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Topic: Wordpress.com just deleted the Willy Report, evidence of Mt. Gox fraud - page 2. (Read 2966 times)

legendary
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The question is who had Wordpress' ear when the request was made for the take-down, for surely they didn't stumble upon the URL themselves via some "Willie" search, albeit an argument could be made.
legendary
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http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/05/27/mt-gox-willy-bot-report-suspended-from-wordpress/

Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?

Dude, that report shows MtGox database info which was Hacked from MtGox. It's illegal my friend to have that information and they could of gotten sued. That's why it was taken down...

Yeah, this is what I was thinking as well. Just sharing input and such wouldn't get a ToS violation. Sharing leaked documents (financial especially) would.
hero member
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Nope..
Given the ongoing civil litigation (and possibly criminal, though nobody will confirm that), there was probably a gag order requested by either side.  Most likely, the party requesting it sent a copy signed by a magistrate with jurisdiction (federal) to wordpress.  Wordpress is reasonable in taking it down if this was the case.  It's not their fight.  Let the attorneys scramble all over the web trying to suppress the other sources as well.  Makes for an interesting (futile) adventure.
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http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/05/27/mt-gox-willy-bot-report-suspended-from-wordpress/

Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?

Dude, that report shows MtGox database info which was Hacked from MtGox. It's illegal my friend to have that information and they could of gotten sued. That's why it was taken down...
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it's very odd that it would get taken down for a terms of service violation. has anyone speculated as to what the breach may have been? i racked my brain a bit, and i'm really coming up empty. it's true...why would they possibly care? or... dun dun dun -- who would have pressured them?

If they got a cease and desist from somebody's lawyer they might've just complied with it without looking into whether it actually violated any terms or not. I would like to know what it apparently violated though.
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torrent here:

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legendary
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Here you go, I found a link that rehosted the article. Copy this one before it gets taken down as well:

http://bitleaks.net/willyreport.html
legendary
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I guess, he published it on WordPress because he knew it would be taken down eventually and didn't want, that this influences his blog.

Could also be that I am referring to the wrong person (and I am)... like I said, I have been ill and not firing on all cylinders Wink .

Neil
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Something I thought odd when the article was published (and I am not saying that this is the reason), David Gilson (the author of the article) is quite a prolific blogger, you can find his blog here;-

http://davidgilson.co.uk/blog/

Yet if you do a search of his blog (http://davidgilson.co.uk/?s=willy) nothing.  I have been a bit ill of late or I would have done a bit further digging.

Neil
I guess, he published it on WordPress because he knew it would be taken down eventually and didn't want, that this influences his blog.
legendary
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I think I downloaded it as pdf on one of my computers if anyone wants. Or if allot of people still want to read it, someone should just copy and paste the whole thing to this thread..,
legendary
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Something I thought odd when the article was published (and I am not saying that this is the reason), David Gilson (the author of the article) is quite a prolific blogger, you can find his blog here;-

http://davidgilson.co.uk/blog/

Yet if you do a search of his blog (http://davidgilson.co.uk/?s=willy) nothing.  I have been a bit ill of late or I would have done a bit further digging.

Neil
legendary
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The wordpress TOS is a swamp. Very easy to violate as it's just a bunch of generic rubbish and lots of "rubber rules".
legendary
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It's been taken down, but don't worry I've already seen the article get rehosted several times. I'll search for those links, other than the cached from google.
legendary
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The cache is still available, so I suggest somebody(s) capture as much as possible and self-host the content using a Wordpress theme.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gwUebRBBbrMJ:willyreport.wordpress.com/2014/05/25/the-willy-report-proof-of-massive-fraudulent-trading-activity-at-mt-gox-and-how-it-has-affected-the-price-of-bitcoin/+&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

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PS: BTW, I just discovered who Satoshi Nakamoto is if you're interested and want to weigh-in on the poll. https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/debunked-definitive-proof-that-satoshi-nakamoto-is-james-a-donald-628344
legendary
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The fact that they suspended the account is just dumb, i hope it gets posted somewhere else, blogspot. Maybe somebody from gox had something to do with this.

Should we blame Brock Pierce and Sunlot Holdings secretly working with Mark?
...or...
Do you hear the Bitcoin Foundation had the article removed?   .......lol?
legendary
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it's very odd that it would get taken down for a terms of service violation. has anyone speculated as to what the breach may have been? i racked my brain a bit, and i'm really coming up empty. it's true...why would they possibly care? or... dun dun dun -- who would have pressured them?

Thinking about this more, didn't they link to or hint as to how to get the leaked Gox documents? If so, this could be seen as a liability for WP (being that they could be sued) and that may be what sparked it. Just speculation, obviously.
sr. member
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http://www.coinbuzz.com/2014/05/27/mt-gox-willy-bot-report-suspended-from-wordpress/

Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?

A twist in the plot
To further confound us all, the WordPress account that hosted the Willy Report has been “archived or suspended” due to violations of Wordpress terms of service.

^^^The article doesn't say/speculate which "Terms of Service" were violated.
I wonder if the author will post it somewhere else soon?

The fact that they suspended the account is just dumb, i hope it gets posted somewhere else, blogspot. Maybe somebody from gox had something to do with this.
hero member
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it's very odd that it would get taken down for a terms of service violation. has anyone speculated as to what the breach may have been? i racked my brain a bit, and i'm really coming up empty. it's true...why would they possibly care? or... dun dun dun -- who would have pressured them?
legendary
Activity: 1988
Merit: 1007
Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?

Well seeing as they haven't actually specified why the Willy report was taken down you can't really say it was or wasn't justified. If there is nothing else at play - ie no real breakage of the Wordpress TOS then I would be suspecting some kind of foul play, but realistically I'm not convinced of an affiliation between Gox and Wordpress. Much more likely something went wrong and they took it down.

I'm with you on this. My first question is why Wordpress would care about what was said about Gox. They wouldn't.

There must have been a deeper reason (unrelated to all of this) as to why it was done. Who ran Willy Report? Someone should ask them for more information.
hero member
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Was WordPress.com's decision justified? Is there something they are trying to hide?

Well seeing as they haven't actually specified why the Willy report was taken down you can't really say it was or wasn't justified. If there is nothing else at play - ie no real breakage of the Wordpress TOS then I would be suspecting some kind of foul play, but realistically I'm not convinced of an affiliation between Gox and Wordpress. Much more likely something went wrong and they took it down.
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