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Imagine a Bank that has no management and administration. All these functions are performed by the smart contract program. Anyone who wants to connect to the bank becomes its co-owner. You can place your financial assets as authorized capital in the form of a deposit on your bank account. The bank guarantees the preservation of financial assets by issuing you an equivalent value (smart contract tokens). The bank accumulates financial assets of all co-owners and accrues income for the placement of funds. You can earn by helping others to become co-owners of this bank by providing an opportunity to connect to the bank. You can always get your asset back at any time by returning its guarantees (smart contract tokens) to the bank.
The peculiarity of bank guarantees is that they cannot be depreciated under any circumstances. The smart contract program provides for an increase in the value of tokens depending on the amount (authorized capital) of the bank's deposit. The higher the deposit, the higher the cost of the token.
http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html

This is entirely unworkable as a bank. A bank with no central management will fail. Banks make money by lending depositor assets and collecting more money when the loans are paid back. This necessitates a central administration to vet investment plans by people seeking loans and assessing the viability of those plans so the borrower has the ability to pay back the loan.  What is described above, where people just invest money and magically make more money because “smart contracts” is not a bank, it’s a Ponzi scheme.

If you want to be a part owner of a bank, join a credit union. They’re owned by the members and they actually function as a bank WITH a central administration, which again is necessary.
This is a credit union that brings together the financial assets of co-owners. Read the project and a lot will become clear to you.
An excerpt from the project. http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html
ETH-WORLD tokens are very attractive for the bank as they are secured and have constant growth and cannot be devalued. The bank can issue an interest-free perpetual loan secured by the client's ETH-WORLD (Islamic version of lending), although there may be other conditions. The bank does not have access to the client's ETH deposit, and in case of non-repayment of the loan, it can only sell smart contract tokens, and ETH will remain in the deposit blocked at the address (account) assigned to the client. Such an insurance scheme against losses in case of ETH volatility is very interesting and can attract a large number of ETH holders, which in turn will increase the total ETH deposit and, accordingly, the cost of ETH-WORLD tokens.
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Imagine a Bank that has no management and administration. All these functions are performed by the smart contract program. Anyone who wants to connect to the bank becomes its co-owner. You can place your financial assets as authorized capital in the form of a deposit on your bank account. The bank guarantees the preservation of financial assets by issuing you an equivalent value (smart contract tokens). The bank accumulates financial assets of all co-owners and accrues income for the placement of funds. You can earn by helping others to become co-owners of this bank by providing an opportunity to connect to the bank. You can always get your asset back at any time by returning its guarantees (smart contract tokens) to the bank.
The peculiarity of bank guarantees is that they cannot be depreciated under any circumstances. The smart contract program provides for an increase in the value of tokens depending on the amount (authorized capital) of the bank's deposit. The higher the deposit, the higher the cost of the token.
http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html

This is entirely unworkable as a bank. A bank with no central management will fail. Banks make money by lending depositor assets and collecting more money when the loans are paid back. This necessitates a central administration to vet investment plans by people seeking loans and assessing the viability of those plans so the borrower has the ability to pay back the loan.  What is described above, where people just invest money and magically make more money because “smart contracts” is not a bank, it’s a Ponzi scheme.

If you want to be a part owner of a bank, join a credit union. They’re owned by the members and they actually function as a bank WITH a central administration, which again is necessary.
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A co-owner of world bank?
I think this is difficult to do.
No dude, I think you're having a misinterpretation of what OP said. OP want us to imagine using a bank (which is the blockchain technology in this case) that is free to access for all. No third party which will handle our assets (crypto in this case), no restrictions, no manipulations happening. Honestly, I'm still a little bit confused but that's my own understanding Grin. But one thing is for sure, he is not pertaining to a central bank or alike.

On the other hand, if your is right then I will agree. Like the old saying, greater power comes with great responsibility. Being a a co-owner sounds good but I can feel that I will age faster having such kind of job lol.
You are right, everyone who connects to the smart contract opens his own bank and manages it himself. Cryptobank only sums up all assets and, depending on the amount, calculates the issue of tokens. Cryptobank is only a program that forms the amount of token emission and manages the addresses of deposits connected to it.
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I respect Satoshi's wish, but it is completely impossible.  Imagine that the manipulative institutions hold the most Bitcoin and they will again find the weak point of decentralized banking to make money. Then there will be many economic conflicts and when no one can control it, the world will be very vulnerable to turmoil.  Besides, Smart contract cannot guarantee the borrowing problem, so it is easy to create holes to see money escape. So the central bank is not a good solution at the moment.
An excerpt from the project. http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html
The project provides an advantageous opportunity for ETH holders to become co-owners of a cryptocurrency bank and receive income for placing a deposit, in addition, they can receive additional income for connecting those who wish to a cryptobank with a smart contract.

