Topic: Would this work? - page 3. (Read 3961 times)

I'm not trying to bust your chops man, really just trying to help you see what you're really getting out of BTC mining.  To my knowledge, there is no such thing as a Pentium 4 Celeron, it's either a Pentium 4 or a Celeron/Celeron D.  I'm guessing it's a P4, because the fastest Celeron ever made was 3.6 GHz.  There's a bunch of P4's at 3.8 GHz including the P4 HT 3.8F, the P4 HT 570J, or the P4 HT 571, all of which are running at least 115 Watts, not the 73 watts, which makes things even worse from a cost standpoint.  Any of those parts are going to suck up 82.8 Kilowatt hours/month.  At 5 cents a kilowatt hour, your spending $4.14 in power, and more likely at 10 cents or more a kilowatt hour, your spending $8.18+ in power.  All for 13 cents of BTC.  Do you know what your power costs are per kilowatt hour?  It's a relatively easy calculation to determine your monthly costs.


I understand you can't afford a video card good enough for mining and it's awesome your interested in BTC/mining, but you're _paying_ at least $4 and likely upwards of $8-$10 a month just to mine, and your killing your CPU in the process.  Stop mining for a few months and stick $10 in a jar each month.  You can go on eBay and pick up a 5770 for $40-$50 that will mine 163 times more BTC than you are currently doing with your CPU at the same or even lower power use.  Just about any video card made in the past 3 or 4 years is going make you more BTC per power input than that CPU.  To be honest, even awesome GPU's won't be worth mining with if ASIC's hit the scene in the next few months.

From your previous statements I presume that you haven't looked under the "hood of your car" yet. Personally, that's the first thing I did before I even invested a cent in BTC.

Your negligence aside, you have much to learn about computing technology before you can understand WHY mining prefers certain computing platforms over others. Your friend apparently has no clue either.
As a start look up http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_Computing and figure out which kind of parallel computing problem bitcoin mining is.

I mine on and off, nothing ever significant.

So even with 700 posts, you don't particularly mine? This is new, a trial, or?

I've been on BTCMine just a bit over a day and won't know until the block is done, seems it's in the middle of a 3day block.
I don't see getting no more then 0.004, but I could be wrong.

I like the attitude, but how many BTC do you mine so far?  I mean per what period? Etc academical curiosity.

Not sure, that has to do with either post count or length from start date. I never asked for it.



Intel 3.8ghz Pentium 4 Celeron. There's no D on it anywhere, if it is, it is. I'm not worried about power consumption, desktop doesn't have anything on it but XP pro and bill doesn't get any higher now then it did before I started mining. On that note, not everyone is super rich and can afford a video card good enough for mining, so cpu mining is my only way to go. I'm more then open to accept one to mine, but since I know that'll never happen, I'll stick with what I got.

How can you be a 'Hero member'  and not know that you are spending 2 dollars to make 10 cents and tearing up your cpu to do it?

I'm assuming the fact you said you're mining with a single core 3 GHz Celeron to mean that you are mining with a Celeron D 345.  The 345 uses 73 watts at full load (and not counting power being used by any other PC components).  If you are truly mining at 1.3 mh/second and mine 24x7 for a full month you will make approximate .01 BTC or 13 cents US worth of BTC a month at today's BTC/$ rate.

Assuming you have _awesome_ power rates of .05 cents a kilowatt hour, that CPU is sucking up 1.752 Kilowatt hours/day or 52.56 Kilowatt Hours/month.  At .05 cents/kwh, you are spending $2.62 in electricity costs, so you are mining an making 20x less money than you are spending.

Even if you are getting free power, you're pushing your CPU at it's max and hurtling it ever so much quicker towards an early end of life.  I'm with Nemesis, stop wasting your time/power/money.

Ok so multiple float points determine hash rate also, like the T4(something like 3 or 8 points, I don't remember).


Thanks for reminding me, even though my celeron's pulling 1.3 m/hs, I'm doing really good on btcmine.

No exaggeration: For litecoin the T2  8 core 64SMT processor used in the Sun server has a hashpower of 2,48MHash/s the Atom N270 has 2,57. The OP talks of a server with a is the T1 that is about half the speed of T2. Here's the source: http://wiki.litecoin.net/index.php/Mining_hardware_comparison
If you use it for "normal" data crunching probably will beat the Atom due to the high number of threads (but not of so much), because it has only 1 floating point unit shared by the cores

Why do you even bother? Wasting energy is the most stupid thing.

Oh... and dont tell me u want to support bitcoin network. We've heard this crap so many times. You want to protect your country with a knife and a stick, you're still an idiot.

 ok - so i'll stop looking for one and stick with my cpu(3ghz single-core Celeron pullin 1.3m/hs) mine for now. Thanks for the help and understanding in this.

Keep in mind that for example a Radeon hd5870 contains 1600 "cores" so-to-speak which are used in parallel when gpu mining. So you effectively have 1600 little processors all running at the clock speed of the gpu core (850mhz for a stock 5870) this is why it is substantially faster on GPUs. Litecoin was designed to be more CPU friendly so you'd probably see better results with that, but you will get dismal results either way (money wise) since the CPU is just way too old. It would be a different story if it were still the year 2000.

sounds like your buddy is looking to unload some worthless old tech

or something is getting lost in translation

That's what I'm thinking because my friend has his set up as a mysql server under unix, but he seemed to think it'd work because the processor is an 8-core with each core having 32 threads equaling out to something like 256 threads, ment for some serious stable number crunching. I thought I'd ask the opinion here before I go looking for one.

The T2000 is mid-2000's server technology. It's been replaced by Intel Xeons in the Sun Fire line a long time ago. Not quite sure if it is weaker than an Atom though - the guy who said it was probably was exaggerating (a little).

then where is all this number crunching my friend was talking about?

No, it has pratically no hashpower for bitcoin.
Even for litecoin mining is useless: it has less hashpower than an Atom single core

Was talking to a friend of mine who's heavily into computers and networking and all that fun stuff and we got to talking about bitcoins.
He suggested using at sun sunfire t2000 under linux or unix for it's data crunching capabilies.
looking at specs for the t2000 sees that the cpu is a 8-core, 32-thread 1.4ghz cpu with 16gb of ram and twin 73gb sas hard drives.

Would this work? and if so, what would I see mining wise?