While stuff like this is horrible and precisely what made me stop watching mainstream news channels of any sort, you'll find that the majority of people aren't actually like this. Granted, it's going to get pretty bad as the economy gets worse and paper money collapses but for the most part, people are pretty passive and just want to get along with their lives. If you bother to question what you watch and read you'll discover that these kind of murders and the like are usually isolated the problem is though that the news very often goes out of their way to find them, their primary purpose in life seems to be to scare the shit out of people and provoke reactions out of them.
It always amazes me how news reporters etc. will go to the ends of the earth to find out about violent murder in the world but they won't even report something nice happening in their own back yard.
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Look at other countries. I'm sure you can find babies and mothers murdered by knives and clubs.
Guns allow old people in wheelchairs and young women to defend themselves against even the strongest of attackers. Those people would be utterly helpless against someone with a knife in a country where guns are illegal.
Guns allow old people in wheelchairs and young women to defend themselves against even the strongest of attackers. Those people would be utterly helpless against someone with a knife in a country where guns are illegal.
Yes, if you want to see a WTF world that is "disarmed" Google South Africa Farm Murders. Try not to throw up if you go to the images tab. Not a shot fired.
Jesus.... you weren't kidding.
Great talk guys, a lot of good points put out here. Keep it coming.
Look at other countries. I'm sure you can find babies and mothers murdered by knives and clubs.
Guns allow old people in wheelchairs and young women to defend themselves against even the strongest of attackers. Those people would be utterly helpless against someone with a knife in a country where guns are illegal.
Guns allow old people in wheelchairs and young women to defend themselves against even the strongest of attackers. Those people would be utterly helpless against someone with a knife in a country where guns are illegal.
Yes, if you want to see a WTF world that is "disarmed" Google South Africa Farm Murders. Try not to throw up if you go to the images tab. Not a shot fired.
It's still no less violent than it ever was. It's just an evolved form of violence, a more pleasant violence. Physical violence may dwindle, but violence itself isn't going anywhere. If you can force someone to do something without ever laying a finger on them, that's an impressive thing. And it happens all the time. If someone points a gun at me and says, "Lay down on the ground, right now." I'm going to do just that. I don't care if I'm being robbed or put into cuffs, I'll mow the guy's lawn if he wanted me to, because I know what would happen if I refused.
I mean, how many people in this world today are forced to pay a fee to live? And is this number going up or down as time goes on? Egyptians whipped slaves, whether the slave did magnificent, or not. And America taxes, whether the slave does magnificent, or not.
I mean, how many people in this world today are forced to pay a fee to live? And is this number going up or down as time goes on? Egyptians whipped slaves, whether the slave did magnificent, or not. And America taxes, whether the slave does magnificent, or not.
The fact that we can even criticize the government in public is virtually unheard of in history. Even now the freedoms Americans enjoy are hard to come by. For example, next week I will be on the road again. Part of the time I will be in a country that would put me to death if they discovered I was an atheist. No people in history have had it this good. It's easy to want more freedom, but let's not forget what we have.
We can criticize the government because the government evolved. They now know if they give you as many 'rights' as they can before you start questioning why they're there in the first place, they can let you get away with whatever you want. As long as you work and pay taxes, you're free. But you're not really free, you still have to work and pay taxes--and I'm not saying work is a bad thing, it's completely vital for any society to function. The problem is when the work is watered down to pay for an overhead to do what you can already do if you had more free time due to making more money by not being taxed. When you say good, I think you mean, the illusion is good. But that just means we're less aware that if we act in a way our government disagrees with, we will be forced to stop doing said thing, until finally we're silenced.
Exactly RodeoX +1
Everything must be put in context. We need to appreciate what we have... even as we fight for more.
Everything must be put in context. We need to appreciate what we have... even as we fight for more.
It's still no less violent than it ever was. It's just an evolved form of violence, a more pleasant violence. Physical violence may dwindle, but violence itself isn't going anywhere. If you can force someone to do something without ever laying a finger on them, that's an impressive thing. And it happens all the time. If someone points a gun at me and says, "Lay down on the ground, right now." I'm going to do just that. I don't care if I'm being robbed or put into cuffs, I'll mow the guy's lawn if he wanted me to, because I know what would happen if I refused.
I mean, how many people in this world today are forced to pay a fee to live? And is this number going up or down as time goes on? Egyptians whipped slaves, whether the slave did magnificent, or not. And America taxes, whether the slave does magnificent, or not.
I mean, how many people in this world today are forced to pay a fee to live? And is this number going up or down as time goes on? Egyptians whipped slaves, whether the slave did magnificent, or not. And America taxes, whether the slave does magnificent, or not.
The fact that we can even criticize the government in public is virtually unheard of in history. Even now the freedoms Americans enjoy are hard to come by. For example, next week I will be on the road again. Part of the time I will be in a country that would put me to death if they discovered I was an atheist. No people in history have had it this good. It's easy to want more freedom, but let's not forget what we have.
civil unrest, move along or stay inside
by measurable statistics, violence is becoming less.. Murder rate has dropped signifigantly over the past 40 years.