5. Co-owners of a cryptocurrency bank are all ETH holders who have connected the addresses of their wallets for the deposit and safety of their investments to the smart contract and who have become the issuers of ETH-WORLD tokens.
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A co-owner of world bank?
I think this is difficult to do.
No dude, I think you're having a misinterpretation of what OP said. OP want us to imagine using a bank (which is the blockchain technology in this case) that is free to access for all. No third party which will handle our assets (crypto in this case), no restrictions, no manipulations happening. Honestly, I'm still a little bit confused but that's my own understanding Grin. But one thing is for sure, he is not pertaining to a central bank or alike.

On the other hand, if your is right then I will agree. Like the old saying, greater power comes with great responsibility. Being a a co-owner sounds good but I can feel that I will age faster having such kind of job lol.
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Working for a money tending entity does not equate to earning those monies as well. That being said, I'm not so sure you got Satoshi's vision correctly. He wanted to create a platform that allows people to not be controlled by banks. And that includes enjoying features solely limited to banking institutions. That doesn't necessarily mean that you get to be a co-owner of a bank.
I developed a platform project in which I used the principle of preserving any financial assets through the ETHEREUM cryptocurrency. This platform allows all ETHEREUM holders, when connecting to it, not only to save their assets, but also to increase them. This principle has not been applied anywhere before.

An excerpt from the project. http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html
The project completely lacks any regulator. The main advantage of the project is that ETH owners manage their financial assets without sending them anywhere other than their addresses connected to the smart contract, or only for the necessary initial connection, and also if they only need ETH-WORLD tokens.
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This is Satoshi Nakamoto's dream. He wanted to give each person their own bank in hand.
He wanted to save people from the problems of trusting third parties. And most certainly, he did not want your assets to be seized by the decision of state authorities or that you would have tax liabilities in case the price of the asset increased. The assets were seized by the decision of government authorities or so that you have tax liabilities in the event that the price of the asset increases.
Imagine a Bank that has no management and administration. All these functions are performed by the smart contract program. Anyone who wants to connect to the bank becomes its co-owner. You can place your financial assets as authorized capital in the form of a deposit on your bank account. The bank guarantees the preservation of financial assets by issuing you an equivalent value (smart contract tokens). The bank accumulates financial assets of all co-owners and accrues income for the placement of funds. You can earn by helping others to become co-owners of this bank by providing an opportunity to connect to the bank. You can always get your asset back at any time by returning its guarantees (smart contract tokens) to the bank.
The peculiarity of bank guarantees is that they cannot be depreciated under any circumstances. The smart contract program provides for an increase in the value of tokens depending on the amount (authorized capital) of the bank's deposit. The higher the deposit, the higher the cost of the token.
http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html

I think your understanding about what Satoshi Nakamoto dreams, was very literal for you. Because, if you are just an ordinary person its not possible for me to become a co-owner of the world bank. You know why? due to if some of the tycoon businessman in the entire world can't achieve that position(co-owner of the world bank) how much more the people who are not a tycoon businessman like Bill gates, Rick warren, and other's, isn't?
You are right in this world, where those you are talking about rule, and you cannot become a co-owner of a world bank, but in the world of decentralized finance it is even very possible. There they will not have the opportunity to prevent you from becoming a co-owner.
An excerpt from the project. http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html
This project shows a variant of the model of the new financial system, which depends primarily on us. We want to be involved in her birth to decide for ourselves. Nobody except us will do it for you for us. Only we ourselves can decide this for ourselves. Only our interest will manage it, and it will manage the entire crypto market, and in the future all finances.

37. In a world where there are negative rates on deposits, there can be no successful development of the economy, so I am sure this platform will be in demand by banking businesses. The smart contract allows the owners of the ETH deposit, together with the financial sector (banks, funds, insurance companies, exchanges), to manage the entire cryptocurrency market. ETH-WORLD tokens backed by ETH this can be (a new single world currency under the code name Phoenix, which The Economist wrote about in 1988, issue 306) https://cont.ws/@infobazasm/812374 This currency cannot be controlled and to regulate it obeys only a simple economic law.
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A co-owner of world bank?
I think this is difficult to do. The bank system is now using blockchain technology, yes that is true. BUt about the relation t the crypto, it is still a competitor moreover about the DeFi projects.

