Topic: Wtf can you do when an operator goes rogue ? (Read 6034 times)

No. You get nothing.

Are you aware that misrepresenting yourself as an agent of Coinabul opened you up to being sued by them?

Are you aware that misrepresenting yourself as a Financial Services Professional is illegal in Australia? For example of what happens to even registered financial services professionals in Australia who engage in misleading and deceptive conduct please see:
https://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byHeadline/12-296MR%20ASIC%20bans%20financial%20adviser%20for%20failing%20to%20comply%20with%20financial%20services%20laws?opendocument

Look, don't you think this crap has gotten way, way out of hand? Why don't you just apologize to me for what you've said against me?

I have about 30 facebook accounts and 25 twitter ones and 4 or 5 linked in profiles. That particular linked in account is inactive and has been that way for months.

If you dont believe coinabul when they say I have had nothing to do with them for months that's your problem not mine.

Setting up fake social network accounts /= scammer.

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/david-hollis/3b/6a3/880

So you didn't claim to be a Marketing Executive at Coinabul? That's odd.


In the post above you said I had the wrong linkedin profile. So that's not you then? David A. Hollis? Of Victoria, Australia? Who is a member of the bitcoin community? And has worked for Coinabul?

Why would Coinabul sue me because you misrepresented yourself as a Marketing Executive who is still working for them, and who is a Financial Services Professional, when the truth is you were an unpaid intern for around a month last year, and you currently work in a restaurant? They're not going to sue me.

Please. Just apologize for what you have said about me and leave me alone. Do it in PM if you won't do it in public, then leave me alone.

Retard magnet.

I hope coinabul; sues your ass off because I have nothing to do with the company.

Whaaaaaaaaat? No, the real issue is how you have tried to drag me into your personal shitstorm and how you have been attacking me and others in an attempt to obfuscate your own problems.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-case-against-bitcoin-oz-128630

Next time don't use company resources to troll and defame.

BTW, here's a hint. If you're going to set up some kind of strawman about how the "real choice" is deciding to side with the law or remain "non legit" it looks like a) an admission you've done something illegal and b) are now asking people to side with you (i.e. conspire). Do you really think everyone is going to stand up and say "Hey let's all agree (i.e. conspire) to break the law with bitcoinoz!!" yeah that sounds like a great argument. Do I need to tell you what side I've chosen? Sheesh.

The real issue here is that any bitcoin service that tries to "go legit" is going to have the exact same problems glbse did.

Doesnt it bother anyone that any online bitcoin service you use can be targeted like this ?

Its becoming increasingly clear that people are going to have to choose one side or the other and crossing over from "non legit"  to "legit" is for all intents and purposes impossible.

But I was never on any sort of secret panel. I offered to help nefario organize what was supposed to become a public, community panel, independant from the GLBSE. I did this because he was doing a lot of stupid things like with DMC and kludge and goat and with alberto's ID/info. But he didn't listen to anything I said and the panel was never actually set up. Nefario refused to give control to anyone. So twisting this and claiming it was secret and that I had access to Nefario "more than shareholders" is an extremely dishonest thing. You do get this, don't you? That you (deeplink and bitcoinoz) are the bad buys here?

Wrong. This is why I asked you:


So you did have access to information that was not disclosed to the public.

Not a scammer sorry.

http://thenextweb.com/au/2012/11/29/largest-data-breach-investigation-ever-undertaken-by-australian-law-enforcement-leads-to-a-bust-in-romania/  if you think a Romanian exchange operator is out of reach of western authorities you are kidding yourself.

Usagi was on Nefario's secret panel to approve glbse assets. They had more access to him than the shareholders did.....

Incorrect.

Bitcoin Oz, why don't you have a scammer tag by now?

No, I was not. I wanted to become a shareholder before GLBSE shut down, though. I was planning on buying shares and holding them in NYAN. It really would have made what I was doing unique. Unfortunately that didn't turn out too well and GLBSE shut down.


Lol. To your detriment I assure, you really don't respect who you troll nearly enough. No, you are not asking me because I seem to have info. You are asking me because you are digging for troll ammo. So no I do not have any information that was not disclosed to the public. Not sure where you got that idea. GLBSE minutes were posted to Nefario's scam accusation thread.

Ummm, he didn't need anyone's permission to speak to a lawyer.  It's the manner in which he acted on the advice he claims to have received which is at issue, not his right to seek that advice in the first place (which was absolute).

usagi, were you a partner or shareholder in GLBSE?

The reason I ask is because you seem to have information that was not disclosed to the public. If it was, please post a link. How did you receive this information?

Oh? That isn't the information I have received. The information I have states that Nefario quite clearly announced the need to discuss things with a lawyer because he had legal advice that running the GLBSE was going to land him in Jail. Oh, and all the other reasons for going legit. Such as the number of companies from the conference that wanted to list, including the "big secret" that Nef said "don't tell". Oh, and the theft/ponzi scheme thing. According to the information I have received, this was all discussed well in advance and you had plenty of time to voice any discontent. You knew it had to be this way for quite a number of reasons. Do not now claim that this was never discussed at a meeting and that Nefario did this against the wishes of the other members. You know full well why he went to a lawyer and you know full well that a majority of the members supported this decision. Legitimizing GLBSE was a pre-announced motion in the minutes and was a major topic of discussion. I cannot believe you would try to lie and twist your way out of that fact.

Shutting down the GLBSE is another matter entirely and I am not talking about that at all. Yes, that was probably a bad move on Nef's part. But that is not what I am talking about. Don't get confused. All of this information is on record. A lot of people have access to this information, so I don't see why you are trying to worm your way out of it by lying.

As far as I'm aware, holders of unregistered securities - which is what MPEX is set up as - don't generally have unlimited liability in the US. (Setting up an unregistered security is of course illegal in the US and many other countries, but it happens fairly frequently.) It's a good thing too, because otherwise that'd make it a lot easier for scammers to operate.

The reason you're probably in deep shit is because GLBSE/Bitcoin Global has effectively been operating like a partnership. MPOE/MPEX shares are non-voting and their owners have no say in how the company's run, whereas from what I can tell you've been taking an active role in day-to-day operations.

I agreed to the bitcoinglobal bylaws which didnt say anything about being a registered company or approaching a lawyer. As far as Im concerned they ceased to exist and the "partnership" was nullified as soon as Nefario stepped into a lawyers office.

Thats why he has a scammer label. he didnt have permission to even speak to a lawyer in the first place. The correct way to do it would be to dissolve BG before ignoring the contract. Doing the opposite nullified it entirely.

You cant quote the fucking contract at me when its been broken by one party to it.