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Topic: wordpress removes bitcoin payment option - page 5. (Read 5336 times)

legendary
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February 23, 2015, 11:45:18 AM
#26
I was told earlier that I could buy a wordpress blog and I was collecting money for it but now this news has come like a shocker. I dint expect this as bitcoins is doing well.  Cry
legendary
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Sooner or later, a man who wears two faces forgets
February 23, 2015, 11:44:52 AM
#25
That is very bad!
We want more people to accept bitcoins not to stop them Sad
legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
February 23, 2015, 11:44:27 AM
#24
I was going to say most people must be stupid then but it looks like they actually are. I think you've got to be pretty dense to get put off by having more options available to you, but not all 'studies' are conclusive or scientific fact.

The studies are *conclusive* so indeed I am talking about "scientific fact" (not my opinion - these sorts of studies have been done many times and always produced roughly the same results).
legendary
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February 23, 2015, 11:42:35 AM
#23
Well I guess most of you are just too young to have actually read anything about all the studies into "options" that were done well before you were born.

Basically 3 options anyone can cope with, 5 options only those with above average intelligence can cope with and 7+ options will be too much for all but highly intelligent people to easily handle.

So when you design UI you use the 3 or 5 options "golden rule" (and avoid anything with more options unless it is for "experts only").

(and those "who doubt this" should bother to do some reading before doing their typing)


I was going to say most people must be stupid then but it looks like they actually are. I think you've got to be pretty dense to get put off by having more options available to you, but not all 'studies' are conclusive or scientific fact.
legendary
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Core dev leaves me neg feedback #abuse #political
February 23, 2015, 11:42:06 AM
#22
I wonder what made them do this. Maybe pressure from other payment companies.

Doubt it. Bitcoin isn't that much of a threat currently.

It is simple psychology - if you have 100 options for a meal then the average person is going to take a longer longer to decide then if you have say 2 options.

Each second of indecision is likely to be a "lost sale" (i.e. moved on to another website).


I doubt it means a lost sale. They don't have 100 options, but only about 4-5 . And if you see the option, that you would like to pay through , then thats one more extra sale.

Yeah. I don't understand this psychology either. Personally I like lots of options and the most popular ones were listed at the top with bitcoin at the bottom as they usually are on other sites too. Having the option there will have likely piqued peoples interest as to what bitcoin actually is so it's disappointing on that level too.

It has a lot to do with the fact that online shoppers (even for business) aren't 100% intent on buying... They are clicking around, and
whether they will actually buy NOW, or tomorrow, or next week, or never...is very subjective and based on gut level reactions.
People buy based on emotions most of the time.  More options means more time to think about it and usually less impulse to buy.



 

legendary
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
February 23, 2015, 11:39:04 AM
#21
Well I guess most of you are just too young to have actually read anything about all the studies into "options" that were done well before you were born.

Basically 3 options anyone can cope with, 5 options only those with above average intelligence can cope with and 7+ options will be too much for all but highly intelligent people to easily handle.

So when you design UI you use the 3 or 5 options "golden rule" (and avoid anything with more options unless it is for "experts only"). If you are thinking that the "file" menu in your browser has many more options then take a look again - is it divided into "menu sections"?

(and those "who doubt this" should bother to do some reading before doing their typing and take a closer look at how things they are presented with are typically divided up into groups of three or five items)
hero member
Activity: 500
Merit: 500
February 23, 2015, 11:34:10 AM
#20
I wonder what made them do this. Maybe pressure from other payment companies.

Doubt it. Bitcoin isn't that much of a threat currently.

It is simple psychology - if you have 100 options for a meal then the average person is going to take a longer longer to decide then if you have say 2 options.

Each second of indecision is likely to be a "lost sale" (i.e. moved on to another website).


I doubt it means a lost sale. They don't have 100 options, but only about 4-5 . And if you see the option, that you would like to pay through , then thats one more extra sale.

Yeah. I don't understand this psychology either. Personally I like lots of options and the most popular ones were listed at the top with bitcoin at the bottom as they usually are on other sites too. Having the option there will have likely piqued peoples interest as to what bitcoin actually is so it's disappointing on that level too.
hero member
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Merit: 783
better everyday ♥
February 23, 2015, 11:26:54 AM
#19
Bitcoin and Crypto in general is still a very experimental unproven currency and payment option.  I don't blame Wordpress if they just were testing the waters, to see if it were a viable payment method.  I'm sure sales were lacking, so they decided to pull the plug.

If and when Bitcoin reaches that point where it makes sense to add Bitcoin as a proper payment option, I'm sure you'll see it in their blog or it'll just reappear at checkout once again.

For now, we just have to wait patiently, and let Bitcoin grow.  'Tis still a little sprout.

legendary
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February 23, 2015, 11:17:28 AM
#18
I don't understand how having the option to pay in bitcoin will do them any harm. Sometimes when I pay for things I see plenty of methods to choose from which I've never heard of but usually just go for the PayPal option (uggh). I would love to pay with bitcoin but PP is the easiest thing currently but now people wont even have the option to pay in btc and will likely lose them business from bitcoiners.

It is simple psychology - if you have 100 options for a meal then the average person is going to take a longer longer to decide then if you have say 2 options.

Each second of indecision is likely to be a "lost sale" (i.e. moved on to another website).


I don't like what you explained but, unfortunately, you are tremendously right.
No care for customers, just for their money.
And the day they'll start accepting BTC again on the platform they'll probably reply that they tried it first.

So sad
sr. member
Activity: 300
Merit: 250
February 23, 2015, 11:17:21 AM
#17
I don't understand how having the option to pay in bitcoin will do them any harm.