Being a co-owner of a bank is absolutely not easy, we must have the knowledge and also experience about it in order to make certain decisions, program, and also decision that is fairly wise and careful.
And in this case, we can really see how the bank system actually runs if we know the truth
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Working for a money tending entity does not equate to earning those monies as well. That being said, I'm not so sure you got Satoshi's vision correctly. He wanted to create a platform that allows people to not be controlled by banks. And that includes enjoying features solely limited to banking institutions. That doesn't necessarily mean that you get to be a co-owner of a bank.
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I respect Satoshi's wish, but it is completely impossible.  Imagine that the manipulative institutions hold the most Bitcoin and they will again find the weak point of decentralized banking to make money. Then there will be many economic conflicts and when no one can control it, the world will be very vulnerable to turmoil.  Besides, Smart contract cannot guarantee the borrowing problem, so it is easy to create holes to see money escape. So the central bank is not a good solution at the moment.
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This is Satoshi Nakamoto's dream. He wanted to give each person their own bank in hand.
He wanted to save people from the problems of trusting third parties. And most certainly, he did not want your assets to be seized by the decision of state authorities or that you would have tax liabilities in case the price of the asset increased. The assets were seized by the decision of government authorities or so that you have tax liabilities in the event that the price of the asset increases.
Imagine a Bank that has no management and administration. All these functions are performed by the smart contract program. Anyone who wants to connect to the bank becomes its co-owner. You can place your financial assets as authorized capital in the form of a deposit on your bank account. The bank guarantees the preservation of financial assets by issuing you an equivalent value (smart contract tokens). The bank accumulates financial assets of all co-owners and accrues income for the placement of funds. You can earn by helping others to become co-owners of this bank by providing an opportunity to connect to the bank. You can always get your asset back at any time by returning its guarantees (smart contract tokens) to the bank.
The peculiarity of bank guarantees is that they cannot be depreciated under any circumstances. The smart contract program provides for an increase in the value of tokens depending on the amount (authorized capital) of the bank's deposit. The higher the deposit, the higher the cost of the token.
http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html

I think your understanding about what Satoshi Nakamoto dreams, was very literal for you. Because, if you are just an ordinary person its not possible for me to become a co-owner of the world bank. You know why? due to if some of the tycoon businessman in the entire world can't achieve that position(co-owner of the world bank) how much more the people who are not a tycoon businessman like Bill gates, Rick warren, and other's, isn't?
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Who is in charge of the distribution of the tokens, when it is time to pay it out to the shareholders? The primary income of a Bank comes from loans (House/Car/Personal loans and tx fees etc.)

What happens when the price of the tokens crash? Will some centralized authority be in charge to "withdraw" the investment to recover losses for the investor or are you locked into a fixed investment period for this investment?

I want to be in charge of the decisions to bail out of any investment option, if something goes wrong with that investment option. (Even if I have to sell at a loss) ... something like this locks you into a unbreakable contract.  Roll Eyes
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For some minutes I looked at the thread topic as meaning co-owning the world bank but reading the discuss , I see it to relate to the creation by bitcoin founder satoshi. Giving everybody independence to have their money by themselves is indeed a good creation for the world and making government lesser financial controller.

Bitcoin was a boom and many a money decentralized one. The price of product is now based on the demand of that product. Previously it's fixed by the government. This is the impact of the capitalisation. So the emerged of bitcoin make the financial institution as decentralized one.
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This is Satoshi Nakamoto's dream. He wanted to give each person their own bank in hand.
That is right. All of us are co-owners of bitcoin, without any central authorities and regulators behind it and actually this co-owner expression is interesting because at same time I'm in control of bitcoin and my own money I also need you and everybody else on the same level to make bitcoin worthful and usable. Then we are co-owners working co-operatively so everyone can be benefited in the end.
I'm glad people can have this so dreamed independency nowadays due to internet, crypto currency, bitcoin, decentralization and of course, Satoshi Nakamoto.

