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Topic: [WTB] Website Design & Development (Litecoin payment) (Read 2246 times)

legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
Terk didn't start this, you did. You're clearly a man who likes to get the last word in, so I'll leave it at that. If you want to waste your time replying, defending your post count's reputation, so be it; I'll never reply.

How did i start it by saying he didn't have experience with the litecoind, which he even said in his post, he would have to learn it. I am not defending post count, he said he had no experience with the litecoind that makes him a newbie on this planet. I am replying and proving that your very wrong, go read the post yourself.

Being new doesn't matter so much, it's OK. It sounds like you are an experienced developer, but do you have any experience with Bitcoin/Litecoin integration?
I don't, but I read about it

He said it. Then he tried to over charge the guy, I was being nice and said 12BTC which is in his budget. So how am I a prat again?
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
As a web designer myself, and one of these noobies you speak of, I feel obliged to say that you've made yourself look like a complete prat, gweedo.

Go with Terk. You get what you pay for.

Thank you for your input as you can clearly read Terk has the job cause I don't want the job even if Coinhoarder gives it to me I will decline. So I guess you support being a scummy person? Nice to know I will mark that.

How am I a "prat" first off define that word "prat" never heard it in my life. And am I one cause I saving the guy money by going with someone in his budget? Terk got all mad cause he assumed too much just like you.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
I never wrote anything about the backend. I wrote that the frontend code suggests your skill level. You use HTML 5 doctype, yet you use deprecated tags. You use   for elements spacing instead of proper CSS. You didn't even know how to use Bootstrap properly, so you just wrapped everything in a
tag which also has been deprecated for years. You hot-link images from external websites instead of downloading and validating them, and then hosting from your site. The URLs suggest not using any framework, not even some simple URL routing and layer separation - it's just a PHP file per feature, with most likely totally mixed HTML/PHP code inside. Relative file paths, not relative to docroot, are nothing wrong per se, but also suggest lack of good habits. Also, I haven't seen page urls like “addtodirectory.php” or “index.php?page=2” in any professional work for years (instead of “/add” or “/2”).
Heh, pwnt Smiley

pwnt? he didn't pwnt anything especially if your saying it. Don't get me started on your skills.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
It is all good, I will make this really easy for you, let him have the job for 15 BTC, cause I just don't even understand why he had to attack my career and my site, pretty scummy thing to do. Especially when he hasn't put a site of his own. If he needs a job that bad, then let him have it. I take my skills to someone else, it aint worth it to fight.

I'm sorry for that, but I don't feel like I attacked you, at least I only commented after you tried to undermine me. I clicked on link in your signature only after you wrote about cleaning the mess after me - to see what your work looks like and try to understand basis for your claims. No harm intended, peace.

You really said Peace what a wussy, own up to it at least, you assumed and you attacked, it is ok it happens to the best of us. But yet you went off on my sites, dude give me a url to your site privately, I need to see your site, and make sure it has a TXT file in the root so I know it's yours.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
Terk you must be one insecure person about your code? First off your angry at something that wasn't even a slam to you. I was just surprised that CoinHoarder took a 15BTC over a 12BTC more experience person in the forum. It wasn't even a thing about you. Yet you took it so hard. End of story. You keep trying to slam me, OMG I forgot to use htaccess to make clean urls OMG I used  , Sorry I don't read the HTML standards all day, also that site was built for a person, so you do know he didn't want to host the images, he runs the server, I had to play by his rules. If you need 15BTC then sir you can take this job, this aint hurting me.

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I don't feel comfortable fingering things like that in public, but you specifically asked for that and it's you who started undermining me, writing about “cleaning the mess after me”, while not having any basis for that.

Yet you have no problem doing it twice. I said that cause, I get pms all day about someone paying a newbie on the forum for a job and they find out it is too much for them handle and they just leave. That was a slight against newbies not you.

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We clearly have our differences about each other skills (though I have no idea what are your basis)

Yeah cause your too much of a wussy to show your sites. OMG like my day job I don't want to bleed into here. You didn't even show a github account or anything that wouldn't expose your day job.


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No offense towards you gweedo.

No offense yet your calling me out on stuff that doesn't even make a difference nit picker. My sites work, and they never been hacked, and they make money.

I work for myself at 23, we all know you have 15 yrs of web development you aint working for yourself, your probably 37yr and live with your parents.

So I don't care about the job anymore, you can take it. It doesn't mean that much to me, I make money from other jobs, just as easily.


