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Quote from: Micky25 on September 06, 2013, 01:31:12 AM

I have 2 Batch 2 for sale. Should be ready next week. Ships from Switzerland. I paid $6,780/pc

Avalon ASIC Unit – Clone (#ASIC-AVALON-CLONE-4)
Hash Module: 4 Modules (85 Ghs) [6780$],
PSU: PSU Not Included [-250$],

lol 6780$

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3090330

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I have 2 Batch 2 for sale. Should be ready next week. Ships from Switzerland. I paid $6,780/pc

Avalon ASIC Unit – Clone (#ASIC-AVALON-CLONE-4)
Hash Module: 4 Modules (85 Ghs) [6780$],
PSU: PSU Not Included [-250$],

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Quote from: dxtwo on September 03, 2013, 12:27:51 PM

Quote from: joeventura on September 03, 2013, 09:52:42 AM

This isn't about price comparisons, it's about ROI

At best your unit will return 35 BTC

You are charging 57 BTC (at today's rate)

but you are being a nice guy, letting people finance it a little for 10% interest a week. Look at my avatar picture, did you learn your interest compounding from someone like that?

Terms are as follows:
1) 25% of total once per week on agreed set date.
2) 1 BTC interest per week
3) If you fail to make payments or no longer can make payments, you will forfeit whatever you have paid and the machine. I am very understanding about 1-2 day delay if given prior notice, however don't make it a habit.

4) or you send Rocco over to see me???

I wish you well but no one with a calculator is going to bite I am afraid.
I understand you have $2500-3000 in chips in each one of these but I can't justify $7500 there is just no ROI unless BTC goes to $225 then I just break even.

WRONG WRONG WRONG.

WTF do you get your numbers? This machine will mine close to 0.9 BTC per day to start or 27 BTC in 30 days. Yes difficulty increases, but to say it has 35 BTC life is fucking ridiculous. Go sit in the corner; you're a retard. Even my BFL Single thats been mining for about a month now has mined 25ish coins and its half the power.

First of all, the chip cost is almost 28 BTC ALONE. That ain't 2500-3000. Its closer to $4k for ONLY chips. Now add assembly of tons of those 16 chip units. That's probably another $2k right there...so now we're closer to 6k.

Second of all, the interest is to create an incentive to pay off sooner. Which has worked already three times. Do you think I want to be paid over a long term? Hell no.

Third, wtf is up with all the trolls. I am going to create a new thread and will just moderate it. I don't need your commentary. Your goal is to only bring the price down.

It will make close to the chip cost in ONE month alone.

Obviously, you did not use a calculator. Shucks, maybe you'll only make 200-300% return in a year and thats just too damn low huh?

So if I am wrong I'd love to hear your best estimate as to how many BTC you estimate this will make and in what time frame?

Instead of charging people 10% interest a week, come up with some performance guarantee??

That's how you sell $7500 miners!!

here is what I am using:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Auya3iRE6az1dDc0UVgwMU52YVpTazVjSHByOGNiWHc#gid=8

Download the spreadsheet, plug in 110gh
Delivery date 9/15/2013
Base value 1.01

I get 28 BTC by Jan 2015

Punch holes in it and show me the error of my ways.

P.S. Show your work.

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Quote from: miter_myles on September 03, 2013, 12:42:09 PM

Quote from: dxtwo on September 03, 2013, 12:27:51 PM

Quote from: joeventura on September 03, 2013, 09:52:42 AM

This isn't about price comparisons, it's about ROI

At best your unit will return 35 BTC

You are charging 57 BTC (at today's rate)

but you are being a nice guy, letting people finance it a little for 10% interest a week. Look at my avatar picture, did you learn your interest compounding from someone like that?

Terms are as follows:
1) 25% of total once per week on agreed set date.
2) 1 BTC interest per week
3) If you fail to make payments or no longer can make payments, you will forfeit whatever you have paid and the machine. I am very understanding about 1-2 day delay if given prior notice, however don't make it a habit.

