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Quote from: pawanjain on June 10, 2021, 10:16:33 AM

Wow, this looks really interesting. I did know that there are such competitions which takes place occasionally but I never knew people also gamble on such competitions.

I don't think many people gamble on such events because these are eventful and exciting but because there aren't many interested audiences hence there aren't any gambling sites offering market for them, at least none that I have played at.

Quote from: pawanjain on June 10, 2021, 10:16:33 AM

I am really interested in doing such indoor climbing as well but never really got the opportunity. May be some day I will.

You can surely take part in such events because climbing is not a huge sport yet and I think there shouldn't be too much competition, all you need to do is find the right event and process to take part in. I am afraid of heights and I would avoid such competition though.

Quote from: pawanjain on June 10, 2021, 10:16:33 AM

Does anyone know if there are gambling sites which allow us to place bets on such events?

Like I mentioned above, I don't think any sports betting site offers markets for climbing yet.

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This is one crazy sport, which requires great physical endurance...

I don't really like extreme sports like this, and also I don't recognize the contestants who are competing, I don't think I will follow the bet inside.

Climbing might look dangerous and life-threatening from outside but it is all about skill and practice. The first time I watched a few sports like NFL, I felt like the players must sustain huge injuries looking at their size and the nature of the sport but I was wrong and although injuries are there, they are never career-ending. Similarly in MMA heavyweight fights, you will feel like a fighter will die today but even when they get knocked out cold, they gain consciousness and feel better within a few minutes.

So climbing or any sport might look risky when you watch it but once you actually understand the dynamics and the skill of the competitors, it will not look that risky. As far as betting goes, people bet on slapping tournaments which is far more devastating than climbing.

I think a great deal of this has to do with perception, it is known that one of the most common fears that people have is the fear of heights, and this is completely natural as falling from a high point can be lethal, however sports like football generate way more injuries as the contact is constant on almost every play but falling for an experimented climber is very rare, however if it happens and they are not using security and protective equipment it can generate injuries from which it will be impossible to recover.

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Quote from: Slow death on June 11, 2021, 05:18:49 PM

It's strange that I've seen people climbing with only shoes on, but I've also seen people climbing with some safety equipment like ropes. I think that only people without a love for the life run the risk of climbing without ropes, in the case of sports I think they are obliged to climb with ropes, I could be wrong

Shit, man, this must be really scarry. I mean if we are talking about climbing only in shoes Shocked

And as i said before - this is a bad idea to afford someone to bet on such activity, because this will just motivate climbers to do it again (and even will invite more people to that). Let us bet on something more peaceful.

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no doubt that this is a very complicated type of sport to monitor and analyze players, for example, I don't even know where I would start analyzing each player and how I would determine the winner of each game, it would be a waste of money and time, maybe because Knowing that people could hardly follow this sport, bookmakers are not paying much attention to it. a little offtopic, to this day I don't understand how people manage to do analysis in horse racing, how do you know which horse will win? I see in the movies that this horse betting market seems to be the kind of betting market for the rich and very smart people.

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You don't need any ropes or other gear except shoes to do it.

It's strange that I've seen people climbing with only shoes on, but I've also seen people climbing with some safety equipment like ropes. I think that only people without a love for the life run the risk of climbing without ropes, in the case of sports I think they are obliged to climb with ropes, I could be wrong

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I've seen some climbing competition videos in the gym. On the one hand, it looks quite interesting and exciting (I watched the competition for speed rather than difficulty), but on the other hand, the competition is rather fleeting and the feeling of excitement does not have time to arise. Therefore, at the moment, I would not participate in betting on such events.

I have seen some rock climbing and some similar stuff but i dont know what sportsbook does offer this kind of sports or bets. Crypto sportsbooks dont offer this for sure. But would be fun to see how bets go on this events even tho i would never bet on them myself

Yes, that would be interesting. But I can assume that given the fact that this is a new sport for bookmakers and the result here is less obvious and predictable, the odds here would be much lower than in traditional sports. Both for favorites and underdogs.

