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legendary
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August 04, 2014, 05:46:04 AM
#28
If you take a chance and risk mining a coin with really solid fundamentals from minute one you may be able to make a lot of profit. Unfortunately, if you just go to the latest multi pool and mine whatever is most profitable, it's hard to really make good monthly income without a powerful mining setup. What do others think?

Coins are not stocks/equities.  I'm not sure what fundamentals are.  Perhaps you mean a coin with great innovative ideas and a good dev team. Unfortunately it's hard to find those now with 10 scam coins popping up per day and cluttering the place with little scam wastes.
I cannot really think of how you make a profit since if you know for certain the price would rise or be stable, the difficulty can be high. Even coins with good developers can have lesser value over time, I have saw a lot of coin who had a huge community but still lost value, for example dogecoin.
hero member
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August 04, 2014, 01:02:53 AM
#27
If you take a chance and risk mining a coin with really solid fundamentals from minute one you may be able to make a lot of profit. Unfortunately, if you just go to the latest multi pool and mine whatever is most profitable, it's hard to really make good monthly income without a powerful mining setup. What do others think?

Coins are not stocks/equities.  I'm not sure what fundamentals are.  Perhaps you mean a coin with great innovative ideas and a good dev team. Unfortunately it's hard to find those now with 10 scam coins popping up per day and cluttering the place with little scam wastes.
member
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Merit: 10
August 03, 2014, 09:02:38 PM
#26
If you take a chance and risk mining a coin with really solid fundamentals from minute one you may be able to make a lot of profit. Unfortunately, if you just go to the latest multi pool and mine whatever is most profitable, it's hard to really make good monthly income without a powerful mining setup. What do others think?
sr. member
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Agent of Chaos
August 03, 2014, 04:15:47 PM
#25
I'm trying to "mine" LetsTalkBitcoin (LTB) just by posting in their forum, maybe this is the only coin worth mining.

Don't know how long that's gonna last. But maybe it will go somewhere....

Anyone remember Motocoin? Grin
sr. member
Activity: 322
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August 03, 2014, 03:40:38 PM
#24
Bitcoin hasn't been worth mining for ages. Of course when everyone gets told that it's not worth mining, well... somebody has to do the mining, for the coin to work, but basically whoever started first scallated on his mining business and now owns tons of hashing power, so whoever comes after that is just mining peanuts.
newbie
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August 03, 2014, 01:24:55 PM
#23
I'm trying to "mine" LetsTalkBitcoin (LTB) just by posting in their forum, maybe this is the only coin worth mining.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
August 03, 2014, 11:18:53 AM
#22
If you're in CA there's always a lot of opportunity to start a business and just accept BTC as the preferred payment method but you would need to keep a tight ledger to pay taxes.  Mining is pretty much dead except for free electricity people.

Everyone should do their own ROI.  I am lucky to have space and cheap electricity so mining is very much alive for me on Asics.  Granted I did stop GPU mining as heat and electricity was making my profit to slim, and was better off selling my cards.

I'm sure for someone in big cities this is much different then me, but depending on your situation mining is very much alive.
hero member
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August 03, 2014, 02:49:30 AM
#21
If you're in CA there's always a lot of opportunity to start a business and just accept BTC as the preferred payment method but you would need to keep a tight ledger to pay taxes.  Mining is pretty much dead except for free electricity people.
legendary
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August 02, 2014, 06:23:57 PM
#20
Well since BTC is being legal tender in california I'm looking into way to profit off this big move such as ideas/mining/owning my own currency exchange building mabe in sanfran.
Personally do you feel i should just stick to what i normally do, or should i put up some money i can spare into a bigger project?

First, bitcoin is not legal tender in California. The recent change just made it no longer illegal to use. Of course, this is not as big of a move as you might have thought.

Second, the hardest and most expensive part of setting up an exchange is complying with the regulations.

