WTB - Im looking for 2BTC - Paypal - Gox price - page 3.

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Quote from: Exdeus on November 19, 2013, 09:57:13 AM

i sent him paypal payment and i did get the coins.. my post can be found

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740

i also left positive feedback for the user.

my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller.

OK, fine, maybe he should not have done the chargeback so fast, stated above several times and now assumed a given.

At this point that is water under the bridge. Both parties agree that the BTC were never sent. Therefore the seller should immediatly refund the PayPal USD and we can put this all behind us. Why has he not issued a refund? Why all the bluster about lawyers, etc? He has no reason to not issue the refund.

All this calling each other scammer is total bullshit. However:

I would not do business with the buyer since he is so "trigger happy" with the chargeback.

I would not do business with the seller as he has not issued the refund and most likely is using a sockpuppet to try and bolster his "case" whatever that is.

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i sent him paypal payment and i did get the coins.. my post can be found

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/wtb-btc-for-paypal-337740

i also left positive feedback for the user.

my transaction took place about 2 hours before this "scam" took place. it took him around 40 mins to send the coins not sure why you did a chargeback so fast you could have waited a few hours. As you made the chargeback so fast i would have thought you warrant a scammertag. This is based on my experince with the seller. I am happy to post a printscreen on the transaction. I don’t normally post but you seem to have a serious attitude problem.

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Quote from: bitcoiner222 on November 19, 2013, 03:45:10 AM

Hi Stevenrm87,

The police could find out your adress: You live in the United States in San Jose, California? That is great because our company is also located in the US (Nevada).
You will receive very funny letters from the police next time for calling us "scammers" and "bastards". Of course you could delete the posts but we personally had showed our police department and our lawyer the posted texts and had saved them in screenshots and other useful things, so you could let them there Wink

Cheers
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Quote from: cindi32 on November 19, 2013, 01:21:06 AM

I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.

Cindi32

Then you can post here the transactions IDs of these two transactions.

If not I also call sockpuppet.

cindi32

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Hi,

No, I am not female. Would be strange if a woman is interested in BTC. Wink

My real first name is Cindeo (Autralian name) and to be creative I wrote "Cindi32". I am 32 years old (32)

Cindi32 OR Cindeo

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still looking? i got .5 btc tryna paypal out.

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Quote from: bitcoiner222 on November 18, 2013, 03:32:40 PM

Well, I can`t, because our wallet is manually and now I have cancelled the transaction.
But I can show everyone here, that he used the chargebackfunction within minutes after ordering the BTC.

LOL at this

bitcoiner222 - why are you getting the police involved if you haven't lost anything? If you did send BTC, please could you post the transaction ID. Also please let me know which bitcoin client you're using that allows you to cancel transactions after they have been initiated? It sounds like a perfect client to use for paypal transactions because after sending BTC you can just cancel if there is a paypal chargeback... Cheesy

Hi Cindi - if you're female (as your name suggests), you must be one of the only female users on this forum

On a more serious note: Stevenrm87 - as BurtW said, in future, give it a few hours at least because if you'd bought from a genuine seller and you had initiated chargeback within minutes, the bitcoins would not have reached you yet (because there wouldn't yet be 6 confirmations) but they would have left the seller's wallet on their way to you. Therefore a chargeback at that stage might have led to serious scammer accusations against you. I believe you have 45 days for chargeback under paypal terms as I understand it so there's no rush - please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Hi Stevenrm87,

The police could find out your adress: You live in the United States in San Jose, California? That is great because our company is also located in the US (Nevada).
You will receive very funny letters from the police next time for calling us "scammers" and "bastards". Of course you could delete the posts but we personally had showed our police department and our lawyer the posted texts and had saved them in screenshots and other useful things, so you could let them there Wink

Cheers
Bitcoiner222

cindi32

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I need not to justify myself. Ask the other members who bought from him, they were happy.

Cindi32

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Quote from: cindi32 on November 19, 2013, 01:50:33 AM

Quote from: lencom on November 19, 2013, 01:34:18 AM

Quote from: cindi32 on November 19, 2013, 01:21:06 AM

I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.

Cindi32

How is that possible with 3 posts.. You never posted u needed anything.. LOL.. I smell something fishy!

Of course that is true. I only had PMed his threads in which he wrotes that he selles BTC for PayPal. So I do not need to post to be a seriously guy. As you can see in my profile, I was already registered since more than a week. And I am not a paid poster from him, other (full-) members are posting in his threads positive feedbacks and reviews too.

Cindi32

BUSTED. In his past forum posts.. no where does it say he sold btc.. he's been buying. Try again. This does not look good.

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Quote from: lencom on November 19, 2013, 01:34:18 AM

Quote from: cindi32 on November 19, 2013, 01:21:06 AM

I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.

Cindi32

How is that possible with 3 posts.. You never posted u needed anything.. LOL.. I smell something fishy!

Of course that is true. I only had PMed his threads in which he wrotes that he selles BTC for PayPal. So I do not need to post to be a seriously guy. As you can see in my profile, I was already registered since more than a week. And I am not a paid poster from him, other (full-) members are posting in his threads positive feedbacks and reviews too.

Cindi32

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Quote from: cindi32 on November 19, 2013, 01:21:06 AM

I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.

