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September 13, 2022, 04:55:34 AM
#46
Monero had strong base like the Litecoin,So it was expected to be the next Litecoin.Most of the people holding Monero more than 2 years.When the market of bitcoin back to the normal price,surely their will some good rise in the price of Monero.It was expected to have some good value on Monero in upcoming year of 2023.Cashing out of Monero during the dump is not a good move for now.
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September 13, 2022, 04:11:54 AM
#45
monero is a privacy coin. it should be different with mixing services but just in case it looks like we will have to switch from monero in the near future. if asked what's good other than monero in terms of privacy I don't think there is. The only coin that has become an iconic privacy coin is Monero.
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September 13, 2022, 03:55:33 AM
#44
Government cannot control the network and they knew it that is why they are pressuring centralized exchanges and other crypto-related comapanies to succumb to their demand
There is a great number of projects that allow at least to purchase cryptocurrencies.But what about anonymity? I mean NO KYC Crypton exchange https://crp.is/ from the Utopia p2p project .
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September 13, 2022, 03:49:03 AM
#43
I'd like to see what comes of any attempt to regulate or even ban privacy coins.  Maybe some people would be scared away if laws were passed, but good coins like XMR will still thrive by those whose passions are crypto and privacy, and they'll do so knowing there's not a damn thing any gov't can do to shut down XMR's blockchain.

I have no pretenses about having expertise in cyber surveillance, but from what I've heard of Monero it would be very hard if not impossible to trace transactions.  That's all worry about what might happen.  We'll see what actually happens.

Alternatives?  I wouldn't bother, honestly.  Look at coins like PIVX or Firo and you'll see that there's a much higher degree of centralization because of features XMR doesn't have, e.g. masternodes or staking, the existence of a DAO, etc.  I've listened to that guy Reuben talk about Firo as though he's the CEO of the coin.  Any time you have a coin where there's any voting involved, watch out.
I have another exchange where you can buy Monero. This exchange cannot be banned or blocked. Moreover, no personal data is needed to use it. I'm talking about the Crypton Exchange https://crp.is/  from the Utopia p2p. This is NO KYC project. I think that says it all.
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September 05, 2022, 05:52:27 PM
#42
I think that no matter how hard the government wants to control cryptocurrencies they can't. It's just the owner of Monero who is too soft on the government, if he stays low profile and anonymous, surely the government will not be able to track and investigate him. I still believe that now and in the future cryptocurrency will not be controlled by the government.
I believe that government cannot have any control over cryptocurrency any government that is disturbing cryptocurrency the government cannot achieve anything from each the only thing they normally do is that they ban legalization of cryptocurrency in that particular country many countries stop or do anything contrary about it but in order to stop cryptocurrency worldwide is not possible
They cant really do something if we do speak on technical aspects and this is why they do really just go into the part on where they would be banning it out and make out some
strict and tight regulations into those platforms or businesses that do involved or attached with cryptocurrencies and we surely felt that since these platforms are the main places
on which people do make out conversions from crypto to fiat which means that whenever they do ask out for some kyc compliance then you would really be ending up on having
no choice but to deal with it but there are still some platforms which doesnt still have that kind of set-up.
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September 05, 2022, 05:29:28 PM
#41
I'd like to see what comes of any attempt to regulate or even ban privacy coins.  Maybe some people would be scared away if laws were passed, but good coins like XMR will still thrive by those whose passions are crypto and privacy, and they'll do so knowing there's not a damn thing any gov't can do to shut down XMR's blockchain.

I have no pretenses about having expertise in cyber surveillance, but from what I've heard of Monero it would be very hard if not impossible to trace transactions.  That's all worry about what might happen.  We'll see what actually happens.

Alternatives?  I wouldn't bother, honestly.  Look at coins like PIVX or Firo and you'll see that there's a much higher degree of centralization because of features XMR doesn't have, e.g. masternodes or staking, the existence of a DAO, etc.  I've listened to that guy Reuben talk about Firo as though he's the CEO of the coin.  Any time you have a coin where there's any voting involved, watch out.
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September 05, 2022, 09:41:31 AM
#40
I've already asked in this section what could be a good alternative to Monero, but I haven't specified the reason of my question, so literally everybody were wondering why I was looking for an alternative despite having such a good platform like XMR.

The reason is that future regulations scare me a little bit, specially privacy limitations, they've already wiped out Tornado Cash and Blender, because "they are perfect for money laundering".

Their next target will be privacy coins, more specifically Monero, and nobody will change my mind, regulators already issued statements against Monero and I think it's only matter of time.