It depends on the number of bookies accepting those kinds of bets. Once there are a lot of them the odds will be "normal", as normal as for other sports. I mean, they will be forced to give reasonable odds because of the competition. No one wants to bet on a site with toned-down odds, gamblers will just move to another place.

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Climbing is a great sport, I really enjoy it. If you have no previous experience I would recommend you start checking out bouldering. You don't need any ropes or other gear except shoes to do it.

^ Wait, what? Is that track and field sports that you need only shoes to do it?
I totally disagree with it, climbing sports really need safety gear like harnesses, ropes, helmet nuts, built, carabiner and etc that protect you when you fall, and also if that is an indoor wall, the ground should have a foam that if anyone will fall does not hurt badly. But yes, this sport is a very challenging game because this needs skills and strategies for how you will climb continuously to the rock, it needs your full strength just to reach the top.

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Quote from: paxmao on June 02, 2021, 05:02:24 AM

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This is one crazy sport, which requires great physical endurance...

I don't really like extreme sports like this, and also I don't recognize the contestants who are competing, I don't think I will follow the bet inside.

Climbing might look dangerous and life-threatening from outside but it is all about skill and practice. The first time I watched a few sports like NFL, I felt like the players must sustain huge injuries looking at their size and the nature of the sport but I was wrong and although injuries are there, they are never career-ending. Similarly in MMA heavyweight fights, you will feel like a fighter will die today but even when they get knocked out cold, they gain consciousness and feel better within a few minutes.

So climbing or any sport might look risky when you watch it but once you actually understand the dynamics and the skill of the competitors, it will not look that risky. As far as betting goes, people bet on slapping tournaments which is far more devastating than climbing.

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Quote from: pawanjain on June 10, 2021, 10:16:33 AM

Wow, this looks really interesting. I did know that there are such competitions which takes place occasionally but I never knew people also gamble on such competitions.
I am really interested in doing such indoor climbing as well but never really got the opportunity. May be some day I will.
Does anyone know if there are gambling sites which allow us to place bets on such events?

I don't think so. OP was only curious if we would actually bet on such sports, and afaik, there's no such gambling competition, at least officially anyway that hosts these kinds of bets from what I know anyway. The sport is quite reliant on body fitness so the winner could be clearly seen if someone had done enough research so I hardly doubt it would get an audience. It's a solo sport after all, and unlike marathons with a clear path, mountain climbing still has that factor of human intervention or environment intervention, if they had chosen to do this inside or outside respectively. It makes it random, yes, but it also introduces probabilities to actually manipulate it so that climbing is easier.

You may be right but I think manipulations can be done in most of the sports where betting is involved such as cricket, soccer, golf, boxing etc...
On the other hand, fitness can determine one's strength but not his agility and endurance. Anyway, it would be a nice option to bet on such sports.

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Quote from: pawanjain on June 10, 2021, 10:16:33 AM

Wow, this looks really interesting. I did know that there are such competitions which takes place occasionally but I never knew people also gamble on such competitions.
I am really interested in doing such indoor climbing as well but never really got the opportunity. May be some day I will.
Does anyone know if there are gambling sites which allow us to place bets on such events?

I don't think so. OP was only curious if we would actually bet on such sports, and afaik, there's no such gambling competition, at least officially anyway that hosts these kinds of bets from what I know anyway. The sport is quite reliant on body fitness so the winner could be clearly seen if someone had done enough research so I hardly doubt it would get an audience. It's a solo sport after all, and unlike marathons with a clear path, mountain climbing still has that factor of human intervention or environment intervention, if they had chosen to do this inside or outside respectively. It makes it random, yes, but it also introduces probabilities to actually manipulate it so that climbing is easier.