Whether this means we are becoming less violent, or simply finding better ways to channel that violence (video games anyone?) is anyone's guess... but as a country we have become far less murderous.
Whether this means we are becoming less violent, or simply finding better ways to channel that violence (video games anyone?) is anyone's guess... but as a country we have become far less murderous.
Violent crime in general is near historical lows. It just seem more prevalent now than in the past because the media brings news from all parts of the world to everybody so we're a lot more aware of it.
Exactly my point.
Also... Communication has gotten to a level now where we have a social community spread across the entire globe. Things that happen to some one in china can affect you, because you know a person involved. Or in the case of our rabid media, the continental united states has shrunk to this tiny ball of interconnected threads. Local news reports on shootings, weather, and small local disturbances as if they are in your own neighborhood.
This isn't exactly good or bad, but lately it has been taken out of context and a lot of people don't have the wits to realize there IS another context.
It's still no less violent than it ever was. It's just an evolved form of violence, a more pleasant violence. Physical violence may dwindle, but violence itself isn't going anywhere. If you can force someone to do something without ever laying a finger on them, that's an impressive thing. And it happens all the time. If someone points a gun at me and says, "Lay down on the ground, right now." I'm going to do just that. I don't care if I'm being robbed or put into cuffs, I'll mow the guy's lawn if he wanted me to, because I know what would happen if I refused.
I mean, how many people in this world today are forced to pay a fee to live? And is this number going up or down as time goes on? Egyptians whipped slaves, whether the slave did magnificent, or not. And America taxes, whether the slave does magnificent, or not.
Violent crime in general is near historical lows. It just seem more prevalent now than in the past because the media brings news from all parts of the world to everybody so we're a lot more aware of it.
Exactly my point.
Also... Communication has gotten to a level now where we have a social community spread across the entire globe. Things that happen to some one in china can affect you, because you know a person involved. Or in the case of our rabid media, the continental united states has shrunk to this tiny ball of interconnected threads. Local news reports on shootings, weather, and small local disturbances as if they are in your own neighborhood.
This isn't exactly good or bad, but lately it has been taken out of context and a lot of people don't have the wits to realize there IS another context.
Violent crime in general is near historical lows. It just seem more prevalent now than in the past because the media brings news from all parts of the world to everybody so we're a lot more aware of it.
Exactly my point.
Also... Communication has gotten to a level now where we have a social community spread across the entire globe. Things that happen to some one in china can affect you, because you know a person involved. Or in the case of our rabid media, the continental united states has shrunk to this tiny ball of interconnected threads. Local news reports on shootings, weather, and small local disturbances as if they are in your own neighborhood.
This isn't exactly good or bad, but lately it has been taken out of context and a lot of people don't have the wits to realize there IS another context.
Violent crime in general is near historical lows. It just seem more prevalent now than in the past because the media brings news from all parts of the world to everybody so we're a lot more aware of it.
snapsunny, I believe you aren't giving human's enough credit. Yes there are a lot of dumb shits, but there are also a lot of smart young folks who have forsaken school and become autodidacts. School failed them, so they teach themselves.
Though you are correct, that number is dwindling. After all, we're here, and proof that a failed school system is not the end of intelligence. But considering the masses are on the extreme-selfish vanity muscle head side of intelligence, schools are certainly accomplishing something.
I really don't know which way it'll swing. Free education is taking off, like khan and coursera. And those are completely free of statist propaganda (so I hope anyhow.) But cant we call this a revolution in education? I personally find it brilliant, but of course, profit and capitalism will see an end to it, if possible.
snapsunny, I believe you aren't giving human's enough credit. Yes there are a lot of dumb shits, but there are also a lot of smart young folks who have forsaken school and become autodidacts. School failed them, so they teach themselves.
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snapsunny, I believe you aren't giving human's enough credit. Yes there are a lot of dumb shits, but there are also a lot of smart young folks who have forsaken school and become autodidacts. School failed them, so they teach themselves.
Yes, we are very close to the end of our society and the dawn of a new world. Ego/negativity is peaking.
The truth is... this is an every day occurance all over our country. The difference is our media lately has been hyperfocused on it, so every time something happens somewhere, they report on it country wide instead of just in the local news.
It's insane, all of it. Just literally crazy shit days we live in. I am so glad I'm not in college or HS or even preschool at this day n age.
I agree to that whole heartedly. Hell alot of the younger generation I'm talking to these days can barely read or write or even do basic math... The next few decades are going to be seriously crappy. :\
That's one reason why I feel a revolution has to occur now. The next generation, and the one after, are going to be even dumber as schools decline in quality. They will give birth to a new generation: the ultra-patriots!
Well at least the Mother didn't have a gun. She could have accidentally shot a different baby while defending herself.
The truth is... this is an every day occurance all over our country. The difference is our media lately has been hyperfocused on it, so every time something happens somewhere, they report on it country wide instead of just in the local news.
It's insane, all of it. Just literally crazy shit days we live in. I am so glad I'm not in college or HS or even preschool at this day n age.
I agree to that whole heartedly. Hell alot of the younger generation I'm talking to these days can barely read or write or even do basic math... The next few decades are going to be seriously crappy. :\
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