So, do you know any good alternatives to Monero?
If you are worried about monero, you are better off moving to another coin but if it is for profit, I think monero can still be profitable for you. But I don't know whether monero can go up very high or not because it will depend on the interests of investors or traders. So the real choice is yours and doesn't listen to other people's advice if you haven't found out because our suggestions may not work for you.
legendary
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September 05, 2022, 05:27:40 AM
#39


I immediately liked Monero when I first know it, but ever since the government influenced centralized exchanges to get rid of Monero. As a Monero user,
I panicked, seeing one by one exchanges started delisting Monero, therefore I better look for safety by not investing in Monero anymore. I'm also
not looking for other privacy coins alternatives, because I believe the other privacy coins will suffer the same fate as Monero. So like you said why are
we making it difficult for ourselves by forcing ourselves to use Monero at such a high risk. We'd better focus on investing in Bitcoin, which is enough
to protect our privacy, although not as good as Monero when it comes to privacy. But at least Bitcoin is very safe for investment.

That's right. There is no coin that is better than Monero when it comes to privacy, so we shouldn't waste our time trying to find one that is better.

Although bitcoin does not offer us better privacy than Monero, it also offers us the assurance that our privacy will be impenetrable, not to mention the fact that investing in bitcoin will be better than investing in XMR in terms of either return as well as the safety of our investment. Bitcoin is the perfect combination of privacy and return on investment, no altcoin can offer.
legendary
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September 05, 2022, 04:40:55 AM
#38
If you care about what your government says, you a pussy.
Only flaw monero has is it's mining power, which could theoretically be prone to a 51% attack because governments do have a LOT of power available.
It is in our hands to use part of our CPU to mine monero even if we don't get any block.
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September 05, 2022, 03:28:08 AM
#37
It is very strange that the authorities don't want us to use cryptocurrency with privacy such as Tornado cash.
I remember that Monero has been delisted from few crypto exchanges in 2021, but now they list Monero back.
In my opinion, cryptocurrency is a decentralized currency, centralized party such as authorities should not control it.

Strange? How? It was literally for money laundering reasons, and governments aren't controlling decentralized currencies, they are worried about fiat money pairs thay can be traded against it, and that's how they are controlling centralized exchanges, and any centralized companies that are enabling money laundering.

I am not sure about current situation for monero in terms of regulations and it could be a loophole how got it back to exchanges and could change any time. But the real issue with these currencies is that you have to have an option to prove the trail of money for FATF. It's called "travel rule" and if you haven't already googled it, you should.
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September 05, 2022, 01:42:40 AM
#36
This is why the best thing about it would be to stay away from it while all those bad people are there. Monero can't have one way or another, they can't just make it privacy oriented and let the bad people use it, but then try to keep bad people away, if you can money launder with the system they have, that is not going to be ok for exchanges or governments, and if they remove that, then they are no different from other coins.

I also like Monero but the government is pressuring exchanges to delist it, so I agree with you, better to abandon Monero and move to a transparent cryptocurrency.  No matter how they push Monero to be recognized and accepted by the Government unless they remove the privacy coins in it, it will never be accepted by the authority.


I think that no matter how hard the government wants to control cryptocurrencies they can't. It's just the owner of Monero who is too soft on the government, if he stays low profile and anonymous, surely the government will not be able to track and investigate him. I still believe that now and in the future cryptocurrency will not be controlled by the government.
Yes, I firmly believe the government will not control crypto. I think they can only control the companies.

Government cannot control the network and they knew it that is why they are pressuring centralized exchanges and other crypto-related comapanies to succumb to their demand

That is why Moreno cannot be accepted in all countries, if only they could change everything, at least from the system they have, and allow the government to control Moreno, it is not without reason that the government will support Moreno's growth, if the government cannot control it then it is very difficult, The thing that is feared is the existence of money laundering on a large scale, which makes the government unable to control its users.
sr. member
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September 05, 2022, 12:35:31 AM
#35
There is no doubt that Monero gave us perfect privacy, but unfortunately the government didn't like the idea. The government will not be able to interfere or destroy the monero network but they can destroy it by ordering all exchanges to delist it. This will lead to the monero in danger of disappearing.

In this case, I think you might want to switch to Bitcoin, I think it is a good enough option, it is not completely anonymous like monero, but you will never have problems with your privacy.

I immediately liked Monero when I first know it, but ever since the government influenced centralized exchanges to get rid of Monero. As a Monero user,
I panicked, seeing one by one exchanges started delisting Monero, therefore I better look for safety by not investing in Monero anymore. I'm also
not looking for other privacy coins alternatives, because I believe the other privacy coins will suffer the same fate as Monero. So like you said why are
we making it difficult for ourselves by forcing ourselves to use Monero at such a high risk. We'd better focus on investing in Bitcoin, which is enough
to protect our privacy, although not as good as Monero when it comes to privacy. But at least Bitcoin is very safe for investment.
legendary
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September 04, 2022, 08:20:38 PM
#34
I've already asked in this section what could be a good alternative to Monero, but I haven't specified the reason of my question, so literally everybody were wondering why I was looking for an alternative despite having such a good platform like XMR.

The reason is that future regulations scare me a little bit, specially privacy limitations, they've already wiped out Tornado Cash and Blender, because "they are perfect for money laundering".

Their next target will be privacy coins, more specifically Monero, and nobody will change my mind, regulators already issued statements against Monero and I think it's only matter of time.