Btw done over a hundred jobs on these forums just so you know Wink Not one hacked or complaint.
legendary
Activity: 1498
Merit: 1000
Ah.. I'm still up..

What a mess, I feel bad for creating a dispute. Just settle down guys.. there will be other projects to develop all the time around here. People are always asking for web development, etc. Smiley

I will finish this in PMs as to not cause any more drama.

No need to argue.

Thanks again,

Ch

It is all good, I will make this really easy for you, let him have the job for 15 BTC, cause I just don't even understand why he had to attack my career and my site, pretty scummy thing to do. Especially when he hasn't put a site of his own. If he needs a job that bad, then let him have it. I take my skills to someone else, it aint worth it to fight.
full member
Activity: 185
Merit: 100
I'm a fairly competent programmer and web dev with a penchant for sanitizing inputs.

Pricing: I bid at $1400 USD to be paid in LTC. I'll accept a small down payment and then the majority after completion. If I don't complete the project in a satisfactory or timely manor, a refund relative to the amount of salvageable code that another programmer can pick up from will be given.

Requirements: To accept litecoin, I see two routes; one requires utilizing a server/vps and having a wallet on their to forward funds. The other could be done on just a webhost, via juggling of a set amount of address, but it would be prone to delays if all the addresses are filled. On that note: for this project, will the dev be managing hosting and server security?

Bonus Points: The autoloading will probably require a hot-wallet on a server (and will therefore require a server/vps instead of a simple webhost), but could be partially avoided if the user is paying in LTC since some of their own funds can be forwarded to the physical coin (essentially using their payment address as a temp hotwallet).
member
Activity: 104
Merit: 10
As a web designer myself, and one of these noobies you speak of, I feel obliged to say that you've made yourself look like a complete prat, gweedo.

Go with Terk. You get what you pay for.

Thank you for your input as you can clearly read Terk has the job cause I don't want the job even if Coinhoarder gives it to me I will decline. So I guess you support being a scummy person? Nice to know I will mark that.

How am I a "prat" first off define that word "prat" never heard it in my life. And am I one cause I saving the guy money by going with someone in his budget? Terk got all mad cause he assumed too much just like you.

First off, Prat: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=prat

Terk didn't start this, you did. You're clearly a man who likes to get the last word in, so I'll leave it at that. If you want to waste your time replying, defending your post count's reputation, so be it; I'll never reply.
member
Activity: 104
Merit: 10
As a web designer myself, and one of these noobies you speak of, I feel obliged to say that you've made yourself look like a complete prat, gweedo. You started the attack; you brought this on yourself. Now man up and call it a day.

Go with Terk. You get what you pay for.
vip
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1042
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I never wrote anything about the backend. I wrote that the frontend code suggests your skill level. You use HTML 5 doctype, yet you use deprecated tags. You use   for elements spacing instead of proper CSS. You didn't even know how to use Bootstrap properly, so you just wrapped everything in a
tag which also has been deprecated for years. You hot-link images from external websites instead of downloading and validating them, and then hosting from your site. The URLs suggest not using any framework, not even some simple URL routing and layer separation - it's just a PHP file per feature, with most likely totally mixed HTML/PHP code inside. Relative file paths, not relative to docroot, are nothing wrong per se, but also suggest lack of good habits. Also, I haven't seen page urls like “addtodirectory.php” or “index.php?page=2” in any professional work for years (instead of “/add” or “/2”).
Heh, pwnt Smiley
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 522
It is all good, I will make this really easy for you, let him have the job for 15 BTC, cause I just don't even understand why he had to attack my career and my site, pretty scummy thing to do. Especially when he hasn't put a site of his own. If he needs a job that bad, then let him have it. I take my skills to someone else, it aint worth it to fight.

I'm sorry for that, but I don't feel like I attacked you, at least I only commented after you tried to undermine me. I clicked on link in your signature only after you wrote about cleaning the mess after me - to see what your work looks like and try to understand basis for your claims. No harm intended, peace.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 522
On to my site and the defense, the site doesn't require a nice looking front-end which is bootstrap, so your saying a messy front-end which is just a framework isn't really saying you know too much.

Of course it's Twitter Bootstrap. You used top navbar and bottom pagination from standard Bootstrap elements. And these are the only elements on the page that look well. Everything between them is what you've coded by yourself and it looks like a mess. Nothing's even aligned.

