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NOTHING, his book is a joke, I call it a joke the last time I read it, I still call it a joke today, his book has never improved or worth reading, fullstop.
It may have nothing but still, he managed to sell them and become a millionaire so either you are too stubborn to hear anything other than you want or too naive...

The book is about telling the difference between two different mindsets in society and accept it or not it clearly helped to get better picture for lot of people but you can't become rich by doing what he did, you need to find your own and for the record you will never become financially independent as long as you are working for a salary.

I'm not saying his book is bad, but I'm trying to be make it clear what I feel about his books, obviously his book is a spot on to American society pre dot com bubble 2000, where most American are hardest working class who work really hard for money but ignore everything else just like what it is described in the book about poor dad, I mean American used to be the world leader in everything before the dot com bubble, they work very hard to achieve the American Dream. His book is a perfect complimentary addition to them, because the American by the time work so hard for money yet they could not stop working, they get confused, they get savage, they feel cheated, they are unable to understand "what am I fighting for!" mmx4 chorus kicking in meme, obviously the rich dad poor dad come in handy to the rescue, after reading the book, they can finally see the answer to their problem, and they can finally know what they are after in life, But for loser like me obviously there is nothing else I can gain from his book, so I do not need to know anything more from a guy named kiyosaki, his book might be best fit to winner who get lost in life purpose and want their puzzle answered.
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The need to work hard and often is driven by things like economic pressures, rising costs of living & and the pursuit of financial stability contribute to the necessity of working long hours. There are some ways to make life better. Prioritising work to life balance, setting boundaries & and practicing self care can help reduce stress & improve overall well being. You could explore alternative sources of income, try to pursue passions & hobbies & form strong social connections to enhance fulfilment & make life more enjoyable. It is important to find a balance between work & personal life to create a better quality of life.
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NOTHING, his book is a joke, I call it a joke the last time I read it, I still call it a joke today, his book has never improved or worth reading, fullstop.
It may have nothing but still, he managed to sell them and become a millionaire so either you are too stubborn to hear anything other than you want or too naive...

The book is about telling the difference between two different mindsets in society and accept it or not it clearly helped to get better picture for lot of people but you can't become rich by doing what he did, you need to find your own and for the record you will never become financially independent as long as you are working for a salary.

Like you said, the mindset is the most important thing here. Even when you are working for a salary, you need to pretend like the company is your customer.  Tongue You need to think like a businessman. If you embrace the wage-slave situation, then obviously you will never find a way out. The author we are talking about also worked for Xerox for a while before he started his own empire.

Not everyone is born as rich even if they did they don't get any inheritance from their parents so they need capital and experience to start anything for that we may have to work for a salary even though if we realize its the modern-day slavery then we need to save it enough to kick start what we have in mind and execute all the things we wanted perfectly.
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I once compared something quite similar to our current lives, as chickens that are raised in captivity and fed until they are big enough to be killed to provide food. Although it sounds negative, it reflects the current lives of many people. The tension in today's society is inevitable, but the pressures of life from food, work, and family,... the only difference is that we are humans, so we know more things.

A few years ago, when I decided to quit my job at a technology company in the city to return to the countryside for a more peaceful life, it was not an escape from the complexities of society, but I felt a truth about the meaning of each person's life. Each of us is born with our own destiny, and the current situation is just a challenge for us to think about and overcome towards a better development of life awareness. Maybe sometimes the complexity of life's perspective causes chaos to last forever, and the next generations continue to experience it. It is a truth that I feel that life is truly suffering, so finding a way to get rid of it is the reason that I think a long life is ideal. Actually, I learned this in Buddhism, the religion in which I really believe that everything in life is answered, of course it is not faith-based like many other religions that I know, but I feel the truth stated.
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i would say that the capitalistic system of our society has pushed individuals to go beyond their limits it is greed that drives them forward and makes them think that they can overwork themselves until they get whatever it is that they want sometimes it is a need that makes them work really hard maybe they need more money to help their family but also sometimes some people just care too much about what other people think that they don’t want to appear weak or less successful

in this case, it is up to the individual to help themselves get out of this mindset or way of living
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Some people are workerholicks by nature, they will keep on working and working till it turned them to something else and at the end they will leave the work and other's will continue from there, such is life because some have been doing same right before we started and some will also continue after us when we are not there or available anymore to continue, we should be careful of not getting overworked that we don't have the strength to do more in the future.
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NOTHING, his book is a joke, I call it a joke the last time I read it, I still call it a joke today, his book has never improved or worth reading, fullstop.
It may have nothing but still, he managed to sell them and become a millionaire so either you are too stubborn to hear anything other than you want or too naive...

The book is about telling the difference between two different mindsets in society and accept it or not it clearly helped to get better picture for lot of people but you can't become rich by doing what he did, you need to find your own and for the record you will never become financially independent as long as you are working for a salary.

