gambling shouldn't be seen as a source of income but a source of entertainment. If you take gambling as a means of making money, it might make you put in more than you can afford to lose and this could make you see gambling as fraud. It is indeed difficult to beat the house, but I have seen gamblers who made a fortune from winning big from gambling.    

It sounds like to me this whole topic serves no purpose other than OP venting his anger (probably after losing money in gambling).

I also suspect that OP recently had a bad gambling experience. Maybe he lost a bet that he thought he was supposed to win. But he didn't know that gambling is unpredictable that is why we should always be careful.
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January 08, 2024, 02:29:20 PM
#34
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

The casinos (which are not in third world countries) are being watched heavily by regulators in order to ensure full transparency. They tell you the exact odds of winning and losing. You can hardly call it a fraud if you knew about how it works and what the odds of the game are, beforehand.

It sounds like to me this whole topic serves no purpose other than OP venting his anger (probably after losing money in gambling).

Next time, OP, you need to consider how much money you are comfortable with losing/winning and which games you wish to learn more about. Obviously winning a jackpot is completely different than winning a small prize. But it is not a random thing. We know that losing is always more probable than winning.
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January 08, 2024, 02:12:47 PM
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Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

You can't be serious. There is no way you can tell me that you didn't know that every casino game has a mathematical advantage over player, know as a house edge.
So it's not like games "always" make money for the house, hardly anyone would be playing them if that was the case, but a player will tend to lose if he keeps playing longer term.
Of course, there are shady casinos out there, and some games could be rigged, but to say that every casino, or every game, is a fraud is massive exaggeration. Most of established casinos are probably OK, they don't need to resort to fraud to make big profits.
And a lot can be done about human nature. We're not animals and are capable of overwriting our basic instincts, including stopping gambling if it's not working for you.
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January 08, 2024, 02:06:35 PM
#32
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
I hate to break it to you but gambling games are designed to be in favor of the house. it is common information among gamblers who have been gambling for a long time, but of course, not everyone knows or realizes it. that is also why the term "the house always wins" was created(at least that is what I believe)
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January 08, 2024, 01:46:20 PM
#31
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔
If you think in such way then obviously it would be better for you to stay away from gambling. Well, quite ringing a bell; there are fraudalent gambling platforms which are really taking away people's money but for sure not all platforms are. If you are after the jackpot then for sure it is not a new thing to most of us that it is not something which will take place just because we wanted to; some gamblers already retired without hitting their big win which simply proves how hard it is. Some gamblers managed to win on their early gambling career which is really amazing. We have different timeline, fortune, and luck which makes sense to say that if it isn't happening yet there will still be a chance afterwards and if nor, then there are other amounts you can win. Given the difficulty, if you still eye on that jackpot but fully aware that you cannot take losses, save yourself from guilt and disappointment; quit already and allows real gamblers to do their thing.
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January 08, 2024, 01:12:46 PM
#30
Take casino games for example especially jackpot casino games there is no way you can tell me that all of them are structured in such a way that they randomly always make money for the house if you ask me gambling is a fraud that has been used to trick people into believing that their choices matter it does not everyone that gambles is just there to make money for the casino unfortunately there is nothing that can be done about human nature 💔💔💔

I don't think this is true. Just now we had someone winning a 42m jackpot playing slots. How did he make any money for the casino? Even if he gambled there the last 10 years, I wouldn't expect him to lose more than 1 million in that time. He is definitely in the green now. Of course this is only one lucky example and a large number of people are losing at gambling, but I still believe in legitimate casinos. Without any winners there would be no motivation to start gambling.
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January 08, 2024, 01:06:57 PM
#29
I think almost everyone must be aware of that because after all when talking about gambling then we will definitely not let go of the word gambling with luck regardless of whether there is a setting or anything else in it a gambler will definitely only have a benchmark of luck about this.

We must realize that every casino whether they operate on land or online is all a business for them to make a profit and we know that so no matter how hard we will not be able to beat them the croupiers because we are players and they are businessmen so we will definitely lose.

But why do people still gamble despite the fact that this happens? Because there is a pleasure in itself at least that's what I feel right now. I know that I will definitely lose but I don't mind that because the desire to gamble in me is fulfilled especially the money I spend on gambling is not big so it won't mean anything to me.
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January 08, 2024, 01:00:28 PM
#28
I'm not sure the point you are trying to make because of the contradiction at the middle part of your post but I believe gambling is not a guarantee for riches and the house always has better winning chances than the player. You also need to understand that you have to gamble with the money you can afford to lose whether in online casino or offline and that is how you can be satisfied in your games whether lose or profit.

Haha yes it is quite confusing what is being said but it doesn't matter and maybe we can say something that we understand about this. Overall and however I share your belief that gambling really isn't the place to turn you into a rich man in no time, it's just a game of chance that requires you to put some money down if you want to get involved, that's it and there's absolutely no get rich quick element to it at all.

The reason? Obviously it's because the end result is always unpredictable as to whether you will win or lose the session you are doing, this is a fact and I think because the outcome of gambling is unpredictable then obviously this is the reason that it is very unlikely or even impossible for someone to become a rich man just by gambling, I would only believe you can become a rich man from gambling if you are one of those people who owns your own casino because basically the house will always win, but if you are just a casual gambler and then have the expectation of becoming a rich man then obviously it is very ridiculous and unreasonable if we think using common sense realistically. So the bottom line is that we must understand that gambling is not a place of income but just a game of chance that can fill your empty time and if you are lucky you will win, and obviously as you said that it is always the best choice to put a small amount that we can afford to be responsible for.
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