Topic: [WO/Hat-Gang Only - MODERATED] The fucking COVID vax thread (No hat? Fuck off!) - page 19. (Read 7225 times)

And now human civilization has regressed at least 100 years.

Hooray!

Progress!!!

I've heard of one person who is risking losing his job rather than getting vaxxed, and his job is in the public sector and pays approx $45 per hour (which is between double and triple the minimum wage in this area.) ... I mean, if you can survive the next few months unemployed, more power to you. Most people don't really have a choice but to do what everyone else does.

Personally, I don't think about it too much and got the jab a few months ago. I don't know what the long term effects are, but I'm still employed and can go almost anywhere. The unjabbed that don't have proof of jab, aren't allowed in certain places.

I live in an insane world where this healthy young guy loses his job for refusing the jab, even though he already *had* Covid just three months ago.  

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/general-hospital-steve-burton-confirms-firing-vaccine-mandate

Because in Clown World, jab > natural immunity  

The unvaxxed are going to play the lockdown game to call the pro-vaxxers out on their insane bullshit. Watch as CV19 not only does NOT go away in a few more years, even with some countries at 100% vaccinated + routine booster shots, but it'll be here to stay with the population forever. Just like the flu. Because vaxxers will continue to acquire and spread the virus every single year.

Then their "It'll be gone and we'll all be free again if everyone jabs" narrative completely falls apart.

Ah, we are arguing using nice, colorful pictures. Where have i seen that before?

On topic:
Yes, it helps (a bit), it's (a bit) better than without it.
But please, focus on the following pairs:

LV - RO

HR - SK

AT - SK

Note the differencies, especially the first two pairs, which are very similar in social/cultural aspects.
The vaccines are not the "end of the pandemic", as (my) government is pushing the narrative.

The death rate is not the only thing to look at.
Additionally, (imperfect) protection against spreading and infection is going to bongo figures  after three/six months and the vaccinated are considered "immune" (lol) for 9 or 12 months. The cream top is that "naturally immunized" are considered "immune" for six months, and these are protected stronger, longer and also have antibodies in the tissues of the upper respiration tract. Vaccines don't do this, and these are the tissues where SARS-CoV-2  is replicating fast (especially Delta) before it triggers tha later stages of immune reaction, which the vaccines are protecting against. Still, death and ICU rates among vaccinated are rising.
My government is trying to tell me: If everybody from age 5 to 99 gets forced to be jabbed, we're all free again. Until then, unvaxxed folks get locked down (allowed to go to work, of course). Tell me this is NOT stupid at all...

The vaccine helps, it's beter than without it.

Interesting interview in the local news yesterday, where the "head of hospitals" of one province was asked how many vaccinated/unvaccinated patients are on hospitalization and on intensive care departments.
Answer (translated):


Government via MSM:

WTF is wrong with this pack of liars?

China did it first  
This will get really sick. In a country with a similar name, they are currently discussing the wildest ideas to realize "vaccination duty" laws.
You get checked by any authority, you're not vaxxed? Get fined! From $4000 once to monthly payments of roughly $120 until you're vaxxed.
However, it will be hard to accomplish this in the face of constitutional rights, and if they do, i have my signed notes ready for the trials.
They thought it would be so easy to win against a mutating, hulled virus that went pandemic, with a jab.
This is the fucking Real Muppet Show!

What a fucking psychopath. Australians, get your guns ready... oh wait.

https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1462820589224267785

https://twitter.com/VigilantFox/status/1462820589224267785

More safu news from the Pfizer CV19 vaccine clown show... ADRs

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/fda-produces-the-first-91-pages-of


Also this:

CDC Admits Crushing Rights of Naturally Immune Without Proof They Transmit the Virus
https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/cdc-admits-crushing-rights-of-naturally

This is a damn good editorial...  I hope more people catch on in time.

https://www.gbnews.uk/gb-views/neil-oliver-will-we-remain-silent-while-such-a-dark-tide-slides-ever-closer-to-our-own-shores-one-country-at-a-time/161746

Info about the dangers of full length spike protein entering nucleus, yet to be confirmed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Unt03UBhbU

Interesting watch.
The guy in the video recommends using spike protein fragments in mRNA vaccines as alternative.