The true essence why this system was created. Imagine you are the one who's hanlding everything and there's no need for institutional banks or any governmetn interfere. We all dreamed of the success and co owners of this system, we are already seeing developments
and many adoptions sooner or later everything will be fall in place.
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This is Satoshi Nakamoto's dream. He wanted to give each person their own bank in hand.
He wanted to save people from the problems of trusting third parties. And most certainly, he did not want your assets to be seized by the decision of state authorities or that you would have tax liabilities in case the price of the asset increased. The assets were seized by the decision of government authorities or so that you have tax liabilities in the event that the price of the asset increases.
Imagine a Bank that has no management and administration. All these functions are performed by the smart contract program. Anyone who wants to connect to the bank becomes its co-owner. You can place your financial assets as authorized capital in the form of a deposit on your bank account. The bank guarantees the preservation of financial assets by issuing you an equivalent value (smart contract tokens). The bank accumulates financial assets of all co-owners and accrues income for the placement of funds. You can earn by helping others to become co-owners of this bank by providing an opportunity to connect to the bank. You can always get your asset back at any time by returning its guarantees (smart contract tokens) to the bank.
The peculiarity of bank guarantees is that they cannot be depreciated under any circumstances. The smart contract program provides for an increase in the value of tokens depending on the amount (authorized capital) of the bank's deposit. The higher the deposit, the higher the cost of the token.
http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html
I believe that in the future when technology develops in a different position, we can take advantage of everything that you want me to be right. Not sure about this, but I think in the future focus factors will be gradually phased out, and i think BANK is just the past, and then we will have a new concept to call this. Decentralization is absolutely fine which doesn't need to be debated, but the thing is, we need time, looking back to what we built this market after a while, what we have ?, I think If we are still in need of a broader acceptance then we will look forward to what you mentioned.

Looking back is pulling the past with you. A fundamentally new look and approach is needed. A new economic policy is needed that is not based on the Fiat rate, it is necessary that Fiat is determined by the rate of a cryptocurrency that is not subject to centralization and someone's control, as is now happening in the DAO.
The fact that the DAO community manages all of their derivatives from Ethereum and can either nullify or block any tokens they create. In my project, ETH-WORLD tokens do not have control at all and under no circumstances can depreciate. In turn, they influence and manage volatility and ultimately the emission and price of Ethereum itself on the blockchain network.
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This is Satoshi Nakamoto's dream. He wanted to give each person their own bank in hand.
That is right. All of us are co-owners of bitcoin, without any central authorities and regulators behind it and actually this co-owner expression is interesting because at same time I'm in control of bitcoin and my own money I also need you and everybody else on the same level to make bitcoin worthful and usable. Then we are co-owners working co-operatively so everyone can be benefited in the end.
I'm glad people can have this so dreamed independency nowadays due to internet, crypto currency, bitcoin, decentralization and of course, Satoshi Nakamoto.
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This is Satoshi Nakamoto's dream. He wanted to give each person their own bank in hand.
He wanted to save people from the problems of trusting third parties. And most certainly, he did not want your assets to be seized by the decision of state authorities or that you would have tax liabilities in case the price of the asset increased. The assets were seized by the decision of government authorities or so that you have tax liabilities in the event that the price of the asset increases.
Imagine a Bank that has no management and administration. All these functions are performed by the smart contract program. Anyone who wants to connect to the bank becomes its co-owner. You can place your financial assets as authorized capital in the form of a deposit on your bank account. The bank guarantees the preservation of financial assets by issuing you an equivalent value (smart contract tokens). The bank accumulates financial assets of all co-owners and accrues income for the placement of funds. You can earn by helping others to become co-owners of this bank by providing an opportunity to connect to the bank. You can always get your asset back at any time by returning its guarantees (smart contract tokens) to the bank.
The peculiarity of bank guarantees is that they cannot be depreciated under any circumstances. The smart contract program provides for an increase in the value of tokens depending on the amount (authorized capital) of the bank's deposit. The higher the deposit, the higher the cost of the token.
http://prosh.ru/smartcontract.html
I believe that in the future when technology develops in a different position, we can take advantage of everything that you want me to be right. Not sure about this, but I think in the future focus factors will be gradually phased out, and i think BANK is just the past, and then we will have a new concept to call this. Decentralization is absolutely fine which doesn't need to be debated, but the thing is, we need time, looking back to what we built this market after a while, what we have ?, I think If we are still in need of a broader acceptance then we will look forward to what you mentioned.
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What Satoshi wanted was not for us to co-own a bank or a world bank. Satoshi wanted each one of us to be our own independent banks. That means there are no more banks which are operating on behalf of someone else's fund or money. The banks that we know of today are managing people's funds, keeping them, making money out of them, and sometimes withholding them from the owners themselves as if they have the authority to give them back or not.

I don't like to become a co-owner of any bank. I just want to be my own bank.
That's right, all the co-owners of the Central Bank are the owners of their own banks, the Central Bank only controls the total volume of the deposit and the issue of tokens. You do not transfer your ETH to anyone, it is always located at your address in the smart contract
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What Satoshi wanted was not for us to co-own a bank or a world bank. Satoshi wanted each one of us to be our own independent banks. That means there are no more banks which are operating on behalf of someone else's fund or money. The banks that we know of today are managing people's funds, keeping them, making money out of them, and sometimes withholding them from the owners themselves as if they have the authority to give them back or not.

I don't like to become a co-owner of any bank. I just want to be my own bank.
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