[WTS] Casascius 2011 Error 1BTC Series 1 - page 3.

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Quote from: Moebius327 on June 01, 2015, 09:06:20 AM

Quote from: miffman on June 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM

Quote from: wheresmycoin on June 01, 2015, 08:31:45 AM

Quote from: cyclops on June 01, 2015, 06:49:35 AM

Looks definitely peeled to me, if you hold a Casascius and look at it with a certain angle, and light it will slightly show the honeycomb pattern. But not as clear and evident as the pictures.

thanks, you are the first person to also point out the visibility of honeycomb for an untempered coin.

Maybe, but he wasn't vouching for your coin. Nevertheless, I will offer 1.1 with escrow.

well ok, but what if the coin is tempered with? will you release the escrow, or will you dispute the trade? Grin

If it is funded, I would release the escrow.

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Quote from: miffman on June 01, 2015, 08:55:56 AM

Quote from: wheresmycoin on June 01, 2015, 08:31:45 AM

Quote from: cyclops on June 01, 2015, 06:49:35 AM

Looks definitely peeled to me, if you hold a Casascius and look at it with a certain angle, and light it will slightly show the honeycomb pattern. But not as clear and evident as the pictures.

thanks, you are the first person to also point out the visibility of honeycomb for an untempered coin.

Maybe, but he wasn't vouching for your coin. Nevertheless, I will offer 1.1 with escrow.

well ok, but what if the coin is tempered with? will you release the escrow, or will you dispute the trade? Grin

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Quote from: wheresmycoin on June 01, 2015, 08:31:45 AM

Quote from: cyclops on June 01, 2015, 06:49:35 AM

Looks definitely peeled to me, if you hold a Casascius and look at it with a certain angle, and light it will slightly show the honeycomb pattern. But not as clear and evident as the pictures.

thanks, you are the first person to also point out the visibility of honeycomb for an untempered coin.

Maybe, but he wasn't vouching for your coin. Nevertheless, I will offer 1.1 with escrow.

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Quote from: cyclops on June 01, 2015, 06:49:35 AM

Looks definitely peeled to me, if you hold a Casascius and look at it with a certain angle, and light it will slightly show the honeycomb pattern. But not as clear and evident as the pictures.

thanks, you are the first person to also point out the visibility of honeycomb for an untempered coin.

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Quote from: hedgy73 on June 01, 2015, 06:08:13 AM

Quote from: wheresmycoin on June 01, 2015, 04:35:54 AM

if thats the case, how does one actually do it( as in the honeycombed photo shown)? What is the actual process?

This coin has not been tampered with, based on some solid evidences that i can pull out for you, i don't want to open up a truckload of worms. Anyone concerned may PM me for evidences. Cool

ps: will not be redeeming this coin.

i might lock this thread later on.

You would be better posting the evidence here to clear this situation up. At the moment it looks like you're either trying to sell a coin that's been tampered with or a coin that you don't have. If you simply lock the thread it will look like you're trying to hide something.....

I'm not trying to give you a hard time it just doesn't look good at the moment.

already cyclops mentions the honeycomb pattern is slightly visible.

The degree of visibility differs/depends from coin to coin w holograms.

You see as we move along, things starts looking legit and in line with what i said.

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Star Wars Ep. 9 is here

I'm curious what kind of value is placed on this if OP could sell it. Does the next buyer treat the BTC value as a 50/50 gamble? So its worth the value of a peeled coin and some speculative gamble?

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Looks definitely peeled to me, if you hold a Casascius and look at it with a certain angle, and light it will slightly show the honeycomb pattern. But not as clear and evident as the pictures.

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Quote from: wheresmycoin on June 01, 2015, 04:35:54 AM

if thats the case, how does one actually do it( as in the honeycombed photo shown)? What is the actual process?

This coin has not been tampered with, based on some solid evidences that i can pull out for you, i don't want to open up a truckload of worms. Anyone concerned may PM me for evidences. Cool

ps: will not be redeeming this coin.

i might lock this thread later on.

You would be better posting the evidence here to clear this situation up. At the moment it looks like you're either trying to sell a coin that's been tampered with or a coin that you don't have. If you simply lock the thread it will look like you're trying to hide something.....

I'm not trying to give you a hard time it just doesn't look good at the moment.

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Quote from: wheresmycoin on June 01, 2015, 05:11:42 AM

Quote from: Moebius327 on June 01, 2015, 05:04:26 AM

Quote from: wheresmycoin on June 01, 2015, 04:35:54 AM

if thats the case, how does one actually do it( as in the honeycombed photo shown)? What is the actual process?

This coin has not been tampered with, based on some solid evidences that i can pull out for you, i don't want to open up a truckload of worms. Anyone concerned may PM me for evidences. Cool

ps: will not be redeeming this coin.

i might lock this thread later on.

