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hero member
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So instead of losing 6 cards when a rig crashes you lose 16.....ill pass.
legendary
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I would not even CONSIDER having anything to do with a single rig with 16 GPUs.
I don't even want to THINK about trying to cool such a rig in a 4u case - 8 GPUs would be bad enough.
Might be possible using a water-cooling setup, but the entire front of the case better be one BEEFY radiator and even then it's going to be marginal.

 Microcenter isn't in "the majority of the USA", though they are somewhat widespread.
 They're MOSTLY a "Great Lakes States" regional chain, based out of Ohio, with a FEW stores in some major cities not in their primary region.

 Fry's is mostly West Coast with a couple "out of area" stores in major cities, based out of San Jose California (unless they moved their HQ away from where their ORIGINAL store was at).
 Again, a big regional not a nationwide chain.

 It's also worth checking out Tiger Direct, they sometimes have some really good deals on GPUs.


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It's not a scam site is microcenter. They are in the majority of USA and mail 10% coupons every month. I just got 13 MSI Armor 570's from them at ~$221 locally with coupon before tax. Fry's, another major USA retailer was selling Asus 480's for 147+ tax and shipping the other day. Got 2 before they ran out. It is the same for many other places. You can get 1060 3g for $199+ shipping almost everyday if you know where to look.
Many people just go Newegg and Amazon and that's it. There is a whole world out there and you can get great deals if you try just a little bit.
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ill build my own coz it give me personal satisfaction Smiley
newbie
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Cost will be a big thing. Today I can build a 16 RX 570/580 card rig with open air frame for $3500-$4000. IDK that you could build it, market it and still have margins in it.

Could you link a page you can buy 16 RX570 or RX580 for less than 3500-4000$ ? Smiley
I would buy 10 of those rigs from you right now for 3500$ - 4000$ / each
Can you provide us some details about those 16x RX 570-580 builds for 3500-4000$ please Smiley with detailed parts/price as of today October 3 -2017 ?

I said build not buy. The RX 570/580 can be found in the USA specialty stores for ~ $220-$230. If to buy in bulk you can easily get them for that price if not less by buying at least 5000 units.
$150 server PSU + Pico PSU. $25 plastic open mount rack and zip ties at Lowe's. $100 cheap Chinese mining board with riser CPU. $150 for RAM, CPU and SSD.

OK! Can you post some links where you can get rx570 and rx580 cards for 220-230$ in the usa with free shipping Smiley
In America the prices are a bit lower than elsewhere but not to this extent. I think OP just saw a Scam site or this website sells GPU working in the mining 1-2 years. I do think that mining on a GPU is a thing of the past. I absolutely do not see economic benefit to do it now. As soon as people will understand the price of the GPU should be reduced. This is the actual price you call, but demand is still too high to be able to buy the GPU at reasonable prices.

I actually just saw a gap in the ranks as far as prebuilt systems. 6-8 GPU solutions are being offered, but there's room in a typical 4U case for as many as 16 if you play your cards right.
hero member
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Cost will be a big thing. Today I can build a 16 RX 570/580 card rig with open air frame for $3500-$4000. IDK that you could build it, market it and still have margins in it.

Could you link a page you can buy 16 RX570 or RX580 for less than 3500-4000$ ? Smiley
I would buy 10 of those rigs from you right now for 3500$ - 4000$ / each
Can you provide us some details about those 16x RX 570-580 builds for 3500-4000$ please Smiley with detailed parts/price as of today October 3 -2017 ?

I said build not buy. The RX 570/580 can be found in the USA specialty stores for ~ $220-$230. If to buy in bulk you can easily get them for that price if not less by buying at least 5000 units.
$150 server PSU + Pico PSU. $25 plastic open mount rack and zip ties at Lowe's. $100 cheap Chinese mining board with riser CPU. $150 for RAM, CPU and SSD.

OK! Can you post some links where you can get rx570 and rx580 cards for 220-230$ in the usa with free shipping Smiley

Really quick because I'm at work. This is a Rx 470 for $255 shipped  Use a10% coupon that you can find anywhere, use a CC that has the 2% rebate and all of a sudden you are at $225.

https://ibb.co/gSf0wG

If you doing your due diligence you can get much better deals. But, you have to want to and try.

Really quick because I'm at work too Smiley
YOU SAID EXACTLY THIS :
Cost will be a big thing. Today I can build a 16 RX 570/580 card rig with open air frame for $3500-$4000. IDK that you could build it, market it and still have margins in it.

And now you linking a picture about rx 470 cards for us Huh really Huh Grin
can we have some working links please ?
Any links for a 10% discount codes what we can find anywhere on the internet to buying GPU's Huh
All of us would be happy to use those "10% coupon that you can find anywhere" to buy GPU  Grin

 GrinHelp us please  Grin
newbie
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16 GPUs in a 4U rackmount may look good, but have you considered about ventilation yet?
I think it could be hard, I'm willing to purchase if its price around 4800$ - 5000$ and each card temperature should be less than 73C.