So, do you know any good alternatives to Monero?
Monero has always been on the sights of regulators so this is not a really new, besides if regulators can really get rid of monero then most likely any alternatives that you may be thinking about using are going to suffer the same fate, so it doesn't really make a lot of sense to look for alternatives which are going to disappear almost at the same time, so you might as well use monero for whatever you need and just hope for the best, I know that this may seem to be a passive strategy but it is really the only thing that you can actually do.
legendary
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September 04, 2022, 06:45:58 PM
#33
There is no doubt that Monero gave us perfect privacy, but unfortunately the government didn't like the idea. The government will not be able to interfere or destroy the monero network but they can destroy it by ordering all exchanges to delist it. This will lead to the monero in danger of disappearing.

Of course, majority of us shift to crypto initially not thinking about our privacy. But then again, as we learn about, it make sense to have our privacy hidden from the public although blockchain is there for everyone to see. Unfortunately, government see it otherwise, they will want to unravel everyone who is hiding under the guise of Monero. So the battle has started, they prepared every crypto entities including exchange to del-listed this coin otherwise, they will get the wrath of regulators and government agencies. So it's better to stay away from Monero right now OP because you might have a problem later and who knows, there will be a time that you can't exchange your Monero holdings to fiat as no one is going to accept them.
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September 04, 2022, 05:49:44 PM
#32
This Moreno coin is really not accepted in almost all existing exchanges, because of the risks caused by several parties, especially the privacy they create, as if they can manage it all, we will not know that this coin can be used as money laundering if it's privacy that Moreno does, that's why all governments don't like it...
Maybe check where' it's traded again?
https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/monero#markets

It's not a huge issue for centralized exchanges to list Monero anymore since they are moving towards KYC compliance for all accounts. They also implement travel rule which forces account owners to identify the source of their deposits and the wallet owner to whom they will send funds to.
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September 04, 2022, 05:40:23 PM
#31
There is no doubt that Monero gave us perfect privacy, but unfortunately the government didn't like the idea. The government will not be able to interfere or destroy the monero network but they can destroy it by ordering all exchanges to delist it. This will lead to the monero in danger of disappearing.

In this case, I think you might want to switch to Bitcoin, I think it is a good enough option, it is not completely anonymous like monero, but you will never have problems with your privacy.
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September 04, 2022, 05:13:26 PM
#30
This is why the best thing about it would be to stay away from it while all those bad people are there. Monero can't have one way or another, they can't just make it privacy oriented and let the bad people use it, but then try to keep bad people away, if you can money launder with the system they have, that is not going to be ok for exchanges or governments, and if they remove that, then they are no different from other coins.

I also like Monero but the government is pressuring exchanges to delist it, so I agree with you, better to abandon Monero and move to a transparent cryptocurrency.  No matter how they push Monero to be recognized and accepted by the Government unless they remove the privacy coins in it, it will never be accepted by the authority.


I think that no matter how hard the government wants to control cryptocurrencies they can't. It's just the owner of Monero who is too soft on the government, if he stays low profile and anonymous, surely the government will not be able to track and investigate him. I still believe that now and in the future cryptocurrency will not be controlled by the government.
Yes, I firmly believe the government will not control crypto. I think they can only control the companies.

Government cannot control the network and they knew it that is why they are pressuring centralized exchanges and other crypto-related comapanies to succumb to their demand
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September 04, 2022, 04:31:53 PM
#29
This Moreno coin is really not accepted in almost all existing exchanges, because of the risks caused by several parties, especially the privacy they create, as if they can manage it all, we will not know that this coin can be used for money laundering if it's privacy that Moreno does, that's why all governments don't like it...
The government doesn't like it and also wants it to be delisted in some exchanges not just because they couldn't regulate it due to its privacy but also to protect people from the possible money laundering and fraud using this coin. We understand that privacy makes Monero unique but if that's the reason why they're always getting delisted, I think it's something that they should change.
I would guess that "freedom" was the reason why it was started but some people took it too far. I mean yeah it is great that privacy is an important thing in monero, but just because it has some privacy doesn't mean that it would make any sense at all for people to use it for bad stuff.

This is why the best thing about it would be to stay away from it while all those bad people are there. Monero can't have one way or another, they can't just make it privacy oriented and let the bad people use it, but then try to keep bad people away, if you can money launder with the system they have, that is not going to be ok for exchanges or governments, and if they remove that, then they are no different from other coins.
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September 04, 2022, 11:01:49 AM
#28
I think that no matter how hard the government wants to control cryptocurrencies they can't. It's just the owner of Monero who is too soft on the government, if he stays low profile and anonymous, surely the government will not be able to track and investigate him. I still believe that now and in the future cryptocurrency will not be controlled by the government.
Yes, I firmly believe the government will not control crypto. I think they can only control the companies.
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September 04, 2022, 08:14:01 AM
#27
This Moreno coin is really not accepted in almost all existing exchanges, because of the risks caused by several parties, especially the privacy they create, as if they can manage it all, we will not know that this coin can be used as money laundering if it's privacy that Moreno does, that's why all governments don't like it...
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