Merchants want to keep checkout page simple and focused as much as possible. Studies has shown that lots of sales was lost in checkout page. Unfortunately in this case Bitcoin tab is an unnecessary thing which can confuse customers. Amount of sales they get via Bitcoin is so few and not worth to keep.

Solution ? Everyone need to spend their coins so merchants can have a reason to keep this payment option. You can do both spending and hodling. Since buying BTC with credit card is pretty easy in US, you can buy on the Coinbase or Circle to compensate the amount of coins you're going to spend on something.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 104
February 23, 2015, 11:13:52 AM
#16
I don't understand how having the option to pay in bitcoin will do them any harm. Sometimes when I pay for things I see plenty of methods to choose from which I've never heard of but usually just go for the PayPal option (uggh). I would love to pay with bitcoin but PP is the easiest thing currently but now people wont even have the option to pay in btc and will likely lose them business from bitcoiners.

It is simple psychology - if you have 100 options for a meal then the average person is going to take a longer longer to decide then if you have say 2 options.

Each second of indecision is likely to be a "lost sale" (i.e. moved on to another website).


I doubt it means a lost sale. They don't have 100 options, but only about 4-5 . And if you see the option, that you would like to pay through , then thats one more extra sale.
full member
Activity: 196
Merit: 104
February 23, 2015, 11:12:38 AM
#15
I wonder what made them do this. Maybe pressure from other payment companies.
legendary
Activity: 1890
Merit: 1086
Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
February 23, 2015, 11:12:22 AM
#14
I don't understand how having the option to pay in bitcoin will do them any harm. Sometimes when I pay for things I see plenty of methods to choose from which I've never heard of but usually just go for the PayPal option (uggh). I would love to pay with bitcoin but PP is the easiest thing currently but now people wont even have the option to pay in btc and will likely lose them business from bitcoiners.

It is simple psychology - if you have 100 options for a meal then the average person is going to take a longer longer to decide then if you have say 2 options.

Each second of indecision is likely to be a "lost sale" (i.e. moved on to another website).
sr. member
Activity: 274
Merit: 250
February 23, 2015, 11:10:35 AM
#13
This sucks, a lot of people are withdrawing from bitcoin.
hero member
Activity: 500
Merit: 500
February 23, 2015, 11:08:05 AM
#12
Have they given a reason why? Is it possible they just removed it temporarily?

Quite likely they have simply have had so little business from it that they have decided it just isn't worth having.  Every extra "option" (be it payment or otherwise) is something that makes your website just that little more confusing to the masses so if it isn't bringing in any real extra profit then it would be sensible to remove it in order to keep your UI as simple as possible (why do you think credit cards have basically just been reduced to the two options over the years).


I don't understand how having the option to pay in bitcoin will do them any harm. Sometimes when I pay for things I see plenty of methods to choose from which I've never heard of but usually just go for the PayPal option (uggh). I would love to pay with bitcoin but PP is the easiest thing currently but now people wont even have the option to pay in btc and will likely lose them business from bitcoiners.
legendary
Activity: 1148
Merit: 1014
In Satoshi I Trust
February 23, 2015, 11:00:59 AM
#11
sad move, i thought they are true believers  Undecided

credit card and paypal just suck! of course not alot of people pay with bitcoin BECAUSE there are LESS THAN 1 mio in the whole world who have some BTC !
legendary
Activity: 1890
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Ian Knowles - CIYAM Lead Developer
February 23, 2015, 10:46:27 AM
#10
And again with Wikipedia it is simply not surprising - too many options don't look good and as probably only a very fraction of a percent of their donations would have come from Bitcoin there is no reason to have it cluttering up their main donation page.

The reason is that people over-hyped Bitcoin and haven't realised it is not very useful for payments at all (apart from transferring large sums of money between countries which is the one major area it actually hasn't even been commercially used for despite being most suitable for).

I recall back in 2012 (or maybe even late 2011) seeing Amir trying to say that it could be used for "micro-payments" with Gavin having to say "ahh - no" to that in the same interview (and of course it is totally useless for that purpose).

Also non-reversible payments might be a great thing for vendors but 99% of consumers are going to stick with reversible credit card payments (and don't see the costs anyway as they are generally hidden by the vendor).

It should also be noted that in China the credit card companies charge the vendors only 1% generally (much lower than in the US) so Bitcoin is *never* going to work as a payment system here (and they basically have pretty much irreversible payments via Alipay anyway).
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
February 23, 2015, 10:43:45 AM
#9
In the past, we always heard some companies accepted Bitcoin as payment option, but now, what we hear is they are removing Bitcoin!  Cry
sr. member
Activity: 300
Merit: 250
February 23, 2015, 10:42:03 AM
#8
Wikipedia was one. They removed Bitcoin as a donation option. I'm not sure if its back now or not.


Wikipedia is still accepting Bitcoin donation, but we can't see this option in main donation page. To use Bitcoin, you need to click into the tiny link "Other ways to give" at the bottom of the page to this link: https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give
hero member
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February 23, 2015, 10:37:08 AM
#7
I was recently thinking about using them to host a simple website. This is the second time a company has stopped accepting Bitcoin right before I'm about to buy their shit and I don't have a credit card, Bitcoin is the only way I can pay. Oh well, hopefully it's just a temporary thing.

Yeah let's hope it's temporary thing .
By the way , what is this second copany that stopped using Bitcoin ? Wordpress is the first I heard off to be honest.

~ Madness

Wikipedia was one. They removed Bitcoin as a donation option. I'm not sure if its back now or not.

The company I was thinking of was a small dedicated server company in Belgium that I wanted to rent a server off, they removed Bitcoin as an option after the first month of service, right as I was planning to upgrade the server to a more expensive one and use it for a production env.
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