Like you said, the mindset is the most important thing here. Even when you are working for a salary, you need to pretend like the company is your customer.  Tongue You need to think like a businessman. If you embrace the wage-slave situation, then obviously you will never find a way out. The author we are talking about also worked for Xerox for a while before he started his own empire.
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When you’re caught in the day to day grind it can feel like you’re trapped or even enslaved. I think the way out is to save money and then start a business doing something you love. Then work won’t feel like a trap. Instead it will feel like you’re doing what you love to do with your life. It can be hard and not everyone will make it, but maybe you owe it to yourself to try.

Personally I have made a few moves to get out of the "rat race". I dont have ant FIAT
loans, credit cards or mortgages, I have a part time job and the rest of the time is
for myself. I did this approximately 3 months ago and reaping the rewards of it now.

In my country so many people are using Cocaine to be able to function at work,
its gotten to the stage where parents of young children are finding they need to
use in order to deal with the pressures of work, parenting, socialising and all the
pressures of keeping up appearances.
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NOTHING, his book is a joke, I call it a joke the last time I read it, I still call it a joke today, his book has never improved or worth reading, fullstop.
It may have nothing but still, he managed to sell them and become a millionaire so either you are too stubborn to hear anything other than you want or too naive...

The book is about telling the difference between two different mindsets in society and accept it or not it clearly helped to get better picture for lot of people but you can't become rich by doing what he did, you need to find your own and for the record you will never become financially independent as long as you are working for a salary.
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I hate to say this, folks won't stop working, won't stop the trajectory, won't stop the line goes up, won't stop the performance trajectory, folks begin to overdose drug to increase efficiency,


If you don't have the privilege to take breaks just like most of people then we have no other choice, economic stability is important too for an average person. They can't afford to take breaks from the job because there will always be someone waiting for that spot to get replaced so if you take breaks then you need to start all over again and again that is not smart.

This is the problem we are facing in the society. Everything is already designed to work that way and if you don’t want to do it, they have plenty of people willing to take over the job. For you not to feel left out or feared of being sacked, drugging the body for more performance will be the next thing to do which is causing more harm to the body. Going for drug to prove to your employee that you can do the work better is not the best thing to do, your body needs rest and when it is calling for one you should give it instead of adding substance to your body system to show that you can perform more than what your body can give.
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You need to work on a “FIRE” (financially independent, retire early) plan if you want to get out of the rat race. The sooner you start working on it the earlier you can stop working. The basic idea is generating passive income from your investments and live off of it. When your passive income is more than your expenses, you can retire early. If you want to be on the safer side, work till you double your targeted passive income. Cutting your expenses is also a legit way of reaching your goals faster. For example you don’t need to drive a Benz, or live in a big house. These create liabilities and liabilities eat away your income. They make you poor. The less liabilities and more income producing assets you have, the richer you will be.

Robert Kiyosaki has a fantastic book which explains the details. Read it.

I dont care about the guy named kiyosaki tbh, if there is anything I would like to say, he is scammer who sell books to get rich, no better than WB, btw I had read a couple of his books I know clearly what is his intention in his books, I do not need anymore content from his books, most of the content in his books has zero substances, there is only one thing I could say about his book, his book and his success can be easily duplicate by playing monopoly board game but for some reason American is so lazy they do not even brother playing to win a board game, they rather someone write a book full of non-sense to explain the ins-and-outs of a board game, where they could finally find the excuse to blame the author for writing a book, organizing seminar and pyramid schemes and get rich quick scheme, making thing hyper complicated, so is there anything you think I can gain from his book, I tell you again, NOTHING, his book is a joke, I call it a joke the last time I read it, I still call it a joke today, his book has never improved or worth reading, fullstop.

Well, he is a book seller, of course he is trying to sell more books. What do you expect from him? That doesn't mean that he is a scammer though. According to your logic, every book author is a scammer...

It is sad if you feel that way. I already told you the main idea of the book anyway and looks like you already read it since you know about the board game stuff.

You may hate the guy but what he said is common sense and it is all true.

You need to have more passive income than your expenses... How could this idea be wrong or stupid? If you can't meet these conditions then I am sorry but you will work till you break because living costs money. Unless you find a way to pay for these expenses without working, that's how it is gonna be forever.

I bought the book, read it and I am glad I did. (I read many other books too, not from this author though)  Even though I knew about most of the stuff he tells in the book, it strengthened my position.

Real wealth comes from the assets you own, not from the cash you own. Hoard assets, simple. There is nothing complicated with that.
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You need to work on a “FIRE” (financially independent, retire early) plan if you want to get out of the rat race. The sooner you start working on it the earlier you can stop working. The basic idea is generating passive income from your investments and live off of it. When your passive income is more than your expenses, you can retire early. If you want to be on the safer side, work till you double your targeted passive income. Cutting your expenses is also a legit way of reaching your goals faster. For example you don’t need to drive a Benz, or live in a big house. These create liabilities and liabilities eat away your income. They make you poor. The less liabilities and more income producing assets you have, the richer you will be.