Finally, mining bitcoins is not for newbies. Mining can be profitable only if you can keep your costs down and you know what you are doing. Unfortunately, most people pay more for the mining equipment than they receive in revenue.
sr. member
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August 02, 2014, 02:28:34 PM
#19
Mining is not as profitable any more, investing what you know you can afford and do not mind losing is a better way than attempting to mine and possibly not gaining half as much as what you could have done investing instead.
hero member
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August 02, 2014, 12:51:36 PM
#18
Well since BTC is being legal tender in california I'm looking into way to profit off this big move such as ideas/mining/owning my own currency exchange building mabe in sanfran.


Personally do you feel i should just stick to what i normally do, or should i put up some money i can spare into a bigger project?

If you have the capital and ability to create and run a new exchange, you can do it but it will definitely be a huge, difficult, risky but possibly very rewarding project.

Bitcoin mining, on the other hand, isn't really profitable from my point of view.
legendary
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August 02, 2014, 11:10:14 AM
#17
Not really worth mining, unless you have a lot of luck, space, and free electricity.

An ROI may occur if you buy really-high-power equipment soon, as it could help to skoot along the possibility of getting an ROI.

Make sure you have efficiency and speed. Those are the two necessary things to have.
ROI is never guaranteed. To have more possibility, you need to be the first in the world to receive the most efficient ASIC. You can mine it before anyone else. Since it is sold in batches, difficulty will increase when everyone have receive their ASIC unless it is a limited edition super efficient one which does not exist.
legendary
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August 02, 2014, 11:06:34 AM
#16
Not really worth mining, unless you have a lot of luck, space, and free electricity.

An ROI may occur if you buy really-high-power equipment soon, as it could help to skoot along the possibility of getting an ROI.

Make sure you have efficiency and speed. Those are the two necessary things to have.
legendary
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August 02, 2014, 10:06:13 AM
#15
I don't think mining is currently profitable if you still have to buy all the equiptment yet.

However, that's with the current price. If you stash your mined BTC (which are now worth about, let's say $600), if might have been profitable in the long run (when the value might be about, for example $1500).  However, that's quite a gamble (in which you shouldn't be involved with money you can't afford to loose / money you lend).

Short term trading etc is still profitable (if you know how to, and got some luck).
Why don't you just buy BTC? If you actually just stash mined BTC from bought machines, the profits would be way smaller, shipping fees, overpriced equipments. It is better to use that amount of money to buy BTC as the fees combined would still be smaller than the loss from mining.

I totally agree with you. That's also the way I roll. I quit mining since many months now.   But what I ment to say was that mining still might be profitable. So if the topicstarter is really into mining, he might ROI in the long run.

Directly buying BTC instead is a smarter step in my opinion too, but hey, that's his own decision.

Mining can still be profitable.  There are so many variables.  Electricity and room is a lot of it.  With cheap electricty and lot's of extra room I am lucky.  I imagine in San Fransisco these are a premium so do ROI, also look at hosted if want to mine.  Again do ROI.

As far as "own currency exchange building". It is very hard to do legally and compete.  To get to where coinbase is you would have to most likely in spend hundreds of thousands to become a operating currency exchange in us.   Yes... you can do something like localbitcoin, but in US this is technically considered money laundering. 

So far no one I know of has been in trouble for just localbitcoin trading, there has always been something larger that caused it to be looked into. But look into money laundering before doing your own currency exchange. Or better yet talk to a lawyer who can help you on business idea who knows far more then me Smiley 
Mining equipments are very expensive in the first place. If people think like you, a lot of people would start mining and increase the difficulty, thus making mining very unprofitable. You still have some chance if you do have free electricity. I don't think one would like to run it near their house therefore they need to rent spaces, it requires alot of money to begin with.
legendary
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August 02, 2014, 09:56:10 AM
#14
I don't think mining is currently profitable if you still have to buy all the equiptment yet.