4) or you send Rocco over to see me???

I wish you well but no one with a calculator is going to bite I am afraid.
I understand you have $2500-3000 in chips in each one of these but I can't justify $7500 there is just no ROI unless BTC goes to $225 then I just break even.

WRONG WRONG WRONG.

but to say it has 35 BTC life is fucking ridiculous. Go sit in the corner; you're a retard.

Nobody puts joeventura in the corner..

ROFLMAO!!!

That was my "Post of the Week" award goes to miter_myles!!!

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Quote from: dxtwo on September 03, 2013, 12:27:51 PM

Quote from: joeventura on September 03, 2013, 09:52:42 AM

This isn't about price comparisons, it's about ROI

At best your unit will return 35 BTC

You are charging 57 BTC (at today's rate)

but you are being a nice guy, letting people finance it a little for 10% interest a week. Look at my avatar picture, did you learn your interest compounding from someone like that?

Terms are as follows:
1) 25% of total once per week on agreed set date.
2) 1 BTC interest per week
3) If you fail to make payments or no longer can make payments, you will forfeit whatever you have paid and the machine. I am very understanding about 1-2 day delay if given prior notice, however don't make it a habit.

4) or you send Rocco over to see me???

I wish you well but no one with a calculator is going to bite I am afraid.
I understand you have $2500-3000 in chips in each one of these but I can't justify $7500 there is just no ROI unless BTC goes to $225 then I just break even.

WRONG WRONG WRONG.

but to say it has 35 BTC life is fucking ridiculous. Go sit in the corner; you're a retard.

Nobody puts joeventura in the corner..

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Quote from: joeventura on September 03, 2013, 09:52:42 AM

This isn't about price comparisons, it's about ROI

At best your unit will return 35 BTC

You are charging 57 BTC (at today's rate)

but you are being a nice guy, letting people finance it a little for 10% interest a week. Look at my avatar picture, did you learn your interest compounding from someone like that?

Terms are as follows:
1) 25% of total once per week on agreed set date.
2) 1 BTC interest per week
3) If you fail to make payments or no longer can make payments, you will forfeit whatever you have paid and the machine. I am very understanding about 1-2 day delay if given prior notice, however don't make it a habit.

4) or you send Rocco over to see me???

I wish you well but no one with a calculator is going to bite I am afraid.
I understand you have $2500-3000 in chips in each one of these but I can't justify $7500 there is just no ROI unless BTC goes to $225 then I just break even.

WRONG WRONG WRONG.

WTF do you get your numbers? This machine will mine close to 0.9 BTC per day to start or 27 BTC in 30 days. Yes difficulty increases, but to say it has 35 BTC life is fucking ridiculous. Go sit in the corner; you're a retard. Even my BFL Single thats been mining for about a month now has mined 25ish coins and its half the power.

First of all, the chip cost is almost 28 BTC ALONE. That ain't 2500-3000. Its closer to $4k for ONLY chips. Now add assembly of tons of those 16 chip units. That's probably another $2k right there...so now we're closer to 6k.

Second of all, the interest is to create an incentive to pay off sooner. Which has worked already three times. Do you think I want to be paid over a long term? Hell no.

Third, wtf is up with all the trolls. I am going to create a new thread and will just moderate it. I don't need your commentary. Your goal is to only bring the price down.

It will make close to the chip cost in ONE month alone.

Obviously, you did not use a calculator. Shucks, maybe you'll only make 200-300% return in a year and thats just too damn low huh?

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Quote from: joeventura on September 03, 2013, 09:52:42 AM

This isn't about price comparisons, it's about ROI

At best your unit will return 35 BTC

You are charging 57 BTC (at today's rate)

but you are being a nice guy, letting people finance it a little for 10% interest a week. Look at my avatar picture, did you learn your interest compounding from someone like that?

