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Topic: WTB: a "virus" (Read 2180 times)
I think having this, at last, will ease the paranoia a bit. How much of a donation would you like, good sir?
You can pay me whatever you consider my help to be worth to you (but of course, within your budget :) 
Nice, that's an interesting feature! Combine the previous crashing commented above in a keyboard/mouse listener to trigger, and mark the program as essential. :]
Crash if it closes, crash if click, crash if typed on. That sounds like Windows itself! Har har. :U
Crash if it closes, crash if click, crash if typed on. That sounds like Windows itself! Har har. :U
I think having this, at last, will ease the paranoia a bit. How much of a donation would you like, good sir?
https://tyler.menez.es/articles/trigger-a-bsod-when-your-process-is-closed.html
Perhaps you could make a screensaver that behaves like that?
Perhaps you could make a screensaver that behaves like that?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff551948%28VS.85%29.aspx
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/start_blue_screen.html (dunno if it works on Win7, but it says it works on Vista and XP)
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/start_blue_screen.html (dunno if it works on Win7, but it says it works on Vista and XP)
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If this works out, I love you. G2g to work right now - full time 8-4, hence not much time for writing or researching this stuff myself - will try it later.
http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/start_blue_screen.html (dunno if it works on Win7, but it says it works on Vista and XP)
@ Sekioh, that's not an issue.
This discussion is over. I'm not going and detailing every security measure ever and every reason why. All I want is a program for this, or a guide for this, hell a couple of pointers inside a C function will do me at this point if they'll crash the computers. If you're willing to do something towards what I've asked, rather than argue about how it's unnecessary, let me know.
This discussion is over. I'm not going and detailing every security measure ever and every reason why. All I want is a program for this, or a guide for this, hell a couple of pointers inside a C function will do me at this point if they'll crash the computers. If you're willing to do something towards what I've asked, rather than argue about how it's unnecessary, let me know.
My point was, even a pseudo-'virus' would be in the RAM, and still prone to a reboot into a live-distro of tools or *nix. It's still software and therefore bypassable, your only security if someone was physically at a computer is the drive being encrypted, that is ALL you can do to a computer to protect it from a few minutes of being prepared. Rebooting would even help, you can't hook a virus early enough on to stop booting into safe mode or the recovery console. At that point only way to secure the system outside of encrypted disk is a custom bios layer, and THAT would get expensive.
Depends on their capabilities, TH had a good article on passwords and encryption a few months back
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/password-recovery-gpu,2945.html
Worth a read if you're worried about security
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/password-recovery-gpu,2945.html
Worth a read if you're worried about security
Sure, if they want to spend a few hundred years at it. This way they don't get it the easy way.
Well your 'virus' would be the same as a keyboard hook in that regard, it's still software running in background, and an autorunning script off a usb/cd/flash media can run some task killing events if the systems not locked down from power accounts. If it's secure THAT way, then keyboard hook would be still faster and easier to worry about with a remote app for disabling from a password over the local network.
I'm betting the first thing anyone would do is plug in a monitor and hit a key to wake it up, if not just unplug it and take it. I did actually give this some thought before I decided to pay somebody to do it. Also, no autorun. The software side is locked up tight, but if someone knows the login pw it's all over. This is to be like a time delay lock on a safe. Even with the key you can't open it.
If they physically take it all bets are off only physical destruction will ensure data safety, look at what we're doing we're running SHA-256 hashes anyone intent on stealing your data is going to remove the hdd and have at it
Well your 'virus' would be the same as a keyboard hook in that regard, it's still software running in background, and an autorunning script off a usb/cd/flash media can run some task killing events if the systems not locked down from power accounts. If it's secure THAT way, then keyboard hook would be still faster and easier to worry about with a remote app for disabling from a password over the local network.
I'm betting the first thing anyone would do is plug in a monitor and hit a key to wake it up, if not just unplug it and take it. I did actually give this some thought before I decided to pay somebody to do it. Also, no autorun. The software side is locked up tight, but if someone knows the login pw it's all over. This is to be like a time delay lock on a safe. Even with the key you can't open it.
Well your 'virus' would be the same as a keyboard hook in that regard, it's still software running in background, and an autorunning script off a usb/cd/flash media can run some task killing events if the systems not locked down from power accounts. If it's secure THAT way, then keyboard hook would be still faster and easier to worry about with a remote app for disabling from a password over the local network.