Robert Kiyosaki has a fantastic book which explains the details. Read it.

I dont care about the guy named kiyosaki tbh, if there is anything I would like to say, he is scammer who sell books to get rich, no better than WB, btw I had read a couple of his books I know clearly what is his intention in his books, I do not need anymore content from his books, most of the content in his books has zero substances, there is only one thing I could say about his book, his book and his success can be easily duplicate by playing monopoly board game but for some reason American is so lazy they do not even brother playing to win a board game, they rather someone write a book full of non-sense to explain the ins-and-outs of a board game, where they could finally find the excuse to blame the author for writing a book, organizing seminar and pyramid schemes and get rich quick scheme, making thing hyper complicated, so is there anything you think I can gain from his book, I tell you again, NOTHING, his book is a joke, I call it a joke the last time I read it, I still call it a joke today, his book has never improved or worth reading, fullstop.
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Most person prefer working very much and hardly give themselves time to rest, they keep feeling at a time where you do nothing is you being a lazy person and would always want to keep themselves busy. Some are naturally strong to that extent why some of them would depend on drugs to give them thd ability to carry out such functions. There are so many disheartening effect of not taking rest from work as it can affect both mentally and physically like fatigue, anxiety and do many of them, the worst of adding drugs may be hard drugs or just taking excessive of pain relief drugs to ease from the over working is deadly and anyone suffering from this should be looked out for.
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You need to work on a “FIRE” (financially independent, retire early) plan if you want to get out of the rat race. The sooner you start working on it the earlier you can stop working. The basic idea is generating passive income from your investments and live off of it. When your passive income is more than your expenses, you can retire early. If you want to be on the safer side, work till you double your targeted passive income. Cutting your expenses is also a legit way of reaching your goals faster. For example you don’t need to drive a Benz, or live in a big house. These create liabilities and liabilities eat away your income. They make you poor. The less liabilities and more income producing assets you have, the richer you will be.

Robert Kiyosaki has a fantastic book which explains the details. Read it.
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Do you said many researches, do you have the research with you? do you mind to share them with me? I know those are very valuable piece of materials but I would to take a look, just an excerpt is more than enough not necessarily full content.

Just go through this article and you'll learn enough about the differences between natural and synthetic nutrition. Just give it a proper read you will understand that Nutritional supplements vs nutrition value in natural foods and you'll also find that our body accepts nutrients properly if they come from food.

You may also read this one Synthetic and Natural Nutritional Supplements: Health "Allies" or Risks to Public Health?


I hope you'll learn something by reading those articles.

Science can be proven in either ways and I do agree that nutrients coming from food is a good form of what we can get but what about the food we are eating, its no longer completely organic, and if it is then it won't be affordable for an average middle-class people. Medicine is like an instant solution for the conditions but most of the medicines never cure them, they just keep it as they are and we need to keep using it forever.
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Do you said many researches, do you have the research with you? do you mind to share them with me? I know those are very valuable piece of materials but I would to take a look, just an excerpt is more than enough not necessarily full content.

Just go through this article and you'll learn enough about the differences between natural and synthetic nutrition. Just give it a proper read you will understand that Nutritional supplements vs nutrition value in natural foods and you'll also find that our body accepts nutrients properly if they come from food.

You may also read this one Synthetic and Natural Nutritional Supplements: Health "Allies" or Risks to Public Health?


I hope you'll learn something by reading those articles.

It look like some article written by some random internet guy, honestly I would not want to read them unless they are verified, plus I'm very tired, I do not want to waste too much time and energy on something very trivial, show me something that has earned the reputations to be reliable, I means it can be leaded by a team, and the team are recognizable not some random guy on the internet, someone such as Saifedean who wrote the bitcoin standard book, and then I would read them.
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Do you said many researches, do you have the research with you? do you mind to share them with me? I know those are very valuable piece of materials but I would to take a look, just an excerpt is more than enough not necessarily full content.

Just go through this article and you'll learn enough about the differences between natural and synthetic nutrition. Just give it a proper read you will understand that Nutritional supplements vs nutrition value in natural foods and you'll also find that our body accepts nutrients properly if they come from food.

You may also read this one Synthetic and Natural Nutritional Supplements: Health "Allies" or Risks to Public Health?