The CDC finally admitting that the vaccines can cause heart inflammation. Yet they just authorized for kids.  



EDIT: Oh and lookie, the MSM is already trying to spin it and gaslight. 

https://apnews.com/article/fact-checking-552859079506

CV19 vaccines are the safu-est vaccines evar

You're correct in that there are only two sides of the aisle: either you take the red pill and see this Great Plandemic Con Job for what it is, or you keep taking the blue pills and remain blissfully ignorant of it all.

All I can say is, the truth is coming out, and history will not look back and smile fondly on what is happening right now. It's the McCarthyism "Red Scare" all over again.

And personally, I will hold everyone that tried to strong arm, ridicule, condescend, and villainize anti-vaxxers responsible for their insane bullshit. There will be no quarter and no fks given. I'm sure when they finally all wake up from their mass delusion, they will suddenly have "selective amnesia" concerning their prior attitudes and actions.  

I seem to remember my spinning of semantics comment applying to both sides of the aisle so get off you biased high horse.

I'm sure there's just "a spinning of semantics" going on with the FDA's request about Pfizer's vaccine data. Nothing to see here.  

Thanks for that glimpse into our short-term future (speaking as citizen of your similar-sized, cheesy neighbour country), I guess things will go down a very similar path in the next days and weeks here (I guess we're between 10-15 days lagging behind). Though we have a public vote about a bunch of anti-Corona measures on 18th 28th and the government won't act until 19th 29th to not endanger that vote.

I found the herd-immunity by vaccinated percentage thing very amazing and actually very clever in an evil way, as it allows basically the gubbermint to adjust the numbers continously higher (arguing with new and more contagious variants) while keeping pointing fingers at the unvaccinated as culprits that the pandemic didn't end yet. We use to joke about 102.5% vaccinated needed in 2022 to end the pandemic.
They just shift the numbers higher and higher and have an easy scapegoat to blame why it didn't work and they will never get into the position to answer for their measures (just shift the percentage needed for herd-immunity 5 points higher and you're good, the higher you go the more unlikely it will ever be reached).

Current situation here is, they do literally and figuratively everything to force motivate unvaccinated people to vaccinate while the vulnerable elderly population wanting the booster very hard is denied access to it. I read this as "we are still growing the initial user base for the product", otherwise it just doesn't make sense.

Hospitals here are meanwhile well filled with vaccinated people severely sick on Covid, last 2 weeks death rate from/with Covid have gone about 50/50 vaccinated/unvaccinated.

I still believe one of the key factors of not getting severely ill or worse from it is the initial viral load you get, I therefor found that hint for Algovir very helpful and ordered a few bottles of it. Thanks for that information.

I myself will start to consider the vaccination once they..
..offer to test you for antibodies and possibly for genetic disposition and then make a recommendation to vaccinate or not
..offer to test you for antibodies after vaccination, to give you an idea on how much protection you have got and how much more you can risk now (or if you're one of the poor souls where the vaccination just didn't provoke any meaningful reaction)
..offer to test you for antibodies before they ask you to boost again
..fully disclose the agreements with the producers and all their data, if this is a problem of global dimension, there is no space for intransparency here.
..force all the self-declared pandemic and vaccination experts to full financial disclosure regarding payments/stocks etc. of involved parties, it would irritate me if not most of the loudest pro-vaxxers hold some stocks or have some lucrative consulting mandates for big pharma, at least this has been proven for the swine flu where Pfizer basically bought the whole WHO's vote.
..prove vaccination is not to be repeated in very short terms (i.e. years instead of months)

EDIT: To fix 2 dates I got wrong by 10 days in first paragraph