Honestly, stop picking it apart. I think I made it fairly clear what I need. Nothing software based, ie a kbd hook, that leaves it running and vulnerable will do. Even if you could just tell me how to do it. In whatever language you like. And I can do the rest re interface.
Also, @ whoever said it was still vulnerable to a cold boot, I know. Anything short of a triple prot fault leaves the comp running with keys in memory. The bioses also do a full mem init on boot, so anyone short of well equipped police wont be able to get anything from it, and they're not who I'm protecting the systems from. Hell, I'm aussie, they cld prob put me in jail indefinitely until I just told them the pw.
Also, @ whoever said it was still vulnerable to a cold boot, I know. Anything short of a triple prot fault leaves the comp running with keys in memory. The bioses also do a full mem init on boot, so anyone short of well equipped police wont be able to get anything from it, and they're not who I'm protecting the systems from. Hell, I'm aussie, they cld prob put me in jail indefinitely until I just told them the pw.
If it takes a hacker 2 programs to allow access for this, then that person sucks...
Win 7 and Win XP are very different. So are the CPUs on each machine. What bluescreens XP may not affect 7, and vice versa.Just lock the keyboard?
Shit, why didn't I think of that? Anyone bring their own keyboard? And if you mean software, anyone bring something to unlock it?Just unbind them when you want them to be able to use their keyboard.
No back doors, and open legible source is a MUST.
Good fucking luck, maybe if someone where to code it in Delphi you'd have fun reading the source? 
PM me to make a price offer or for more details.
I'd like to see the price for this as well.
If it takes a hacker 2 programs to allow access for this, then that person sucks...
Win 7 and Win XP are very different. So are the CPUs on each machine. What bluescreens XP may not affect 7, and vice versa.Just lock the keyboard?
Shit, why didn't I think of that? Anyone bring their own keyboard? And if you mean software, anyone bring something to unlock it?No back doors, and open legible source is a MUST.
Good fucking luck, maybe if someone where to code it in Delphi you'd have fun reading the source? PM me to make a price offer or for more details.
I'd like to see the price for this as well.@ovidiusoft, I thought of that too, was almost going to build a killswitch myself, but the computers I'm protecting are on 24-7 and not convenient to physically access, so I don't want false alarms killing them and having to go find out what's wrong. Besides, an IP isn't going to know if someone's using it. I'd have to get the alert, notice, connect to it and shut it down myself. This just seems tidier. I can't imagine it costing too much time or effort for someone who knows what they're doing. Doesn't have to be an android app controlling it, anything simple and secure will do.
And yeah, I'm paranoid. Deal with it.
OP, what you really want is a IP remote power device. You can get a dedicated one, or some UPS-es will have this function. It's safer than running any software solution, and it will definitely cost you less than development for what you want.
Also keep in mind that cold boot attacks are easy enough for someone who know what they're doing, so you should make sure that there is at least a 3-5 minutes time frame between the moment that you power off and the moment that someone has access to the computer. Thoroughly secured computer case with no external USB/CDROM access, and having the room secured with a heavy metal door will do. Also, no windows, basement is perfect.
On the other hard, if you need that kind of security you're either completely paranoid, or involved in some deep illegal stuff. Either way, you should get help or "help"
Also keep in mind that cold boot attacks are easy enough for someone who know what they're doing, so you should make sure that there is at least a 3-5 minutes time frame between the moment that you power off and the moment that someone has access to the computer. Thoroughly secured computer case with no external USB/CDROM access, and having the room secured with a heavy metal door will do. Also, no windows, basement is perfect.
On the other hard, if you need that kind of security you're either completely paranoid, or involved in some deep illegal stuff. Either way, you should get help or "help"
One for XP SP3, one for Win 7
If it takes a hacker 2 programs to allow access for this, then that person sucks...I want it to be able to instantly and unrecoverably BSOD and reset (ie triple fault) the computers if any key is pressed, or a mouse button, once it's activated, from both a locked login screen or an active session.
Just lock the keyboard?No back doors, and open legible source is a MUST.
Good fucking luck, maybe if someone where to code it in Delphi you'd have fun reading the source? PM me to make a price offer or for more details.
I'd like to see the price for this as well.-----
All this sounds like LogMeIn or something...