I hope you'll learn something by reading those articles.
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I hate to say this, folks won't stop working, won't stop the trajectory, won't stop the line goes up, won't stop the performance trajectory, folks begin to overdose drug to increase efficiency,

It's a bad thing to always work and never have plans on when to rest or take some break off the work, the worst that they make to complicate the whole issue is to have an additional use of drugs on themselves for more performance, this is not to increase the work efficiency, but at the long run, we are rather depreciating it because we are forcing our body immune to over stress and over work tirelessly.
Exactly my point also,  because with my research and experiment on drug uasge to improve efficiency it has been discovered that many have been publicly misled into believing such statement that drug increases they efficiency and fhat have made them to increase they drug in take,  but on the long run,  this have slow down the performance and drained out their ability to think in the right direction and some even lose the memory due to high intake of drugs.

Sometimes,  it is far better to understand your body systems and try as much as possible to run your working time around that naturally available things like not working too much and also taking adequate rest in between because the long-term impact of drug usage may destroy the person quicker than the over work he is trying to fight over.
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Fine, I would define drug for you. Drug is not same as typical food because drug is a form of substance that is usually synthesized in the labs, thus you can call it man-made alternative to food or drink, which is in total contrast of nutrition or dietetic, the reason drug stand out is due to low cost, it is much cheaper to obtain derivative drug to the equivalent nutrition nature based derivative, thus most of the time we would get drug instead of actual food, we get medicine that is chemically synthesized instead of medicine that is extracted from actual fruit. On paper both drug and nutrition serve the same purpose of providing the same substance, for instance ascorbic acid, both can be chemically made or extract from actual food, but just make them in the labs, it is much cheaper and profitable and they are the same in paper so who care we just sell ascorbic acid, consumer do not care, they care the price, so is drug better than actual fruit equivalent, idk it is up to you to think, we can see with our own eyes time after time.

Finally, drug can be in the form of solid mass such as tablet, liquid such as juice, or capsule such as pill, we usually do not recommend overdosing drug but we recommend overdosing food or drink, make you think.

Those who try to take drugs in order to meet their daily nutrition requirements are misguided ones. The real nutrition is in the foods that we eat and it can't be copied in laboratory. The essential amino acids, vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients are present in food. When we consume different variety of foods we gain those essential nutrients but those who are thinking about getting those nutrients from chemical based alternatives or you can say drugs are misguided. The fresh food gives us far more nutrients and those nutriments are helpful for us as they improve our health.

We can surely get some of those nutrients in drug form but I believe that they won't be much helpful or healthy at all. In fact it has been proven by many researches or you can say real life examples that food is way better than drugs because it has no side or adverse effects.

Btw most of my words is based on solely my very personal opinions, I do not have intensive research or study to back my points, most of them are completely based on my very own opinions and I do not refering to anyone or anything else when writing them, as you can see they are only good for joking around, just an information that may be meant to provide competent and reliable to some people, I held no responsibilities to misguiding or mistakes, I even doubt whether my definition is adequately written as it contain as many as possible made belief point but hold absolutely zero substance, you can say I may be just selling story that has no substance, of course I would like to see your response, some of you are quite knowledgable so I would be more than happy to heard from you where I can make improvement. btw you must be quite generalize to outright conclude some point above, are you have any solid proof or you just assume them because it make you look great?

Do you said many researches, do you have the research with you? do you mind to share them with me? I know those are very valuable piece of materials but I would to take a look, just an excerpt is more than enough not necessarily full content.
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Fine, I would define drug for you. Drug is not same as typical food because drug is a form of substance that is usually synthesized in the labs, thus you can call it man-made alternative to food or drink, which is in total contrast of nutrition or dietetic, the reason drug stand out is due to low cost, it is much cheaper to obtain derivative drug to the equivalent nutrition nature based derivative, thus most of the time we would get drug instead of actual food, we get medicine that is chemically synthesized instead of medicine that is extracted from actual fruit. On paper both drug and nutrition serve the same purpose of providing the same substance, for instance ascorbic acid, both can be chemically made or extract from actual food, but just make them in the labs, it is much cheaper and profitable and they are the same in paper so who care we just sell ascorbic acid, consumer do not care, they care the price, so is drug better than actual fruit equivalent, idk it is up to you to think, we can see with our own eyes time after time.

Finally, drug can be in the form of solid mass such as tablet, liquid such as juice, or capsule such as pill, we usually do not recommend overdosing drug but we recommend overdosing food or drink, make you think.

Those who try to take drugs in order to meet their daily nutrition requirements are misguided ones. The real nutrition is in the foods that we eat and it can't be copied in laboratory. The essential amino acids, vitamins, minerals, and other nutrients are present in food. When we consume different variety of foods we gain those essential nutrients but those who are thinking about getting those nutrients from chemical based alternatives or you can say drugs are misguided. The fresh food gives us far more nutrients and those nutriments are helpful for us as they improve our health.

We can surely get some of those nutrients in drug form but I believe that they won't be much helpful or healthy at all. In fact it has been proven by many researches or you can say real life examples that food is way better than drugs because it has no side or adverse effects.
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