Terms are as follows:
1) 25% of total once per week on agreed set date.
2) 1 BTC interest per week
3) If you fail to make payments or no longer can make payments, you will forfeit whatever you have paid and the machine. I am very understanding about 1-2 day delay if given prior notice, however don't make it a habit.

4) or you send Rocco over to see me???

I wish you well but no one with a calculator is going to bite I am afraid.
I understand you have $2500-3000 in chips in each one of these but I can't justify $7500 there is just no ROI unless BTC goes to $225 then I just break even.

^This is basically what my calcumilator says too.

joeventura

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This isn't about price comparisons, it's about ROI

At best your unit will return 35 BTC

You are charging 57 BTC (at today's rate)

but you are being a nice guy, letting people finance it a little for 10% interest a week. Look at my avatar picture, did you learn your interest compounding from someone like that?

Terms are as follows:
1) 25% of total once per week on agreed set date.
2) 1 BTC interest per week
3) If you fail to make payments or no longer can make payments, you will forfeit whatever you have paid and the machine. I am very understanding about 1-2 day delay if given prior notice, however don't make it a habit.

4) or you send Rocco over to see me???

I wish you well but no one with a calculator is going to bite I am afraid.
I understand you have $2500-3000 in chips in each one of these but I can't justify $7500 there is just no ROI unless BTC goes to $225 then I just break even.

dxtwo

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Price updated to reflect what I am seeking in USD. This actually comes out much lower in BTC (so long as price of BTC is high; the quicker you buy the better)

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With so much BTC value tied to just the 1st month or two of mining the bigger issue here is when it will arrive not arguments about prices.

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Quote from: jermwerty on August 28, 2013, 12:55:33 PM

Quote from: dxtwo on August 28, 2013, 01:56:55 AM

Well even at those rates... Thats 105 BTC (10.5 BTC x 10 blades) and 110 BTC (5 BTC x 22 Jalapenos) for equivalent hash rate... so I should be raising my price

This is one machine. I think the math is very clear here. Thanks.

YEP the Math IS Clear.

ASICMINER Blades are now 3.5 BTC:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/block-erupter-bladelow-price-limited-quantityout-of-stock-282867

So 35BTC.

Sure...its sold out and you have to buy 100+. So either buy 100+ or you can pay at ASICMiners normal cost....let me calculate that.... the price is now 105 BTC for you.

Why dont you try that trick on any other company out there and see how far you get. Hey ! You sell these for $500 cheaper when I buy 100+ so give it to me for $500 less for just one!

And if you didn't know, that is how the world operates. Every manufacturer sells to their distributors at very low prices; does that entitle you to their prices? NO

I find it strange that when I say I am going to moderate the thread, not even one ridiculous comment is posted and the fear of that prevents people from wasting their time. Yet when I don't, well, you see what happens. Its unfortunate there are so many trolls.

THIS THREAD IS FOR SERIOUS BUYERS. GO TROLL ELSEWHERE.

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Quote from: dxtwo on August 28, 2013, 01:56:55 AM

Well even at those rates... Thats 105 BTC (10.5 BTC x 10 blades) and 110 BTC (5 BTC x 22 Jalapenos) for equivalent hash rate... so I should be raising my price

This is one machine. I think the math is very clear here. Thanks.

YEP the Math IS Clear.

ASICMINER Blades are now 3.5 BTC:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/block-erupter-bladelow-price-limited-quantityout-of-stock-282867

So 35BTC.

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Yep your pricing is $62/GH, which is a good price. Like I said I wasn't trying to get you to lower your price or anything, just correcting the pricing of the other setups

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Quote from: lyth0s on August 28, 2013, 12:36:24 AM

Quote from: dxtwo on August 28, 2013, 12:10:47 AM

Quote from: lyth0s on August 27, 2013, 10:40:32 PM

Quote from: dxtwo on August 26, 2013, 08:24:47 PM

Comparisons:

(ASICminer USB STICKS) 115,000 / 333 = 345 USB sticks * 0.4 BTC each = *drum roll* 138 BTC for equivalent hash rate.

