WTF is up with Dwolla?!? They're even bigger dirtballs than I thought!!

Stephen Gornick

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Quote from: hongus on April 18, 2012, 01:04:07 AM

Need a clean response. Is there another service that allows me to put money into mtgox via my bank account or debit card? (USA) For little to no fee.

If your bank has online bill payment, CampBX will work as a "vendor". If you instead can wait, they'll take a personal check as well.

There are others (e.g., Get-Bitcoin.com) , but there are higher fees.

- http://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Buying_bitcoins

stochastic

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Quote from: hongus on April 18, 2012, 01:04:07 AM

Need a clean response. Is there another service that allows me to put money into mtgox via my bank account or debit card? (USA) For little to no fee.

I think the only other choice is bitinstant which charges ~3% which I don't think is little but their costs are probably unfortunately high.

Why not try doing over the counter at bitcoin-otc. Some people charge high fees but you can find a good deal if persistent.

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Need a clean response. Is there another service that allows me to put money into mtgox via my bank account or debit card? (USA) For little to no fee.

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Quote from: Keyur @ Camp BX on April 17, 2012, 10:43:02 PM

Quote from: cryptoanarchist on April 16, 2012, 05:29:28 PM

Quote from: jwzguy on April 16, 2012, 04:37:50 PM

They've officially sucked since they made unauthorized withdrawals from Tradehill's account and then erased old transactions from already issued account statements to try to hide it. Don't give your business to thieves.

I know, I know..."thieves" is being polite. Hopefully Intersango and CampBX will offer other withdrawal methods, but it seems they're all partners in statism.

CA,
We support several withdrawal methods besides Dwolla, including my personal favorite USPS Money Orders. We will also add couple of more methods soon.

Keyur

welp.

back to campBX for me.

that MO is soo tempting.

Raoul Duke

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Dwolla certainly has sex organs as they really fuck up a LOT!

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Quote from: hongus on April 17, 2012, 10:46:56 PM

Quote from: stochastic on April 17, 2012, 07:11:47 PM

Quote from: cryptoanarchist on April 17, 2012, 03:11:45 PM

So here are some of the claims that Dwolla made to me today:

It is totally within their right to change their terms and conditions of using their service without giving any prionotice to their customers. That's right, despite any existing contract law, Dwolla can just change contract midstream , and they don't even have to tell people.

To move money out of Dwolla, you MUST either link to a bank account, or supply a SSN, and be part of Facebook or Twitter.

I told them that I didn't have an SSN, and that SSNs were technically only for Federal employees and it was a felony for me to claim to have one, and their manager, Ian, told me that that wasn't "germaine" to the conversation and had to hang up.

These guys are just purely criminal. I already knew because of what happened to Tradehill but I wanted to trade on the exchanges that take dwolla so I used them anyway.

I guess I just paid for it. Lesson learned. Fuck Dwolla, fuck their employees and their dogs and children as well. May they all die of anal cancer.

They didn't ask for your real SSN did they? They only ask for your SSN.

I put some random digits the same length as an SSN and it accepted it o.O

But I'm still closing my account

I just logged in and was asked to identify my gender, "Male, female or other" and my employeer identification number since I have a business account. Since when did businesses have sex organs?

Anyway, maybe we should have a stock letter to close a Dwolla account for bitcoin users to really send a message.

John (John K.)

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Away on an extended break

Quote from: Keyur @ Camp BX on April 17, 2012, 10:43:02 PM

Quote from: cryptoanarchist on April 16, 2012, 05:29:28 PM

Quote from: jwzguy on April 16, 2012, 04:37:50 PM

They've officially sucked since they made unauthorized withdrawals from Tradehill's account and then erased old transactions from already issued account statements to try to hide it. Don't give your business to thieves.

I know, I know..."thieves" is being polite. Hopefully Intersango and CampBX will offer other withdrawal methods, but it seems they're all partners in statism.

CA,
We support several withdrawal methods besides Dwolla, including my personal favorite USPS Money Orders. We will also add couple of more methods soon.

Keyur

Good thing to hear. Personally, I think dwolla is starting to go under.

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Quote from: stochastic on April 17, 2012, 07:11:47 PM

Quote from: cryptoanarchist on April 17, 2012, 03:11:45 PM

So here are some of the claims that Dwolla made to me today:

It is totally within their right to change their terms and conditions of using their service without giving any prionotice to their customers. That's right, despite any existing contract law, Dwolla can just change contract midstream , and they don't even have to tell people.

To move money out of Dwolla, you MUST either link to a bank account, or supply a SSN, and be part of Facebook or Twitter.

I told them that I didn't have an SSN, and that SSNs were technically only for Federal employees and it was a felony for me to claim to have one, and their manager, Ian, told me that that wasn't "germaine" to the conversation and had to hang up.

These guys are just purely criminal. I already knew because of what happened to Tradehill but I wanted to trade on the exchanges that take dwolla so I used them anyway.

I guess I just paid for it. Lesson learned. Fuck Dwolla, fuck their employees and their dogs and children as well. May they all die of anal cancer.

They didn't ask for your real SSN did they? They only ask for your SSN.