Without scale, it'll be a LOT more than that, but with scale, I could get quite a good value.
Maybe even under $5K.

Ventilation is being heavily considered in our designs, and we'll actively select the GPUs that we install based on ventilation.
No promises regarding 73°C just yet, but I'm optimistic. We're really trying to put the airflow through the finished prototype. (which doesn't yet exist) Thinking either Noctua or Delta High-CFM, High static pressure fans. We've got a lot of fins to work around.
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Cost will be a big thing. Today I can build a 16 RX 570/580 card rig with open air frame for $3500-$4000. IDK that you could build it, market it and still have margins in it.

Could you link a page you can buy 16 RX570 or RX580 for less than 3500-4000$ ? Smiley
I would buy 10 of those rigs from you right now for 3500$ - 4000$ / each
Can you provide us some details about those 16x RX 570-580 builds for 3500-4000$ please Smiley with detailed parts/price as of today October 3 -2017 ?

I said build not buy. The RX 570/580 can be found in the USA specialty stores for ~ $220-$230. If to buy in bulk you can easily get them for that price if not less by buying at least 5000 units.
$150 server PSU + Pico PSU. $25 plastic open mount rack and zip ties at Lowe's. $100 cheap Chinese mining board with riser CPU. $150 for RAM, CPU and SSD.

OK! Can you post some links where you can get rx570 and rx580 cards for 220-230$ in the usa with free shipping Smiley

Really quick because I'm at work. This is a Rx 470 for $255 shipped  Use a10% coupon that you can find anywhere, use a CC that has the 2% rebate and all of a sudden you are at $225.

https://ibb.co/gSf0wG

If you doing your due diligence you can get much better deals. But, you have to want to and try.

Waiting just for dozens of bucks discount doesn't sound reasonable to me. While you are waiting, the difficulty of mining goes up quickly.
full member
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Cost will be a big thing. Today I can build a 16 RX 570/580 card rig with open air frame for $3500-$4000. IDK that you could build it, market it and still have margins in it.

Could you link a page you can buy 16 RX570 or RX580 for less than 3500-4000$ ? Smiley
I would buy 10 of those rigs from you right now for 3500$ - 4000$ / each
Can you provide us some details about those 16x RX 570-580 builds for 3500-4000$ please Smiley with detailed parts/price as of today October 3 -2017 ?

I said build not buy. The RX 570/580 can be found in the USA specialty stores for ~ $220-$230. If to buy in bulk you can easily get them for that price if not less by buying at least 5000 units.
$150 server PSU + Pico PSU. $25 plastic open mount rack and zip ties at Lowe's. $100 cheap Chinese mining board with riser CPU. $150 for RAM, CPU and SSD.

OK! Can you post some links where you can get rx570 and rx580 cards for 220-230$ in the usa with free shipping Smiley

Really quick because I'm at work. This is a Rx 470 for $255 shipped  Use a10% coupon that you can find anywhere, use a CC that has the 2% rebate and all of a sudden you are at $225.

https://ibb.co/gSf0wG

If you doing your due diligence you can get much better deals. But, you have to want to and try.
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I would vote yes for this, sounds like a beast of a machine. How much would something like this run in terms of $$?

I'd put it in the neighborhood of $9K-$10K, fully loaded with ~500MH/s, being a little bit liberal, and accounting for shipping.

Such a wide margin is required at this point. Too many variables to nail down.

Its a great idea to build something like you planning to do . The only problem is with current coin/fiat exchange rate and the difficulty getting higher .

If everything stay the same , the ROI for your 9000$ build will be around 500 days with today price/difficulty calculated with today numbers and around 2000 watts of power draw with 0.1$/kwh.  ( 500MH/s on ETH )

If you selling it for $10K dollar, the ROI will be around 560 days ... This is what might be going to keep back a lot of ppl to invest $10k for a single GPU miner .

Today for $9K (3x $2900=8700$), you can buy 3x Pandaminer B3 Plus with a total hashrate of 3x220MH/s = 660MH/s on ETH

I voted " Maybe. . . Tell me more. " Smiley

Thanks for your detailed calculations. Your estimation is very reasonable.
hero member
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I would vote yes for this, sounds like a beast of a machine. How much would something like this run in terms of $$?

I'd put it in the neighborhood of $9K-$10K, fully loaded with ~500MH/s, being a little bit liberal, and accounting for shipping.

Such a wide margin is required at this point. Too many variables to nail down.

Its a great idea to build something like you planning to do . The only problem is with current coin/fiat exchange rate and the difficulty getting higher .

If everything stay the same , the ROI for your 9000$ build will be around 500 days with today price/difficulty calculated with today numbers and around 2000 watts of power draw with 0.1$/kwh.  ( 500MH/s on ETH )

If you selling it for $10K dollar, the ROI will be around 560 days ... This is what might be going to keep back a lot of ppl to invest $10k for a single GPU miner .

