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Topic: Wouldn't it be profitable for sig services to offer jobs to newbies-jr.members? (Read 1056 times)

legendary
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Because some new campaigns can't pay competitive prices, since these have been increasing, I think they won't have an alternative than to accept low paid junior members signature.

Since junior members can insert links in their signature and already have some time on the forum, if don't see justification to left them outside.
global moderator
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25 posts a week isn't a lot at all, even for newbies, but it's not really worth it for them as you still get dust, but I suppose it's better than nothing. If you're posting crap all over users will soon find themselves on the receiving end of a ban.
full member
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And lower ranked forum members can take part in the Bitcoin Scratchticket signature deal with referral links. You don't get much but it's better than nothing.

I wouldn't really recommend it. The 25 posts per week are hard to make without spamming. Especially if you're not interested in each and every aspect covered on these forums to make meaningful posts there.

Yes, I acknowledge there are users that easily make more than that in a week without spamming, but those mostly run a service or a project or are actively trading via the forums which in itself leads to quite the number of posts.

That is why I stopped taking part in it myself. I know a bit about mining and have a question here and there, and try to help out where it makes sense. And sometimes there's just interesting stuff in the "Politics and Society" section. But that isn't enough to make 25 non-spam posts per week.

The 50 per month are much more relaxed.


Generally I agree that it is benefiting the forum if only members + are eligible for the majority of the campaigns. What no one has mentioned before: allowing newbie and jr accounts also opens the door too wide to multiaccing. Let's not be naive: People are after a quick penny and some will take any possible route to make as much as possible as quick as possible.
full member
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Even if they offered it, a small signature for Jr.Members, then it won't be as noticeable as a Member's signature, or a Hero's.

But the fact is that it is there. Being noticeable is kind ehh, I mean we all see the links is the thing.

There is a HUGE difference between signatures with big letters, bolded with colors ... and signatures in the smallest font with no color and limited length. Don't you think? The former tend to jump out at me a lot, the latter not so much.

You are right.But having a signature is better than not having one at all.It will help the advertiser in someway more or less and it will be cheap to them as well.  Wink
full member
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Even if they offered it, a small signature for Jr.Members, then it won't be as noticeable as a Member's signature, or a Hero's.

But the fact is that it is there. Being noticeable is kind ehh, I mean we all see the links is the thing.

There is a HUGE difference between signatures with big letters, bolded with colors ... and signatures in the smallest font with no color and limited length. Don't you think? The former tend to jump out at me a lot, the latter not so much.
hero member
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Even if they offered it, a small signature for Jr.Members, then it won't be as noticeable as a Member's signature, or a Hero's.

But the fact is that it is there. Being noticeable is kind ehh, I mean we all see the links is the thing.

But if it draws more attention (For instance, my red Ritz signature is just BAM, since it's a 'lighter' color compared to Up/Down, PD, and FXO) then that increases the chances of it being clicked. Would you prefer a plain colored link, that doesn't look exciting, or a few shades of blue?
legendary
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Even if they offered it, a small signature for Jr.Members, then it won't be as noticeable as a Member's signature, or a Hero's.

But the fact is that it is there. Being noticeable is kind ehh, I mean we all see the links is the thing.
hero member
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Even if they offered it, a small signature for Jr.Members, then it won't be as noticeable as a Member's signature, or a Hero's.
legendary
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There would be spamming for one thing. You'd have people joining the forums to spam around the sig. In a way that would be good for the advertiser but still.
sr. member
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newbies can't have links. jr members have a small character limit. and opening campaigns to brand new members does little in the way of deterring spam.
sr. member
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The biggest with Jr. Members and Newbies is that they spam. They will take any method of getting Bitcoins and will abuse Signature Campaigns because of that. I don't say that every Jr. Member and Newbie does it, but there have been enough so that Signature Campaign owners restricted them.

I absolutely agree with you, but also think their could campaigns even for them. I image it like this: you can have several advertisements in signature as long as it is visible + you get some small price (like 0.000003 or something)  for every post you make. Only flaw is that it would need to use relyable micro transaction platform for small payments.
sr. member
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The biggest with Jr. Members and Newbies is that they spam. They will take any method of getting Bitcoins and will abuse Signature Campaigns because of that. I don't say that every Jr. Member and Newbie does it, but there have been enough so that Signature Campaign owners restricted them.

