Go post in mining speculation.
I am glad that you finally admit that your estimates for ROI are based on speculations.
I made no estimate.
You are incorrect. If difficulty didnt change 35 BTC would ROI in ~ 4 months.
Topic: WTS BFL Jalepeno 5 GH/s #20XX order date 6/25/12 (Read 2449 times)
I am glad that you finally admit that your estimates for ROI are based on speculations.
I made no estimate.
I offer 0.75 BTC for the item.
Current best offer is 35 BTC.Someone is willing to pay 35 BTC for a 5GH/s miner, effectively 7 BTC per GH/s, but no one is willing to buy my first-day preorder for an SC Single (60GH/s) for less than half that rate (200 BTC, effectively 3.33 BTC per GH/s).
I don't get it.
I don't have 200btc. My options are limited by my skinny wallet.
yes but that calculator only calculates what you can make if all variables stay the same. I believe your nemesis is stating that you need to account for an increase in difficulty and hashing power of network. So a calculator like this is much more appropriate: http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
Thank you for the voice of sanity.
Do you happen to know a good site that estimates the rate of raise of difficulty on a longer period?
There is no way to GUESS what the difficulty or price will be in the future. What a futile exercise.
If this is what you have been on about this whole time you truly are thick.
Go post in mining speculation.
I am glad that you finally admit that your estimates for ROI are based on speculations.
There is no way to GUESS what the difficulty or price will be in the future. What a futile exercise.
If this is what you have been on about this whole time you truly are thick.
If this is what you have been on about this whole time you truly are thick.
You are yet again mistaken. One can look at the current trends, and approximate the rate of increase of the difficulty, either linearly, or polynomially, or exponentially (this one is likely the closest to the growth of the hashrate).
Certainly, the next difficulty is something that can be very well predicted based on the current hashrate, and findings of blocks, etc.
Go post in mining speculation.
There is no way to GUESS what the difficulty or price will be in the future. What a futile exercise.
If this is what you have been on about this whole time you truly are thick.
If this is what you have been on about this whole time you truly are thick.
You are yet again mistaken. One can look at the current trends, and approximate the rate of increase of the difficulty, either linearly, or polynomially, or exponentially (this one is likely the closest to the growth of the hashrate).
Certainly, the next difficulty is something that can be very well predicted based on the current hashrate, and findings of blocks, etc.
You are incorrect. If difficulty didnt change 35 BTC would ROI in ~ 4 months.
yes but that calculator only calculates what you can make if all variables stay the same. I believe your nemesis is stating that you need to account for an increase in difficulty and hashing power of network. So a calculator like this is much more appropriate: http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
Thank you for the voice of sanity.
Do you happen to know a good site that estimates the rate of raise of difficulty on a longer period?
There is no way to GUESS what the difficulty or price will be in the future. What a futile exercise.
If this is what you have been on about this whole time you truly are thick.
yes but that calculator only calculates what you can make if all variables stay the same. I believe your nemesis is stating that you need to account for an increase in difficulty and hashing power of network. So a calculator like this is much more appropriate: http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
Thank you for the voice of sanity.
Do you happen to know a good site that estimates the rate of raise of difficulty on a longer period?
yes but that calculator only calculates what you can make if all variables stay the same. I believe your nemesis is stating that you need to account for an increase in difficulty and hashing power of network. So a calculator like this is much more appropriate: http://www.bitcoinx.com/profit/
What are you talking about? I have only posted facts. No speculation here.
You have posted what appears to be bloated estimates of the revenue from the item you are trying to sell, and thus an inflated ROI time. I call upon you once more to present your calculations to the community.
This calculator has been around a lot longer than you kid.
http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator.pys
What are you talking about? I have only posted facts. No speculation here.
You have posted what appears to be bloated estimates of the revenue from the item you are trying to sell, and thus an inflated ROI time. I call upon you once more to present your calculations to the community.
Everything I have posted here is 100% factual. No emotion involved.
Please stop filling my thread with your BS.
Please stop filling my thread with your BS.
You are again being carried away, my friend. While, perhaps, in the legal profession hammering on the table works, fortunately in this community people believe only the facts. You have been called on your bluff, and so far, you have provided no calculation that anyone can verify.
What are you talking about? I have only posted facts. No speculation here.
Everything I have posted here is 100% factual. No emotion involved.
Please stop filling my thread with your BS.
Please stop filling my thread with your BS.
You are again being carried away, my friend. While, perhaps, in the legal profession hammering on the table works, fortunately in this community people believe only the facts. You have been called on your bluff, and so far, you have provided no calculation that anyone can verify.
People like you are the reason author moderated threads exist. Lesson learned.
It is really unfortunate that you have been so carried away by your emotions.
While you can suppress views contrary to yours for a short time by various methods, it is not the proper way of settling arguments, nor it is efficient.
Everything I have posted here is 100% factual. No emotion involved.
Please stop filling my thread with your BS.
People like you are the reason author moderated threads exist. Lesson learned.
It is really unfortunate that you have been so carried away by your emotions.
While you can suppress views contrary to yours for a short time by various methods, it is not the proper way of settling arguments, nor it is efficient.
I offer 0.75 BTC for the item.
Current best offer is 35 BTC.Someone is willing to pay 35 BTC for a 5GH/s miner, effectively 7 BTC per GH/s, but no one is willing to buy my first-day preorder for an SC Single (60GH/s) for less than half that rate (200 BTC, effectively 3.33 BTC per GH/s).
I don't get it.
I don't have 200btc. My options are limited by my skinny wallet.
The calculator is 100% accurate.
The results are at odds with other calculators I found. However, this debate can easily be decided. Please show your calculation to everybody here. With the changing difficulty rate, it is likely a simple geometric sum.
You arent very smart.
I do not appreciate this ad hominem attack. Instead of attacking me or my intellectual abilities, I suggest that you attack my arguments, and provide here your full calculations. Or, just keep your Jalepeno.
People like you are the reason author moderated threads exist. Lesson learned.
The calculator is 100% accurate.
The results are at odds with other calculators I found. However, this debate can easily be decided. Please show your calculation to everybody here. With the changing difficulty rate, it is likely a simple geometric sum.
You arent very smart.
I do not appreciate this ad hominem attack. Instead of attacking me or my intellectual abilities, I suggest that you attack my arguments, and provide here your full calculations. Or, just keep your Jalepeno.
http://www.alloscomp.com/bitcoin/calculator
I probably will end up keeping it and mining many more than 35 BTC in its lifetime. But if I could get some BTC now I could invest them into other things. Just trying to make my 25 BTC purchase sting a little less.
BTC will sit in escrow until the item is actually delivered.
No hot potato or scam here.
This calculator is overly optimistic, and it does not account for increasing difficulty.
If you spent 25 BTC on this, then hey, according to your calculations, you should get ROI within less than 3 months, right? So, can you not wait that much?
The calculator is 100% accurate. You arent very smart.
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