Could you perhaps post a picture with with your handwritten nickname? This would clear some things up.

its is handwritten in paint job. It would take a while to post another picture.

Yeah man, I don't really believe you have this coin until you post a picture with your handwritten nickname.

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Quote from: Moebius327 on June 01, 2015, 05:04:26 AM

Quote from: wheresmycoin on June 01, 2015, 04:35:54 AM

if thats the case, how does one actually do it( as in the honeycombed photo shown)? What is the actual process?

This coin has not been tampered with, based on some solid evidences that i can pull out for you, i don't want to open up a truckload of worms. Anyone concerned may PM me for evidences. Cool

ps: will not be redeeming this coin.

i might lock this thread later on.

Could you perhaps post a picture with with your handwritten nickname? This would clear some things up.

its is handwritten in paint job. It would take a while to post another picture.

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Quote from: wheresmycoin on June 01, 2015, 04:35:54 AM

if thats the case, how does one actually do it( as in the honeycombed photo shown)? What is the actual process?

This coin has not been tampered with, based on some solid evidences that i can pull out for you, i don't want to open up a truckload of worms. Anyone concerned may PM me for evidences. Cool

ps: will not be redeeming this coin.

i might lock this thread later on.

Could you perhaps post a picture with with your handwritten nickname? This would clear some things up.

wheresmycoin

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if thats the case, how does one actually do it( as in the honeycombed photo shown)? What is the actual process?

This coin has not been tampered with, based on some solid evidences that i can pull out for you, i don't want to open up a truckload of worms. Anyone concerned may PM me for evidences. Cool

ps: will not be redeeming this coin.

i might lock this thread later on.

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Quote from: Blazed on May 31, 2015, 10:46:09 PM

That coin has been tampered with...I have tried taking pictures of some error coins from all angles and can not replicate that. OP if you bought the coin that way I would redeem it ASAP and just sell the peeled coin (they still fetch at least .2BTC)

+1. OP it does look like the hologram has been tampered with to about half the coin width which could have given access to the private key.

Either contact who you bought it from or redeem it yourself and sell or keep the blank as Blazedout said. Nobody is going to buy it just in case someone does have a copy of the private key and redeems the bitcoin themselves after the sale.

P.S. If you do decide to redeem it and wanted to sell I would be interested in buying the blank if you retained some of the hologram.

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That coin has been tampered with...I have tried taking pictures of some error coins from all angles and can not replicate that. OP if you bought the coin that way I would redeem it ASAP and just sell the peeled coin (they still fetch at least .2BTC)

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price reduced: 2.5-3BTC

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coin quality looks decent, not suitable for fussy buyers. Cool

but you might get a decent grading for it.

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Quote from: Scamalert on May 31, 2015, 02:25:21 PM

Quote from: miffman on May 31, 2015, 01:36:17 PM

Just a slightly enlarged version: http://i62.tinypic.com/6f182x.jpg

Sorry to to this do you OP, but it is pretty important to know what you're buying.

This picture provides overwelming eveidence that this coin is peeled.
I think the miffman has done an excelent forensic job here.
I would like to hear what wheresmycoin has to say about that picture?
It is not unlikely that wheresmycoin was not aware of this untill now?

It would also great if the previous owners could be tracked....example who did wheresmycoin get the coin from, and who did that person get the coin from. It seams that there is someone in the line of owners who is up to no good.... It would be good if that person could be public known.

In case the original post should be deleted (by mistake, ofcause).... this is the coin in question:
http://casascius.uberbills.com/?address=142fuYHGtMifp3ofY9pCu4nd9mFVqqKms9

looks like some deterioration from that picture from miffman, but its not visible from the naked eye.

Honeycomb-effect can be seen throughout the whole of hologram though, not obvious, only certain angles.

Doesn't seem to me like its being tampered with. If you look closely at your existing coins you might find one too.

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Quote from: wheelz1200 on May 31, 2015, 04:19:33 PM

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The fact that the user name and date look like they have been photoshopped into the picture is also suspicious.

I was going to say that. Why photoshop your name and date?

as moebius mentioned, it is written in paint and then printed out. Didn't want to use a ball pen.

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I was going to say that having some experience with holograms I'd say that someone has played around with that one but Miffman's (excellent) proof shows it clearly.
Even simply applying the hologram and adhusting it slightly wouldn't do that. The honeycomb effect only takes place after the hologram has been put on the coin with pressure and is then peeled after.
The whole hologram may not have been peeped but the side of it has even tampered with. I'd be weary of buying this coin for that reason. In essence you'd have no idea if one of the owners along the line decided to copy down the private key somewhere.

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The fact that the user name and date look like they have been photoshopped into the picture is also suspicious.

Photoshopped is a bit exaggerated, more like a ms paint job. I would really like to buy one, but not this one.

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