Also don't you know you can't tell anything about php it is all backend, how do you even know what my code looks like?

I never wrote anything about the backend. I wrote that the frontend code suggests your skill level. You use HTML 5 doctype, yet you use deprecated tags. You use   for elements spacing instead of proper CSS. You didn't even know how to use Bootstrap properly, so you just wrapped everything in a
tag which also has been deprecated for years. You hot-link images from external websites instead of downloading and validating them, and then hosting from your site. The URLs suggest not using any framework, not even some simple URL routing and layer separation - it's just a PHP file per feature, with most likely totally mixed HTML/PHP code inside. Relative file paths, not relative to docroot, are nothing wrong per se, but also suggest lack of good habits. Also, I haven't seen page urls like “addtodirectory.php” or “index.php?page=2” in any professional work for years (instead of “/add” or “/2”).

I don't feel comfortable fingering things like that in public, but you specifically asked for that and it's you who started undermining me, writing about “cleaning the mess after me”, while not having any basis for that.

And don't get me wrong. None of thighs that I pointed out are things that would make a website break. Break like don't work at all. But there's a huge gap between something barely working and being a solid software and there's clearly lack of knowledge of standards and good practices in your work. And I probably don't need to explain the correlation between that and bugfulness and insecurity.

Dude you don't even have 15yrs web development at least show some code that proves that.

I enjoy using my nickname on this forum and don't want my day job involved in my profile here. I believe my experience and wether I know what I'm talking about can be judged basing on what I write - both in this embarrassing argument and in my reply to the OP.

Look at you ass-kisser. Your just mad cause I pointed out that your a newbie when it comes to the web development with a litcoind which you even admitted in the post above, and that your over charging the dude. So I am not going to fight with you but at least just come out say your butt-hurt, we can see it.

This is another difference between us. I am fully aware of what I don't know or what I haven't used yet. Furthermore, I voluntarily and transparently report that at the very beginning, while not even being asked about it, as it's the only professional and honest way of doing business that I know.

Let's just let the OP decide who he would like to trust more - you claiming that you know everything and you're the best; or me telling that I haven't used litecoind server before but I have read the documentation and find it very straightforward, so I'll have no problems in using it considering my experience, just like I used dozens of other APIs before.

The only thing someone might be worried regarding me is that as a new forum user I might not know how cryptocurrencies work. I hope I resolved that doubts before, writing how I would design the transaction process and money flow.

We clearly have our differences about each other skills (though I have no idea what are your basis), but I don't see any point in continuing this and I'd like to call EOT and let CoinHoarder do his job. No offense towards you gweedo.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1026
In Cryptocoins I Trust
Ah.. I'm still up..

What a mess, I feel bad for creating a dispute. Just settle down guys.. there will be other projects to develop all the time around here. People are always asking for web development, etc. Smiley

I will finish this in PMs as to not cause any more drama.

No need to argue.

Thanks again,

Ch
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 522
15 BTC vs 12 BTC? Really your going to pay a newbie more

I don't think that post count number on a bitcoin forum has anything to do with being newbie in software development, but hey, it's just me.

Good Luck! When you need someone to clean up the mess pm me Wink

I suggest you start cleaning with the website in your signature ;-). A quick look into HTML source suggests knowledge at the level of  “Learn PHP in 7 days” book. Without looking at the source - frontend is messy as well. No offense, I am only judging the code.

I am willing to reconsider though, 12 BTC does sound better than 15 BTC, no offense Terk. Also, gweedo has experience integrating LTC into e-commerce which is nice.

Give me a night to sleep on it- it's getting late anyways and I've gotta work in the AM.

Of course. It's your money and your project. Don't hurry up. I'm going to bed as well, good night.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1026
In Cryptocoins I Trust
Gweedo,

Perhaps Terk explained himself better and I was willing to pay more because he has 15 years experience in web development.

I am willing to reconsider though, 12 BTC does sound better than 15 BTC, no offense Terk. Also, gweedo has experience integrating LTC into e-commerce which is nice.

Give me a night to sleep on it- it's getting late anyways and I've gotta work in the AM.

Thank you both for your time and sorry for not being so professional.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 522
I can agree to 15 BTC through escrow with the requirement that you complete all features in the OP including the "bonus features".
Great! Thanks for giving a try to a forum-newbie :-). So I suggest we move to PM to work on details.