I think it is quite to the contrary.

Most signature campaign owners want their brand name to be spammed.

All of the campaigns that offer to pay per post want that.
They have rules against extremely short posts ,just to make the public see some integrity.
I don't think there is any real way you can post 3000 posts per month , without spamming.

Newbies though cannot have links or even coloring , hence no advertisers want to hire them.
Jr. Members can use only links but have a character limit , hence most signatures don't fit.

Many campaigns hire Jr.Members anyways , but if you are a Newbie , it is impossible.

I don't think they want it spammed. Yes, some people do spam it, but not all. I'm guessing they just want their brand name well known. Not exactly spammed. Why would they want it spammed when signature deals like PD have a army of people?
Spamming it makes more people aware of it, regardless of whether the post itself is constructive or not. Each posts adds to the visibility of the site. Even spam advertising is good advertising for them.
hero member
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The biggest with Jr. Members and Newbies is that they spam. They will take any method of getting Bitcoins and will abuse Signature Campaigns because of that. I don't say that every Jr. Member and Newbie does it, but there have been enough so that Signature Campaign owners restricted them.

I think it is quite to the contrary.

Most signature campaign owners want their brand name to be spammed.

All of the campaigns that offer to pay per post want that.
They have rules against extremely short posts ,just to make the public see some integrity.
I don't think there is any real way you can post 3000 posts per month , without spamming.

Newbies though cannot have links or even coloring , hence no advertisers want to hire them.
Jr. Members can use only links but have a character limit , hence most signatures don't fit.

Many campaigns hire Jr.Members anyways , but if you are a Newbie , it is impossible.

I don't think they want it spammed. Yes, some people do spam it, but not all. I'm guessing they just want their brand name well known. Not exactly spammed. Why would they want it spammed when signature deals like PD have a army of people?
legendary
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The biggest with Jr. Members and Newbies is that they spam. They will take any method of getting Bitcoins and will abuse Signature Campaigns because of that. I don't say that every Jr. Member and Newbie does it, but there have been enough so that Signature Campaign owners restricted them.

I think it is quite to the contrary.

Most signature campaign owners want their brand name to be spammed.

All of the campaigns that offer to pay per post want that.
They have rules against extremely short posts ,just to make the public see some integrity.
I don't think there is any real way you can post 3000 posts per month , without spamming.

Newbies though cannot have links or even coloring , hence no advertisers want to hire them.
Jr. Members can use only links but have a character limit , hence most signatures don't fit.

Many campaigns hire Jr.Members anyways , but if you are a Newbie , it is impossible.
sr. member
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And also if it was like this, what stops each one of us to open several accounts and spam?
legendary
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The biggest with Jr. Members and Newbies is that they spam. They will take any method of getting Bitcoins and will abuse Signature Campaigns because of that. I don't say that every Jr. Member and Newbie does it, but there have been enough so that Signature Campaign owners restricted them.
Hello,
You are absolutely right! The forum is getting crowded with newvies who are posting meanless things all over here and also trying to scam people who dodnt know some basic things
BR
newbie
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As a newbie myself I believe the system as it is works very well. I understand that if I contribute to the forum constructively then eventually I will be able to access greater and greater rewards as my experience with Bitcoin and the forum grows. This makes perfect sense to me.
sr. member
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I think there used to be some for jr members. I think it would be good for jr members, but for newbies you can create endless accounts.
hero member
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Newbie's have to learn how everything works first, and then they can place posts which are not full of BS, also, I think Bitcoin should be about "doing something" to earn, nothing comes at ease here is what I'm trying to say.

member
Activity: 83
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The biggest with Jr. Members and Newbies is that they spam. They will take any method of getting Bitcoins and will abuse Signature Campaigns because of that. I don't say that every Jr. Member and Newbie does it, but there have been enough so that Signature Campaign owners restricted them.

Maybe not.  I've seen some newbies post some pretty good posts.  Plus, the forum restricts their number of posts per x... like every 360 seconds Smiley

Not all Newbies have this restriction , you have to wait 360 seconds only till you get 16 activity from It the wait time decreases a lot, there Is table somewhere with Activity vs wait time.
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