Would a gamblers statistics in graph and chart form, be of any help? - page 2.

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Quote from: decodx on April 12, 2024, 10:43:33 AM

Some betting sites probably have tools to track spending, but come on - an addict ain't gonna suddenly reform just because of a fancy graph. Theyll either ignore it or use it to rationalize chasing losses.

If casinos actually wanna help gambling addicts, they gotta give them ways to self-impose limits. Maybe let them set deposit caps or take breaks from sites. Stuff like that, you know? Numbers don't cure addiction; self-control does. And sometimes addicts need assists with self-control.

You are very correct with the point you made and it's good to acknowledge that you understand that most gambling addictions ain't just because the customer can't control themselves, but because they don't have any support in form of such data or breaks or tools to track spending from the sites or casinos they visit.

The gambling houses and sites seem to want more money from the gamblers pocket and as such, the most visiting customer gets a reward or bonus for good patronage.

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This will depend on how the user interpret it, tracking one's performance or the rate at which he gambles will only propel him to gamble more because he will want to perform higher and not underperform looking at the chart.

Gambling can only be resolved when one has taken a decision to curb it,not chart or any stats. It requires discipline, Addiction is a psychological issue and should be treated as such not by representation.

In essence I don't think would be of any help. Someone who is addicted to something can come up with a different interpretation of anything just to fulfil his desire at that moment. And the chart or data stat won't restrict the user so what's the use then.

It a matter of self-reflection, realization, decision and discipline on the side of the gambler.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on April 12, 2024, 08:26:33 AM

Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

No, I dont think so. Addiction is a psychological - the numbers dont lie, but they dont get to the heart of things either. Sure, charts might show what someones blowing at the tables or slot machines. But that cash spent doesnt scratch the itch for more. and people with gambling problem justify anything when they are riding high or trying to catch the next wave. Datas just data - it doesnt speak to the soul. For that, you need understanding compassion.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on April 12, 2024, 08:26:33 AM

Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?

I think, while these tools can support awareness, they are not a cure-all. The effectiveness of such measures would also depend on the individual’s openness to recognizing and acting upon the information presented. For those deeply struggling with addiction, professional help might still be necessary. Overall, it’s a positive step towards more responsible gambling and could be part of broader strategies to support users in maintaining control over their gambling habits.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on April 12, 2024, 08:26:33 AM

Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?
What do you think?

What I think is that gamblers data and its statistics are only good and will be effective for decision and policy makers. It will help them to create policies and strategies to find a solution to underaged gambling, illegal gambling, gambling addiction and others too.

As for the gambler, I do not see any effectiveness in this. There are people who cannot interprete charts. If you live in a country where the bulk of people gambling are those who have education below the tertiary level, of what use will this be when they do not understand it.

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I believe it could be a valid solution. Definitely yes. If you loss money you can just start a new gambling limit....
An approach like this can help both evaluate previous plays but also to maximize future ones.
For example, if I realize that I am losing some bets on a certain sport, I avoid continuing to play it. maybe focusing in other bets or other sports.
this act of "writing" your own bets/state the current situation, is one of those pieces of advice that is given precisely to maximize your profits in other economic areas too...

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on April 12, 2024, 08:26:33 AM

Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?

maybe, maybe not, I mean, it could make a gambler realize that they are spending too much time and too much money gambling and decide to limit their gambling habits or completely stop gambling after seeing their gambling history, but some could just completely ignore the chart/graphs or if their profit is showing that they are in the negative, use it as a way to motivate themselves that they need to gamble more in order to break even or be in profit. in the end, the decision to change depends on the gambler.

anyway, casinos having a graph or chart showing a gambler's betting history, wins, losses, etc.. is a great feature to have and as far as I know, a lot of casinos have this feature but not in graph or chart form.

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Some betting sites probably have tools to track spending, but come on - an addict ain't gonna suddenly reform just because of a fancy graph. Theyll either ignore it or use it to rationalize chasing losses.

If casinos actually wanna help gambling addicts, they gotta give them ways to self-impose limits. Maybe let them set deposit caps or take breaks from sites. Stuff like that, you know? Numbers don't cure addiction; self-control does. And sometimes addicts need assists with self-control.

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The idea is quite an innovative one but I don't think casinos (online casinos) would love to include such features to their websites as they might be thinking that it's a way to loss customers who gambles on a regular.

If such a idea is bought, it will surely help the conscious gamblers who are responsible enough to control how they gamble, ones they see that they are loosing too much they will quit and try to re-strategize how they gamble the next time hence it could lead to a more responsible gambling habit or pull some people out of addiction. But that will be if there is already a measure or an analysis of how an addiction can be observed because some people might not be addicted but loss regularly or win regularly so it's going to be a tough time determining how addiction can be described or measured.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on April 12, 2024, 08:26:33 AM

Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?

Casinos do offer viewing the profile progress of user in chart form and others show in different graphics but we can track our progress for sure on every casino then why we still have people addicted to gambling?

It can help us to track our profits and loss but I don't think it will be helpful in dealing with addictions at all.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on April 12, 2024, 08:26:33 AM

Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?

your idea has a lot of merit.
Graphs and charts can make abstract numbers more concrete, showing trends and patterns that might not be obvious otherwise. For someone who gambles, seeing a visual representation of how often they gamble, how much they spend, and whether those numbers are trending upwards could be a wake-up call. It could help them recognize problematic patterns in their behavior early on.

Moreover, providing such data could also align with responsible gambling practices, where transparency and tools for self-regulation are crucial. It might not only help individual users but could also serve as a demonstration of good faith by gambling platforms, showing that they are committed to preventing gambling addiction.