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Wow, this looks really interesting. I did know that there are such competitions which takes place occasionally but I never knew people also gamble on such competitions.
I am really interested in doing such indoor climbing as well but never really got the opportunity. May be some day I will.
Does anyone know if there are gambling sites which allow us to place bets on such events?

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Quote from: paxmao on June 02, 2021, 05:02:24 AM

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This is one crazy sport, which requires great physical endurance...

I don't really like extreme sports like this, and also I don't recognize the contestants who are competing, I don't think I will follow the bet inside.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on June 04, 2021, 05:54:09 PM

I never knew such game exist climbing challange. I would love to watch how it's been played so I can stake my fiat for my favorite athlete. I am also wondering if the odd will look attractive since a whole lot of persons don't know such games exist I feel more publicity should be done on this to create good awareness to the public about this kind of game.

are you living under a rock ? climbing is never new and almost all of the population knows that this game exist and theres a pic in the first post if hows this game played but even without pics or vids ,
we can easily imagine what this game look like because the word climb is pretty basic and why use fiat but crypto is supposed to be your going to use because its more easier .

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I was aware that people climb mountains and all but wasn't aware that there are competitions going for those. It would be pretty cool to bet on climbing events given the stream is available. I have bet on cycling in past at fiat sportsbooks so I love betting on new and refreshing sports.

Quote from: AicecreaME on June 05, 2021, 08:53:26 AM

The pictures you have shown doesn't look like an indoor sports to me. Sports Climbing in an actual cliff or mountain is very dangerous, everything could go wrong, if you know what I mean.

If you look closely and read OP, you will see that he posted screenshots from a video and if you have time please watch the whole video, I watched it and was worth the time. It's 3 hours long though so you may want to skip some parts.

Talking about risks, they are well equipped and there is much more risk in sports like MMA and even deaths in boxing, so I cannot associate much risk with the climbing sport when I see people betting on boxing and MMA.

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Quote from: Alisha-k on June 04, 2021, 05:54:09 PM

I never knew such game exist climbing challange. I would love to watch how it's been played so I can stake my fiat for my favorite athlete. I am also wondering if the odd will look attractive since a whole lot of persons don't know such games exist I feel more publicity should be done on this to create good awareness to the public about this kind of game.

I love the second point you made. Whenever a new sport is added for betting there are opportunities for easy money because not everyone is aware of the skills of specific players/athletes and you can take advantage of that. It is similar to how some newly formed dota2 teams are strong but they are always underdog because bettors aren't aware of them. I have seen crazy odds on esports at times and the underdogs win quite easily.

I think we will have a very good opportunity to learn who are the most skilled athletes during the next olympics in Japan, since climbing will be added to the international games. If the public really enjoy the competitive category of the sport, it will become popular outside olympics on the next years. Maybe it's already a good idea to start looking on google who the athletes will be, to find informations about their individual records.
Such informations can give a great advantage to gamblers when betting during the games that may happen in July, next month.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on June 04, 2021, 05:44:45 PM

Man, this kind of sport looks scary enough. I even would not bet, but rather ask another people not to do so, because this will promote such sport and this can result in some idiots to fall over cliff and their deaths. Let's better to bet on cockroach races, i don't think that this can result in anything bad Grin

Well yeah, risk is always there and when speed is the requirement, there are even more accidents than it would be under normal circumstances.

Quote from: Alisha-k on June 04, 2021, 05:54:09 PM

I never knew such game exist climbing challange. I would love to watch how it's been played so I can stake my fiat for my favorite athlete. I am also wondering if the odd will look attractive since a whole lot of persons don't know such games exist I feel more publicity should be done on this to create good awareness to the public about this kind of game.

I love the second point you made. Whenever a new sport is added for betting there are opportunities for easy money because not everyone is aware of the skills of specific players/athletes and you can take advantage of that. It is similar to how some newly formed dota2 teams are strong but they are always underdog because bettors aren't aware of them. I have seen crazy odds on esports at times and the underdogs win quite easily.