PS to everyone: Private keys to the physical Litecoins themselves will never be shared to ANYONE but me and my record of them will be destroyed when the coins are made. Of course any list of addresses that I get to a web developer will have the private keys redacted.
That is a no-brainer. There's no need for neither me nor the application to know private keys and it won't even be possible to upload private keys to the app, it will only accept public addresses.

Oh wow, I just saw this. Sorry buddy, I would have given you a chance to give a bid. I dunno how I missed your post earlier.  Sad
If Terk backs out, I will contact you for a bid and choose between you and Gweedo.
I am not backing up, but if you want to consider more options then don't feel obliged yet. I am excited about this project but I don't want to hold you hostage just because I wast first to reply.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1026
In Cryptocoins I Trust
I'm also available, see my post in my signature.

Nice to see that you have the project development under way before asking for a site done. Sounds like an interesting project too, good luck Smiley


Oh wow, I just saw this. Sorry buddy, I would have given you a chance to give a bid. I dunno how I missed your post earlier.  Sad

If Terk backs out, I will contact you for a bid and choose between you and Gweedo.

Thanks for your interest Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1026
In Cryptocoins I Trust
And of course we'll be loading the physical litecoins as well. The transaction will work more or less like this:

1. We generate a new litecoin address for each order placed.
2. User pays to that address.
3. Once we receive user payment, we immediately send these LTC to multiple addresses: one is your address to send fixed per-coin cost, shipping costs, etc. Then there are physical litecoin addresses where we load funds for all coins that user ordered.

The goal is to keep litecoin balance within the app for as short as possible to eliminate losses in case someone hacked into your server, etc. Your address for coin/shipping costs can and should be a cold wallet address. Also, the app should be loaded only with public addresses of physical litecoins, so that the app will never have access to funds deposited into the coins and the coins will be safe even if everything is hacked (that is, you'll get the app secure, but there are thousands of things that can be hacked on a server - as we could read in so many places in recent days - so better safe than sorry).

My hourly rate is 0.4-0.5 BTC or we can agree for 15 BTC for the whole app. That includes very polished product as I'm very detail-oriented. I think it will take me more than 30 hours, but I will learn new things by the way, so I can work for a fixed fee (which I haven't done for six years;-)). Plus I would love to receive couple of these nice 1 LTC coins to give away to friends and spread the word about cryptocurrencies by the way :-)

Thanks for the detail... I think I am going to give you a shot. You seem like a smart guy and I like the way you explained everything to me. Plus... ya gotta start somewhere, I'd like to see more developers around that know how to do these things for the good of crypto coins.  Smiley

I can agree to 15 BTC through escrow with the requirement that you complete all features in the OP including the "bonus features".

PS to everyone: Private keys to the physical Litecoins themselves will never be shared to ANYONE but me and my record of them will be destroyed when the coins are made. Of course any list of addresses that I get to a web developer will have the private keys redacted.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 522
And of course we'll be loading the physical litecoins as well. The transaction will work more or less like this:

1. We generate a new litecoin address for each order placed.
2. User pays to that address.
3. Once we receive user payment, we immediately send these LTC to multiple addresses: one is your address to send fixed per-coin cost, shipping costs, etc. Then there are physical litecoin addresses where we load funds for all coins that user ordered.

The goal is to keep litecoin balance within the app for as short as possible to eliminate losses in case someone hacked into your server, etc. Your address for coin/shipping costs can and should be a cold wallet address. Also, the app should be loaded only with public addresses of physical litecoins, so that the app will never have access to funds deposited into the coins and the coins will be safe even if everything is hacked (that is, you'll get the app secure, but there are thousands of things that can be hacked on a server - as we could read in so many places in recent days - so better safe than sorry).

My hourly rate is 0.4-0.5 BTC or we can agree for 15 BTC for the whole app. That includes very polished product as I'm very detail-oriented. I think it will take me more than 30 hours, but I will learn new things by the way, so I can work for a fixed fee (which I haven't done for six years;-)). Plus I would love to receive couple of these nice 1 LTC coins to give away to friends and spread the word about cryptocurrencies by the way :-)
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1026
In Cryptocoins I Trust
Yeah I would just do a custom solution because the features and bonus features would be easier to create with a custom solution. I can really drill down to what you specifically want.

Ok cool! I'm guessing you have integrated LTC into ecommerce before?? I've seen you around since.. forever.  Smiley

Thanks for your bid, I'm going to give Terk a chance to provide a bid though (to be fair since he was first.)
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