Cindi32

lol sure dude

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Quote from: cindi32 on November 19, 2013, 01:21:06 AM

I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.

Cindi32

How is that possible with 3 posts.. You never posted u needed anything.. LOL.. I smell something fishy!

cindi32

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I already had ordered from this selller two days ago an amount of 1.5 BTC and everything worked fine.
Also I tried this seller last week when I was ordering just a small amount of 0.2 BTC and it also worked great.

Cindi32

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And to add he stated he would send the BTC "immediately" after I sent PayPal. Then started to say couple hours,,, then days... If he intended to or not (I believe he did not even have the BTC to sell) he broke the written agreement and in my book was enough to call off the transaction in its entirety (specially since I received nothing anyway)

Then he starts spouting off lawyer this and that... Just delays just excused to have me wait. Im not THAT stupid (although a little for trying to work with him in the first place)

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Quote from: BurtW on November 18, 2013, 10:56:07 PM

BTC buyer: You were a bit quick to push the chargeback button. You could have waited a few days. No need to be in such a hurry. You have plenty of time to do a chargeback.

BTC seller: WTF? It is totally to your advantage to cancel this transaction and send a full refund. The price of BTC is going up, up, up. You can sell the BTC for a higher price tomorrow. Refund the money now. No need to talk to your lawyer - what the hell does he know anyway? Does your lawyer understand Bitcoins? I doubt it. If you do not refund the money you are a scammer because there is no reason anywhere on Earth that you would even want to try keep the money (unless you are a scammer). Do you see what I am saying here? Think about it: If you do not play nice and refund the money he is going to get it back anyway! And you never sent the BTC so you are not out anything. Refund the money, clear your name and let's all move on.

You are right. I was quick, The reason was all communication stopped once I sent the funds AND I got a message from a user stating they dealt with this guy and he scammed them as well. BUT I did give him an out although to prove he was not scamming. The solution was to simply reverse my PayPal payment and call it a day. Once he refused that I went from claiming he was Possibly scammer to IS a scammer.

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BTC buyer: You were a bit quick to push the chargeback button. You could have waited a few days. No need to be in such a hurry. You have plenty of time to do a chargeback.

BTC seller: WTF? It is totally to your advantage to cancel this transaction and send a full refund. The price of BTC is going up, up, up. You can sell the BTC for a higher price tomorrow. Refund the money now. No need to talk to your lawyer - what the hell does he know anyway? Does your lawyer understand Bitcoins? I doubt it. If you do not refund the money you are a scammer because there is no reason anywhere on Earth that you would even want to try keep the money (unless you are a scammer). Do you see what I am saying here? Think about it: If you do not play nice and refund the money he is going to get it back anyway! And you never sent the BTC so you are not out anything. Refund the money, clear your name and let's all move on.

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Quote from: Stevenrm87 on November 18, 2013, 03:35:07 PM

How about this. Since you have not sent any BTC to me. Its simple Just refund the amount I sent via Paypal and well call it a day. If you do not agree to that. You truly are a scammer and none of this can be blamed on "miscommunication"

What say you

I just will wait until our laywer answers me. Then I would see, if I will do a transaction with you again. You will receive the answer tomorrow, OK?
Until this time, please do not send the money back to my PP-account and reply again: You are a scammer!

Please write if that would be OK for you.

Cheers
Bitcoiner222

Woops, wrong answer. You just drove the last nail in your own scammer coffin.

Thank You Sir for calling him out. This guy is a joke and a scammer and deserves to be labeled as such.

Steven

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Quote from: Stevenrm87 on November 18, 2013, 03:45:50 PM

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Quote from: Stevenrm87 on November 18, 2013, 03:35:07 PM

How about this. Since you have not sent any BTC to me. Its simple Just refund the amount I sent via Paypal and well call it a day. If you do not agree to that. You truly are a scammer and none of this can be blamed on "miscommunication"

What say you

I just will wait until our laywer answers me. Then I would see, if I will do a transaction with you again. You will receive the answer tomorrow, OK?
Until this time, please do not send the money back to my PP-account and reply again: You are a scammer!

Please write if that would be OK for you.

Cheers
Bitcoiner222

So you refuse to refund my paypal payment even though you never sent me any BTC and you have the audacity to call me a scammer? Its simple, refund my payment, none of us lose anything except our time and well call it a day. Do you agree?

I already wrote the answer: Tomorrow I will tell you after talking to our lawyer.
And no: That is no thing to post again: He is a scammer, because he did not agree today.
I promise that tomorrow I will reply.
AND: If you would trade with me again, you have to delete every single wrong message about me in this forum. (It would be done by our lawyer/police, but I think that it is better for you, if you do it without another person.)

Cheers
Bitcoiner222

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Quote from: Stevenrm87 on November 18, 2013, 03:35:07 PM

How about this. Since you have not sent any BTC to me. Its simple Just refund the amount I sent via Paypal and well call it a day. If you do not agree to that. You truly are a scammer and none of this can be blamed on "miscommunication"

What say you

I just will wait until our laywer answers me. Then I would see, if I will do a transaction with you again. You will receive the answer tomorrow, OK?
Until this time, please do not send the money back to my PP-account and reply again: You are a scammer!

Please write if that would be OK for you.

Cheers
Bitcoiner222

Woops, wrong answer. You just drove the last nail in your own scammer coffin.

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