However, that's with the current price. If you stash your mined BTC (which are now worth about, let's say $600), if might have been profitable in the long run (when the value might be about, for example $1500).  However, that's quite a gamble (in which you shouldn't be involved with money you can't afford to loose / money you lend).

Short term trading etc is still profitable (if you know how to, and got some luck).
Why don't you just buy BTC? If you actually just stash mined BTC from bought machines, the profits would be way smaller, shipping fees, overpriced equipments. It is better to use that amount of money to buy BTC as the fees combined would still be smaller than the loss from mining.

I totally agree with you. That's also the way I roll. I quit mining since many months now.   But what I ment to say was that mining still might be profitable. So if the topicstarter is really into mining, he might ROI in the long run.

Directly buying BTC instead is a smarter step in my opinion too, but hey, that's his own decision.

Mining can still be profitable.  There are so many variables.  Electricity and room is a lot of it.  With cheap electricty and lot's of extra room I am lucky.  I imagine in San Fransisco these are a premium so do ROI, also look at hosted if want to mine.  Again do ROI.

As far as "own currency exchange building". It is very hard to do legally and compete.  To get to where coinbase is you would have to most likely in spend hundreds of thousands to become a operating currency exchange in us.   Yes... you can do something like localbitcoin, but in US this is technically considered money laundering. 

So far no one I know of has been in trouble for just localbitcoin trading, there has always been something larger that caused it to be looked into. But look into money laundering before doing your own currency exchange. Or better yet talk to a lawyer who can help you on business idea who knows far more then me Smiley 
legendary
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August 02, 2014, 09:09:36 AM
#13
I don't think mining is currently profitable if you still have to buy all the equiptment yet.

However, that's with the current price. If you stash your mined BTC (which are now worth about, let's say $600), if might have been profitable in the long run (when the value might be about, for example $1500).  However, that's quite a gamble (in which you shouldn't be involved with money you can't afford to loose / money you lend).

Short term trading etc is still profitable (if you know how to, and got some luck).
Why don't you just buy BTC? If you actually just stash mined BTC from bought machines, the profits would be way smaller, shipping fees, overpriced equipments. It is better to use that amount of money to buy BTC as the fees combined would still be smaller than the loss from mining.

I totally agree with you. That's also the way I roll. I quit mining since many months now.   But what I ment to say was that mining still might be profitable. So if the topicstarter is really into mining, he might ROI in the long run.

Directly buying BTC instead is a smarter step in my opinion too, but hey, that's his own decision.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 4418
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August 02, 2014, 09:01:19 AM
#12
I don't think mining is currently profitable if you still have to buy all the equiptment yet.

However, that's with the current price. If you stash your mined BTC (which are now worth about, let's say $600), if might have been profitable in the long run (when the value might be about, for example $1500).  However, that's quite a gamble (in which you shouldn't be involved with money you can't afford to loose / money you lend).

Short term trading etc is still profitable (if you know how to, and got some luck).
Why don't you just buy BTC? If you actually just stash mined BTC from bought machines, the profits would be way smaller, shipping fees, overpriced equipments. It is better to use that amount of money to buy BTC as the fees combined would still be smaller than the loss from mining.
sr. member
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Merit: 260
August 02, 2014, 09:00:34 AM
#11
Mining isn't profitable, if you want to have some experience with it just rent a mining rig
through a cloud service and try to mine an altcoin.
But to gain some real profit you should buy bitcoins and hold them for months or years.
legendary
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August 02, 2014, 08:54:15 AM
#10
I don't think mining is currently profitable if you still have to buy all the equiptment yet.

However, that's with the current price. If you stash your mined BTC (which are now worth about, let's say $600), if might have been profitable in the long run (when the value might be about, for example $1500).  However, that's quite a gamble (in which you shouldn't be involved with money you can't afford to loose / money you lend).

Short term trading etc is still profitable (if you know how to, and got some luck).
legendary
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Merit: 1105
August 02, 2014, 08:51:19 AM
#9
Yes if you trade on cex

No if you buy equipment

Good luck man
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