(ASICminer Blades) 115,000 / 11000 (avg) = 10.45 blades * 12.5 BTC = 130 BTC

(BFL Singles 60 GH x 2) 55GH (they average 55; I have two) = 90-100 BTC total

(BFL Jalapenos) 110,000 / 5000 = 22 jalapenos = 220 BTC

Besides the ASIC block erupters your math is completely off due to your pricing per machine...

1. ASIC blades are currently 10.5 BTC brand new
2. BFL Singles are 35 BTC used (and very tough to sell at that price)
3. Jalapenos are closer to 5-6 BTC, and there are many people trying to sell their jalapeno at 6 BTC with no luck.

I'm actually really surprised you tried to pass off a jalapeno for 10 BTC each.

Anyways, I offer $2,500 USD cash and local pickup in southern callifornia.

I just looked at a couple links on the first page and those were the prices shown. You're also wrong. First page of For Sale section: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2608792

Price for block eruptor is 12 BTC now. Went down 0.5 BTC. And only scam singles are 35. Why dont you go buy one and let us know

Also stop wasting my time. Why don't you just place an order right now for batch #3 for $6k.

The post you looked up is from June when they were 12 BTC and that guy sells to europeans for higher price than they cost in the US.

Check Canaryinthemine (US based ASICMiner distributor), they are going for 10.5 BTC each, they are in stock and ship super fast: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-batch-2223-asicminer-usb-blade-miners-277332

And when you can get 11GH/s for 10.5BTC brand new, not many people are dumb enough to pay 10BTC for just 5GH/s on an old jalapeno. I'm not trying to make you lower your price or anything, just correcting your price equations Tongue

Well even at those rates... Thats 105 BTC (10.5 BTC x 10 blades) and 110 BTC (5 BTC x 22 Jalapenos) for equivalent hash rate... so I should be raising my price

This is one machine. I think the math is very clear here. Thanks.

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Quote from: dxtwo on August 28, 2013, 12:10:47 AM

Quote from: lyth0s on August 27, 2013, 10:40:32 PM

Quote from: dxtwo on August 26, 2013, 08:24:47 PM

Comparisons:

(ASICminer USB STICKS) 115,000 / 333 = 345 USB sticks * 0.4 BTC each = *drum roll* 138 BTC for equivalent hash rate.

(ASICminer Blades) 115,000 / 11000 (avg) = 10.45 blades * 12.5 BTC = 130 BTC

(BFL Singles 60 GH x 2) 55GH (they average 55; I have two) = 90-100 BTC total

(BFL Jalapenos) 110,000 / 5000 = 22 jalapenos = 220 BTC

Besides the ASIC block erupters your math is completely off due to your pricing per machine...

1. ASIC blades are currently 10.5 BTC brand new
2. BFL Singles are 35 BTC used (and very tough to sell at that price)
3. Jalapenos are closer to 5-6 BTC, and there are many people trying to sell their jalapeno at 6 BTC with no luck.

I'm actually really surprised you tried to pass off a jalapeno for 10 BTC each.

Anyways, I offer $2,500 USD cash and local pickup in southern callifornia.

I just looked at a couple links on the first page and those were the prices shown. You're also wrong. First page of For Sale section: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2608792

Price for block eruptor is 12 BTC now. Went down 0.5 BTC. And only scam singles are 35. Why dont you go buy one and let us know

Also stop wasting my time. Why don't you just place an order right now for batch #3 for $6k.

The post you looked up is from June when they were 12 BTC and that guy sells to europeans for higher price than they cost in the US.

