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Topic: [WTB]: One fake 10oz Engelhard silver plated bar, one 1oz fake Engelhard bar - page 2. (Read 3883 times)

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Right.  I'm aware.

I'd like to sit down with a 10oz real bar, a 10oz fake bar, and compare them in a variety of tests.  I've seen various claims made, various claims argued against, and I want to take state of the art in fakes and evaluate it. Smiley
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Right.  I'm aware.

I'd like to sit down with a 10oz real bar, a 10oz fake bar, and compare them in a variety of tests.  I've seen various claims made, various claims argued against, and I want to take state of the art in fakes and evaluate it. Smiley
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I bet they sound different than real bars
They do, and it's a common trick used to test authenticity. Fake stuff is more of a thud instead of a ping. I would just stick to the density test, there's no possible way to beat that, given standard bullion measurements.
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I bet they sound different than real bars
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On silk road there are fake silver bars, honestly they are your best bet if you want to test them. After visiting the site and seeing those I will now question all the silver and gold I ever buy. Sad people make such things.

I'm aware, and I don't want to pay 0.8 btc or so for one shipped when a real bar is 2.2 btc.

My goal is to get one or more of the "good fakes," compare them to the real bars, and provide some useful metrics for identifying the fake ones.  I know they look real, and supposedly pass the magnetic eddy current tests, but I assume there are easily determined differences in size.  Worst case, you can use an ultrasonic thickness gauge (they've gotten cheap) to positively identify the metal.  I just don't want to buy a lot of fake bars, which is what I'd have to do to get them for a good price off alibaba.
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There is a 1oz silver plated Engelhard round on Bitmit.
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I would like to obtain 1x fake 10oz Engelhard silver bar (I know they're out there), and 1x fake 1oz Engelhard silver bar.

I don't want to pay the 0.7 btc that certain people are charging on some sites, because I know they're a whole hell of a lot cheaper than that to obtain.

I'm looking to pay around 0.2 btc shipped to the USA for the 11oz of fake/plated silver.

I'd like to characterize them and test some techniques for identifying fake silver.  These bars are supposedly using a more sophisticated alloy that more accurately resembles silver than some of the older fakes.

They might be out there, but the 1 Oz fakes are more expensive than the real 1 oz bar. 1 Oz bars/coins aren't faked often, unless they are collectors items, because its realitively expensive to fake them well. 10 Oz fakes aren't that uncommon, but most of them are really bad quality. If they are good quality, they get spendy pretty quickly. (maybe check Ebay?)

I remember looking into this when I was buying a lot of 1Oz silver coins/bars, and in order for it to be profitable for 1 Oz fakes to be made, the price of silver had to be over $38/oz, so .7BTC might not be too far off for both. The materials they make the fakes out of are cheaper, but the machining costs are pretty high.

On silk road there are fake silver bars, honestly they are your best bet if you want to test them. After visiting the site and seeing those I will now question all the silver and gold I ever buy. Sad people make such things.
legendary
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Welcome to the SaltySpitoon, how Tough are ya?
I would like to obtain 1x fake 10oz Engelhard silver bar (I know they're out there), and 1x fake 1oz Engelhard silver bar.

I don't want to pay the 0.7 btc that certain people are charging on some sites, because I know they're a whole hell of a lot cheaper than that to obtain.

I'm looking to pay around 0.2 btc shipped to the USA for the 11oz of fake/plated silver.

I'd like to characterize them and test some techniques for identifying fake silver.  These bars are supposedly using a more sophisticated alloy that more accurately resembles silver than some of the older fakes.

They might be out there, but the 1 Oz fakes are more expensive than the real 1 oz bar. 1 Oz bars/coins aren't faked often, unless they are collectors items, because its realitively expensive to fake them well. 10 Oz fakes aren't that uncommon, but most of them are really bad quality. If they are good quality, they get spendy pretty quickly. (maybe check Ebay?)

I remember looking into this when I was buying a lot of 1Oz silver coins/bars, and in order for it to be profitable for 1 Oz fakes to be made, the price of silver had to be over $38/oz, so .7BTC might not be too far off for both. The materials they make the fakes out of are cheaper, but the machining costs are pretty high.
sr. member
Activity: 420
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I would like to obtain 1x fake 10oz Engelhard silver bar (I know they're out there), and 1x fake 1oz Engelhard silver bar.

I don't want to pay the 0.7 btc that certain people are charging on some sites, because I know they're a whole hell of a lot cheaper than that to obtain.

I'm looking to pay around 0.2 btc shipped to the USA for the 11oz of fake/plated silver.

I'd like to characterize them and test some techniques for identifying fake silver.  These bars are supposedly using a more sophisticated alloy that more accurately resembles silver than some of the older fakes.
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