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First we need to look at how these climbing games are measured ? Do we have tournaments & games and those who climb quickly wins or there are other measurement tools. Since i don't follow these games, i wont be able to better guide on how the betting will take place in these games ?

That's basically what I just said and you quoted it anyway. To be fair, I do think that the more people have the same concern means that it needs to be addressed first.

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Quote from: Kong Hey Pakboy on June 09, 2021, 02:14:00 AM

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Seems like a pretty niche betting market.

I personally think that it's just too prone to manipulation to be a feasible bet for more sophisticated bettors. There will also be a general lack of liquidity.

If you are an enthusiast, sure, go for it. But just know that there is no real authority that is keeping the bets fair, and it's essentially the Wild West. I can imagine if the betting markets for climbing did get large, then there will be quite a high incidence rate of "match fixing" whereby climbers fail on purpose to get themselves or friends/family a handsome payoff.

That's highly unlikely because failing could mean injuries for them or a deflated ego because they know that they could go much faster than that. It is indeed a niche market but if we were to give it a chance, it might not leave a bad aftertaste.

Well, I also believe in every game at least the fear of manipulation will always be there, no matter they are professional sportsmen, because when they involve big money for a manipulation it is very likely that they will do it. But for me, it is just a concern because I also believe that not all sportsmen will agree with such manipulation, they have trained from a young age to finally become professional sportsmen and because of that reason I still believe there are still many honest sportsmen in this world.

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Quote from: magneto on June 07, 2021, 04:06:08 AM

Seems like a pretty niche betting market.

I personally think that it's just too prone to manipulation to be a feasible bet for more sophisticated bettors. There will also be a general lack of liquidity.

If you are an enthusiast, sure, go for it. But just know that there is no real authority that is keeping the bets fair, and it's essentially the Wild West. I can imagine if the betting markets for climbing did get large, then there will be quite a high incidence rate of "match fixing" whereby climbers fail on purpose to get themselves or friends/family a handsome payoff.

That's highly unlikely because failing could mean injuries for them or a deflated ego because they know that they could go much faster than that. It is indeed a niche market but if we were to give it a chance, it might not leave a bad aftertaste.

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It is somewhat thoughtful for me to answer no, because although I like many sports I do not bet on all of them and in fact sometimes not even close to thinking of some to make a bet and this is the case.

The climbing has different levels of risks and challenges according to the version in which you practice or compete.

I remember that a documentary called "Free Solo" in 2019 won the Oscar for best documentary, the guy who did the feat is one of the most respected climbers in the world in that version.

In fact Alex Honnold¹ climbed more than 900 meters without ropes (Free Solo) El Capitan, in Yosemite National Park.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on June 04, 2021, 05:44:45 PM

Man, this kind of sport looks scary enough. I even would not bet, but rather ask another people not to do so, because this will promote such sport and this can result in some idiots to fall over cliff and their deaths. Let's better to bet on cockroach races, i don't think that this can result in anything bad Grin

Without a doubt it is a scary sport, after all we know there is a great deal of the population that is afraid of heights and this sport is about climbing at impressive speeds, for the most part the ones I have seen use a rope and other security measures to avoid that something like that happens, but if you see some YouTube videos about their training regimen and the ones that have the hobby of climbing then you will see they do not use protective gear.

I hope if such competitions become available for betting one day, at least the participants will use protective equipment, maybe it will even be a mandatory condition. Otherwise, betting on a competitor losing against someone would basically mean (in some cases) betting on his/her death, which seems kind of immoral Sad

Safety gears should be standard because even though this is just involved climbing but considering the risk of accidents and possible death could be still there since the sport is involve in high or peak places where participants could possibly fall off.
So it should be standard and they shouldnt be let to participate or join if they wont comply with the rules and regulations.
Asking out if i would bet out on such competition then it would depend but honestly this is a bit boring to look upon but since i havent seen
one then i might change off those words if i do see the actual thing..

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