World War III... Is it about to Happen?

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US pulling out its Cold War-era plans over Ukraine conflict, top commander admits
http://rt.com/usa/175596-dempsey-ukraine-cold-war/

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The United States military’s top commander said during a security summit this week that the ongoing crisis in eastern Ukraine has prompted the Pentagon to revisit old contingency plans unused since the days of the Cold War.

Now, seeing as US started the whole bloody (literally) mess in Ukraine, they simply showed now that they were itching to play with those plans again...

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Quote from: iflewtoday32 on July 25, 2014, 04:11:09 AM

I don't see it happening mainly due to Russia. They would likely be the spark to cause it but the people at the top in Russia are so filthy rich with their current corrupt system they have really nothing to benefit and everything to lose.

Just like Russia had everything to lose from entering WWI, yet it was dragged into it, and we all know the consequences (USSR for one, and Russia, that started to become an industrial country well on the way to constitutional monarchy, being thrown back decades in its development). Nothing is here to stop the history from repeating itself.

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I don't see it happening mainly due to Russia. They would likely be the spark to cause it but the people at the top in Russia are so filthy rich with their current corrupt system they have really nothing to benefit and everything to lose.

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Quote from: Tusk on July 24, 2014, 01:03:49 PM

Something to consider is that as the world becomes more integrated, the relevance for government diminishes. Look at Europe you can drive trough without border controls etc.
The more free trade that occurs the less the need for military, I have a real sense that the industrial military complex saw the writing on the wall and is in many cases is engineering this insane instability to justify the need for government and themselves.

Creating instability to justify the need for more government - quite possibly. But the lack of border control in Europe has got nothing to do with diminishing government, its because we've buit a whole extra, less democratic, less open, and less accountable layer of government above the national one (the European Union), and they are gradually shifting power away from national government and towards this 'higher' level of government. It began as a free trade area, so its sort of like NAFTA telling the US that they aren't allowed to control immigration with Mexico any more because NAFTA is more important than America.

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Something to consider is that as the world becomes more integrated, the relevance for government diminishes. Look at Europe you can drive trough without border controls etc.
The more free trade that occurs the less the need for military, I have a real sense that the industrial military complex saw the writing on the wall and is in many cases is engineering this insane instability to justify the need for government and themselves.

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I think some people in high places miss the cold war but couldn't bring it back, so we're now going to have a 20 year long 'luke warm war' instead; there will be more actual fighting, but nobody will take it quite as seriously.

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The Global Unraveling Of Flight MH-17

Published on Jul 23, 2014
Alex talks with Michel Chossudovsky, an award-winning author, professor of economics (emeritus) at the University of Ottawa, founder and director of the Center for Research on Globalization, and editor of the globalresearch.ca website. Alex and Mr. Chossudovsky talk about the downing of MH-17 and the effort to frame Russia and the separatists in Ukraine who are attempting to free themselves from the grasp of the quasi-fascist government installed in Kiev by the U.S. State Department.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJhhuVnWXVk

Usually I find Alex Jones to be a bit too hysterical, but this is one of his better casts, with some very sobering insights about our corporate media and the industrial war complex its quiet chilling.

"we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military–industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist. We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals so that security and liberty may prosper together." - -US President Dwight Eisenhower

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I don't think it is likely to happen

DodoB

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At some point it will have to happen. there is to much unresolved conflicts and problems in the world that will blow up evantually.

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Quote from: mcculum0010 on July 22, 2014, 02:10:35 PM

We only entering the first phase the next phase will be war with missiles and drones and the last phase will be nuclear/EMP/Biological and would be catostropic. A war not seen before and possibly could end the world as we know it.

That is a rather cynical view.

I see the missles and nukes are used as threats and bargaining chips rather than as weapons. The war nowadays are economic powers playing "the good guy" role bribing weaker powers for their voice (or silence) in the UN, bullying the weaker "bad guys".

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Quote from: Baitty on July 23, 2014, 08:37:54 AM

Quote from: jbrnt on July 22, 2014, 01:40:47 PM

We are already at war. The war is not fought with armies and tanks, but trade and economics, energy and resources, electronics and intelligence, politics and allies. Just look at Russia and China, they are aggressively expanding their boarders.