Today for $9K (3x $2900=8700$), you can buy 3x Pandaminer B3 Plus with a total hashrate of 3x220MH/s = 660MH/s on ETH

I voted " Maybe. . . Tell me more. " Smiley
newbie
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I would if the price was reasonable. Also depends on the type of hardware being used.

Hardware is in the works, but you can count on good quality components.
newbie
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I would vote yes for this, sounds like a beast of a machine. How much would something like this run in terms of $$?

I'd put it in the neighborhood of $9K-$10K, fully loaded with ~500MH/s, being a little bit liberal, and accounting for shipping.

Such a wide margin is required at this point. Too many variables to nail down.

The price does seem a little bit high, but remember- this is a 16 GPU rig, with retail GPU prices. if I were to get some kind of volume i think i could get the prices down by maybe as much as $1K, possibly $2K.
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Cost will be a big thing. Today I can build a 16 RX 570/580 card rig with open air frame for $3500-$4000. IDK that you could build it, market it and still have margins in it.

Could you link a page you can buy 16 RX570 or RX580 for less than 3500-4000$ ? Smiley
I would buy 10 of those rigs from you right now for 3500$ - 4000$ / each
Can you provide us some details about those 16x RX 570-580 builds for 3500-4000$ please Smiley with detailed parts/price as of today October 3 -2017 ?

I said build not buy. The RX 570/580 can be found in the USA specialty stores for ~ $220-$230. If to buy in bulk you can easily get them for that price if not less by buying at least 5000 units.
$150 server PSU + Pico PSU. $25 plastic open mount rack and zip ties at Lowe's. $100 cheap Chinese mining board with riser CPU. $150 for RAM, CPU and SSD.

OK! Can you post some links where you can get rx570 and rx580 cards for 220-230$ in the usa with free shipping Smiley
In America the prices are a bit lower than elsewhere but not to this extent. I think OP just saw a Scam site or this website sells GPU working in the mining 1-2 years. I do think that mining on a GPU is a thing of the past. I absolutely do not see economic benefit to do it now. As soon as people will understand the price of the GPU should be reduced. This is the actual price you call, but demand is still too high to be able to buy the GPU at reasonable prices.
member
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It totally depends on their pricing. Building a rackmount machine yourself is a bit troublesome, but not completely out of reach. I personally price my effort of procuring components, building, testing as $500. If their pricing is below the purchase cost of components + 500USD, I would go for it.
newbie
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I would if the price was reasonable. Also depends on the type of hardware being used.
full member
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I would vote yes for this, sounds like a beast of a machine. How much would something like this run in terms of $$?
sr. member
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Sadly this isn't something that I can provide pictures on, as it is currently in its prototyping stage.

It's a combination of careful use of space and proper airflow.


Entertain us all and draw something on the back of a napkin.
The amount of GPU's you are proposing in a 4U closed chassis is huge, but you've not given us the slightest amount of technical detail.

Supermicro manages to fit 10 x blower style cards in a 4-4.5U chassis
https://www.servethehome.com/deeplearning11-10x-nvidia-gtx-1080-ti-single-root-deep-learning-server-part-1/

Tyan has fit 4 x GPU's into a 1U and if you were to run 4 of them you'd hit the magic 16 GPU's in 4U of space.
But that is using a deep chassis with 4 x PSU's, motherboard, CPU, ram, etc.
https://www.servethehome.com/tyan-thunder-hx-ga88-b5631-server-review-4x-gpu-1u/

I have built a 4U chassis with room for 8 blower cards. a 2400W delta PSU, motherboard/cpu/ram/etc, and I can't think of a way to fit 8 more GPU's in there.
hero member
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Cost will be a big thing. Today I can build a 16 RX 570/580 card rig with open air frame for $3500-$4000. IDK that you could build it, market it and still have margins in it.

Could you link a page you can buy 16 RX570 or RX580 for less than 3500-4000$ ? Smiley
I would buy 10 of those rigs from you right now for 3500$ - 4000$ / each
Can you provide us some details about those 16x RX 570-580 builds for 3500-4000$ please Smiley with detailed parts/price as of today October 3 -2017 ?

I said build not buy. The RX 570/580 can be found in the USA specialty stores for ~ $220-$230. If to buy in bulk you can easily get them for that price if not less by buying at least 5000 units.
$150 server PSU + Pico PSU. $25 plastic open mount rack and zip ties at Lowe's. $100 cheap Chinese mining board with riser CPU. $150 for RAM, CPU and SSD.

OK! Can you post some links where you can get rx570 and rx580 cards for 220-230$ in the usa with free shipping Smiley
member
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In my experience, I would not recommend  building rigs with more than 4-6 gpus. Sometimes rigs have problems and stop working. I rather have 2-3 rigs (additional cost for MB&other, but...) and if some of them will stop mining due to hardware or software problems my other rigs will be ok.
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