Check Canaryinthemine (US based ASICMiner distributor), they are going for 10.5 BTC each, they are in stock and ship super fast: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-batch-2223-asicminer-usb-blade-miners-277332

And when you can get 11GH/s for 10.5BTC brand new, not many people are dumb enough to pay 10BTC for just 5GH/s on an old jalapeno. I'm not trying to make you lower your price or anything, just correcting your price equations Tongue

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Quote from: dogie on August 27, 2013, 08:08:08 AM

Quote from: dxtwo on August 27, 2013, 07:33:47 AM

Quote from: semaster on August 27, 2013, 05:20:21 AM

Dont forget BTC scales with difficulty. Did you account for that? And if BTC is 300 at the end of the year, what does that mean? its more than doubled its efficiency.

If you require price increase to ROI, then you might as well just buy and hold btc.

This coming from the guy who was selling Block Eruptors FOREVER for 35+... get the f out of here. What a hypocrite. Even when you were selling them at that price they were NOT EVEN CLOSE for ROI. Looks like that didn't work out too well for you. When they dropped in price I saw that you were still selling a lot of them for that price...looks like you were left holding the bag.

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Quote from: lyth0s on August 27, 2013, 10:40:32 PM

Quote from: dxtwo on August 26, 2013, 08:24:47 PM

Comparisons:

(ASICminer USB STICKS) 115,000 / 333 = 345 USB sticks * 0.4 BTC each = *drum roll* 138 BTC for equivalent hash rate.

(ASICminer Blades) 115,000 / 11000 (avg) = 10.45 blades * 12.5 BTC = 130 BTC

(BFL Singles 60 GH x 2) 55GH (they average 55; I have two) = 90-100 BTC total

(BFL Jalapenos) 110,000 / 5000 = 22 jalapenos = 220 BTC

Besides the ASIC block erupters your math is completely off due to your pricing per machine...

1. ASIC blades are currently 10.5 BTC brand new
2. BFL Singles are 35 BTC used (and very tough to sell at that price)
3. Jalapenos are closer to 5-6 BTC, and there are many people trying to sell their jalapeno at 6 BTC with no luck.

I'm actually really surprised you tried to pass off a jalapeno for 10 BTC each.

Anyways, I offer $2,500 USD cash and local pickup in southern callifornia.

I just looked at a couple links on the first page and those were the prices shown. You're also wrong. First page of For Sale section: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2608792

Price for block eruptor is 12 BTC now. Went down 0.5 BTC. And only scam singles are 35. Why dont you go buy one and let us know

Also stop wasting my time. Why don't you just place an order right now for batch #3 for $6k.

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Quote from: dxtwo on August 26, 2013, 08:24:47 PM

Comparisons:

(ASICminer USB STICKS) 115,000 / 333 = 345 USB sticks * 0.4 BTC each = *drum roll* 138 BTC for equivalent hash rate.

(ASICminer Blades) 115,000 / 11000 (avg) = 10.45 blades * 12.5 BTC = 130 BTC

(BFL Singles 60 GH x 2) 55GH (they average 55; I have two) = 90-100 BTC total

(BFL Jalapenos) 110,000 / 5000 = 22 jalapenos = 220 BTC

Besides the ASIC block erupters your math is completely off due to your pricing per machine...

1. ASIC blades are currently 10.5 BTC brand new
2. BFL Singles are 35 BTC used (and very tough to sell at that price)
3. Jalapenos are closer to 5-6 BTC, and there are many people trying to sell their jalapeno at 6 BTC with no luck.

I'm actually really surprised you tried to pass off a jalapeno for 10 BTC each.

Anyways, I offer $2,500 USD cash and local pickup in southern callifornia.

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Quote from: dxtwo on August 27, 2013, 07:33:47 AM

Quote from: semaster on August 27, 2013, 05:20:21 AM

Dont forget BTC scales with difficulty. Did you account for that? And if BTC is 300 at the end of the year, what does that mean? its more than doubled its efficiency.

If you require price increase to ROI, then you might as well just buy and hold btc.

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