That's true and most tank wars etc are started by economics of different countries and that will always be the case.

Tank wars are a way to show intellectual diminishing. It's like starting to punch an opponent in a debate.
Economics are the outcome of culture, in the long run a culture with more brain power will overcome the slack cultures and will become richer.
Then sometimes, more than desirable, these weak cultures instead of try to improve their own brain power to compete, tries to be patronized and play "victim" to eventually militarily attack the other.

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Quote from: jbrnt on July 22, 2014, 01:40:47 PM

We are already at war. The war is not fought with armies and tanks, but trade and economics, energy and resources, electronics and intelligence, politics and allies. Just look at Russia and China, they are aggressively expanding their boarders.

That's true and most tank wars etc are started by economics of different countries and that will always be the case.

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Quote from: BCEmporium on July 22, 2014, 02:11:53 PM

Quote from: jbrnt on July 22, 2014, 01:40:47 PM

We are already at war. The war is not fought with armies and tanks, but trade and economics, energy and resources, electronics and intelligence, politics and allies. Just look at Russia and China, they are aggressively expanding their boarders.

We will always be at that war, and that's a good thing. Brain wars are to be hailed!

Armies, tanks and bombs are the ones to be avoided.

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Quote from: jbrnt on July 22, 2014, 01:40:47 PM

We are already at war. The war is not fought with armies and tanks, but trade and economics, energy and resources, electronics and intelligence, politics and allies. Just look at Russia and China, they are aggressively expanding their boarders.

We will always be at that war, and that's a good thing. Brain wars are to be hailed!

Armies, tanks and bombs are the ones to be avoided.

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Quote from: jbrnt on July 22, 2014, 01:40:47 PM

We are already at war. The war is not fought with armies and tanks, but trade and economics, energy and resources, electronics and intelligence, politics and allies. Just look at Russia and China, they are aggressively expanding their boarders.

We only entering the first phase the next phase will be war with missiles and drones and the last phase will be nuclear/EMP/Biological and would be catostropic. A war not seen before and possibly could end the world as we know it.

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Quote from: Ab-Soul on July 22, 2014, 01:43:32 PM

First, big economies should break down and when WW3 happens, it will be the biggest rise of Bitcoin.

You are right, Germanys economy is much too strong to start a new world war.. maybe the US will start this time, we seem to be preparing for it.

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First, big economies should break down and when WW3 happens, it will be the biggest rise of Bitcoin.

jbrnt

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We are already at war. The war is not fought with armies and tanks, but trade and economics, energy and resources, electronics and intelligence, politics and allies. Just look at Russia and China, they are aggressively expanding their boarders.

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#Free market

I don't know but .... I hope not!

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Quote from: bitsmichel on July 22, 2014, 01:34:00 PM

Quote from: beetcoin on July 22, 2014, 01:28:20 PM

Quote from: bryant.coleman on July 22, 2014, 01:24:54 PM

Quote from: beetcoin on July 22, 2014, 01:11:38 PM

yeah that's the new model since world war 2.. it's better/more efficient to play economic wars and sanctions than it is to send ground troops to their death. problem with proxy wars in the middle east is that there are so many factions that might turn on you, so you could be wasting your money on giving them those arms and training.

Even if some of the factions turn against you, you can recruit some other faction to wage the war for you. No matter how powerful these factions are, they can't survive without outside support.

it's not like the US is the only outside support. they could go to U.S. enemies and ask for funding, like russia. who is ISIS backed by now? i believe it is now the saudis? and china is slowly becoming a world power.. i wouldn't be surprised to see it play the proxy war game. and syria seems to have an alliance with russia.

Of course, Russia doesn't want Bin Ladens near it's border so they support the present Syrian government. Russia has many allies and are still an enormously powerful country. If it wasn't, the US would be invading instead of sanctions.

i doubt the U.S. would be invading. since WW2, i can't recall of a developed nation trying to invade another developed nation (then again, russia did it to the ukraine.. but there's so much media attention on it). russia is certainly powerful especially with its oil exports, but i think a bigger deterrent is that it has nuclear weapons and capabilities.

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