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As Sunderland mentioned, some of them do have it, you need to look around even further to find your stats, but they rarely have the ones with graphs or charts. They'd only provide the numbers, and IMO that's enough to help you look back at your losses.

I always think providing stats is a good feature in a gambling site and helpful against addiction because I remember mentioning a similar solution that helped me tone down my budget. Also, it makes tracking more convenient if you have a spreadsheet.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on April 12, 2024, 08:26:33 AM

What do you think?

I don't think they will want to add such features even if it may help to monitor ones activity in gambling. Casinos and gaming sites usually makes more money when players makes lots of bet. So weather a user is becoming addicted and wanting to stop depends on his abilities to control and monitor himself. The casinos will never want to stop you from gambling because if they do that, how then will they make their profit. Just think of it as a business where they sell coffins, thy would pray for people to die so they can make sales. Same with the casinos, they will pray that players makes losses so they can profit from it.

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No, why the casino need to offer something that could harm themselves? Tongue

Casinos make money from people who're loss, if they offer something that make the gamblers reduce or quit their gambling activity, they won't able to earn as much as possible.

If they can remove "self exclusion" feature, they would remove it, unfortunately they're forced to have it due to regulations.

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Graphs and chart will be giving you the statistics of gamblers using the casino everyday, and how many won, and how many lost. It cannot be on individuals gambling statistics that uses the casino everyday . However, some gamblers don't use only one casino as they gamble from casino to casino based on bonuses and promotions.

I don't even think if it will be of any help to gamblers, if it contains the gamble habits of individual, because some gamblers don't care to re-access their gambling activities, and some are after profit, and they will keep on chasing their losses since they want to use gamble to make a fortune. It is not easy for an addicted person to stop gambling through this way.

The best thing is to have a gamble budget, maybe 5% of your income, and also have a time limit for your gambling activities.

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I'm sure mostly of the existing casino websites or casino applications have this kind of feature wherein a gambler can see its history plays, stakes, or bets, but the thing is, it is for sure being ignored, especially for those who lost their self-control and their awareness of themselves. Well, it can't be helped, but for those who lose track of their activities in gambling, this could be a really big help for them. They can see their activities in detail, and a user can modify the result based on what the user wants to know. But sadly, we know that this is less viewed by a gambler; for sure, they would not mind looking at it because, for them, as long as they have money or funds to stake or play, they will not stop. Maybe if they are already applied, they will issue a warning if the system detects that the gambler is wasting too much money in a short time.

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There are several casinos that already have features like that, usually located in the transactions or profile section.
I think the statistics/charts like that cannot become a reference that someone is addicted to gambling or not, and many gamblers actually dont really care about such features.
In fact, a feature like that can actually encourage someone to chasing the previous losses.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on April 12, 2024, 08:26:33 AM

Would a data showing the users statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

If graphs, charts and diagrams could help a company or startup to project and know the progress the company or business has made annually or periodically, with concise economic details and investment as well as returns, then don't you think gambling and betting sites should have such user statistics presented in chart form and readily available upon just a click, to the user, so that it helps them know if they have become addicted knowingly or unknowingly and as such, gain control over their gambling or betting habits?

What do you think?

I think it can be helpful but the graphs and data must be presented in a way that it can clearly see the distinction between a gambler suffering from addiction and from a normal person.

If the graphs are well explained to the point that even a five year old can understand, then it can be helpful to a certain extent. The problem here is actually getting the attention of these gamblers and on their personal decision to commit in resolving their problems. Even with the best guide, support, and methods, if the gambler does not want to commit and to start helping himself/herself, then all efforts would be nugatory.

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on April 12, 2024, 08:26:33 AM

Would a data showing the user statistics in graph and chart form, comparing ones gambling habit over a duration, help to curb gambling addiction or enforce strict control?

No, this may only help a gambler to see the image of himself from how he has been involved with gambling and how addicted or often he gambles, this may have nothing to do by influencing his decision on gambling addiction, some may even see such and express joy that they have been having nice and steady performance in gambling over time and not seeing such as a pattern telling them on how addicted they were in gambling, this may determine on how the gambler interpret such result, if he thinks there should be a need for an improvement or not.

Any kind of support/improvement on the quality of life of an addict is always welcomed. Even if it may be difficult for them to stop, if they see actual data that explains clearly the statistics of people suffering from addiction and their corresponding rates linked to suicide/depression, then it can help them snap back to reality and commit in helping themselves.

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hmph..

As far as I know, the data in statistics or graphs is not to control someone to become a gambler or stop gambling. However, this is to serve as information on how many gamblers there are according to surveys or company data. This data can be used by the government to anticipate an increase in the number of underage gamblers, but not to control it completely, because it is the individual who must be responsible.

Data is also used by corporations or gambling companies to improve services or to limit services. company will not provide information to users if they are addicted to gambling through its platform, because that is not their responsibility. Of course the company will not prevent this from happening because they only provide the platform. Companies usually disclose user information and average time spent on their platforms for public information. Either in the form of a release document or release blog post.

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Basically yes. This would help them be aware of how they are doing as they gamble. Actually it is really a problem not knowing such aspect; tendency is for them to continue betting out of frustration because they are unconscious of the amount they are losing already, then the moment they knew, they have nothing left with them (in worse case scenarios). Statistics and numbers won't fail you to be organized. Effeciency with betting is what gamblers need to not cross their line of tolerance in both winning and losing situations. In such way emotions won't have a room to take over you whether to continue playing or not.

Problem with this is that, not all gamblrs are into such thing; some are too lazy to track it for themselves and same thing goes even if there will be a tool or app to help them if they won't have the initiative to apply it to themselves.

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