I put some random digits the same length as an SSN and it accepted it o.O

But I'm still closing my account

Keyur @ Camp BX

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Quote from: cryptoanarchist on April 16, 2012, 05:29:28 PM

Quote from: jwzguy on April 16, 2012, 04:37:50 PM

They've officially sucked since they made unauthorized withdrawals from Tradehill's account and then erased old transactions from already issued account statements to try to hide it. Don't give your business to thieves.

I know, I know..."thieves" is being polite. Hopefully Intersango and CampBX will offer other withdrawal methods, but it seems they're all partners in statism.

CA,
We support several withdrawal methods besides Dwolla, including my personal favorite USPS Money Orders. We will also add couple of more methods soon.

Keyur

Stephen Gornick

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Incidentally, two threads regarding this policy change by Dwolla:

- http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=76866.0;all
- https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.853929

Raoul Duke

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So they need FULL CONTROL of your social network accounts to verify you?

Quote from: bb113 on April 16, 2012, 06:44:44 PM

Interesting, to say the least... Has anybody contacted the EFF about this? I bet they will be thrilled!

stochastic

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Quote from: cryptoanarchist on April 17, 2012, 03:11:45 PM

So here are some of the claims that Dwolla made to me today:

It is totally within their right to change their terms and conditions of using their service without giving any prionotice to their customers. That's right, despite any existing contract law, Dwolla can just change contract midstream , and they don't even have to tell people.

To move money out of Dwolla, you MUST either link to a bank account, or supply a SSN, and be part of Facebook or Twitter.

I told them that I didn't have an SSN, and that SSNs were technically only for Federal employees and it was a felony for me to claim to have one, and their manager, Ian, told me that that wasn't "germaine" to the conversation and had to hang up.

These guys are just purely criminal. I already knew because of what happened to Tradehill but I wanted to trade on the exchanges that take dwolla so I used them anyway.

I guess I just paid for it. Lesson learned. Fuck Dwolla, fuck their employees and their dogs and children as well. May they all die of anal cancer.

They didn't ask for your real SSN did they? They only ask for your SSN.

Splatter

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Email their support and tell them you want to cancel the account. I did it today, as well as others I saw in another thread. The more people that do this, maybe they will get the message.

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Quote from: Aggro on April 17, 2012, 05:18:15 PM

Quote from: cryptoanarchist on April 17, 2012, 03:11:45 PM

May they all die of anal cancer.

LOLLLLLLLLL sorry that was too funny. I just picture Ben Milne lying sideways in some hospital bed ...

lol ^^ this

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Quote from: cryptoanarchist on April 17, 2012, 03:11:45 PM

May they all die of anal cancer.

LOLLLLLLLLL sorry that was too funny. I just picture Ben Milne lying sideways in some hospital bed ...

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So here are some of the claims that Dwolla made to me today:

It is totally within their right to change their terms and conditions of using their service without giving any prionotice to their customers. That's right, despite any existing contract law, Dwolla can just change contract midstream , and they don't even have to tell people.

To move money out of Dwolla, you MUST either link to a bank account, or supply a SSN, and be part of Facebook or Twitter.

I told them that I didn't have an SSN, and that SSNs were technically only for Federal employees and it was a felony for me to claim to have one, and their manager, Ian, told me that that wasn't "germaine" to the conversation and had to hang up.

These guys are just purely criminal. I already knew because of what happened to Tradehill but I wanted to trade on the exchanges that take dwolla so I used them anyway.

I guess I just paid for it. Lesson learned. Fuck Dwolla, fuck their employees and their dogs and children as well. May they all die of anal cancer.

Jered Kenna (TradeHill)

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Quote from: cryptoanarchist on April 16, 2012, 05:29:28 PM

Quote from: jwzguy on April 16, 2012, 04:37:50 PM

They've officially sucked since they made unauthorized withdrawals from Tradehill's account and then erased old transactions from already issued account statements to try to hide it. Don't give your business to thieves.

I know, I know..."thieves" is being polite. Hopefully Intersango and CampBX will offer other withdrawal methods, but it seems they're all partners in statism.

There is a real lack of options in the "non reversible" payments industry.
That claim is what drew us (not just TradeHill all of Bitcoin) to Dwolla in the first place. Obviously the rest of society doesn't all share that need.

Jered

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Quote from: jwzguy on April 16, 2012, 04:37:50 PM

They've officially sucked since they made unauthorized withdrawals from Tradehill's account and then erased old transactions from already issued account statements to try to hide it. Don't give your business to thieves.

I know, I know..."thieves" is being polite. Hopefully Intersango and CampBX will offer other withdrawal methods, but it seems they're all partners in statism.

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Quote from: zer0 on April 16, 2012, 04:20:40 PM

Just use trustcash and deposit cash in a bank.
Better than waiting 30 days for Dwolla, or that really stupid 'Social networking' requirement.

I only use Dwolla so that I can trade on InterSango and CampBX. Other than that, I keep a $0 balance over there.

Ben Milne seems like a tool of the banks and generally a douche. I mean really, a Facebook requirement?!?! If someone ever sets up Jim Bell's "Assassination Marketplace", I got $100 for someone to kick his ass.

Seems they are just doing this for marketing. They can see who your friends are and try to get them to use Dwolla. Just plug in a fake facebook page with no friends.

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They've officially sucked since they made unauthorized withdrawals from Tradehill's account and then erased old transactions from already issued account statements to try to hide it. Don't give your business to thieves.

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