Topic: [WTS] ipad2-16gb(new), ipad-32gb(used) (Read 3410 times)
Which is why I was asking if anyone had called the mods yet.
Newminerr, if you do this, you get 500 awesome points.
Only staff can see the IPs...
Also: has anyone reported this thread to mods yet?
Does anyone know this little shit's address? My friend's a lawyer and on our side.
One Time stamp + One IP = almost the exact location.Many time stamps + Many IP's (from the posts info) = pinpoint.
Newminerr, if you do this, you get 500 awesome points.
EDIT: Here's a copy of the messages he sent to me:
http://pastebin.com/X3WnteNw
HOW DO THESE SCAMS KEEP HAPPENING?!?!?!
Seriously. How can this type of thread not look suspicious? Has anyone actually done any stats on the relationship between low posts/no feedback and scams?
Here's my mindset going through this thread...the following happens in about 5 seconds:
"Oh...an IPad2...that'd be nice. Only 55 BTC? Hm....32 posts? Warning, warning, danger, danger!"
Seriously. How can this type of thread not look suspicious? Has anyone actually done any stats on the relationship between low posts/no feedback and scams?
Here's my mindset going through this thread...the following happens in about 5 seconds:
"Oh...an IPad2...that'd be nice. Only 55 BTC? Hm....32 posts? Warning, warning, danger, danger!"
Goddamn.. I say the same thing..! I can't believe after all the warnings, and all the BS that has happened here, people STILL fall for this..
If you were deceived by scammer, well, that happens, but READ first in how trades should be done..
It's freaking annoying to know that chances are high that is the SAME guy over and over.. This guy is getting bloody rich..!
Does anyone know this little shit's address? My friend's a lawyer and on our side.
One Time stamp + One IP = almost the exact location.Many time stamps + Many IP's (from the posts info) = pinpoint.
HOW DO THESE SCAMS KEEP HAPPENING?!?!?!
Seriously. How can this type of thread not look suspicious? Has anyone actually done any stats on the relationship between low posts/no feedback and scams?
Here's my mindset going through this thread...the following happens in about 5 seconds:
"Oh...an IPad2...that'd be nice. Only 55 BTC? Hm....32 posts? Warning, warning, danger, danger!"
Seriously. How can this type of thread not look suspicious? Has anyone actually done any stats on the relationship between low posts/no feedback and scams?
Here's my mindset going through this thread...the following happens in about 5 seconds:
"Oh...an IPad2...that'd be nice. Only 55 BTC? Hm....32 posts? Warning, warning, danger, danger!"
Does anyone know this little shit's address? My friend's a lawyer and on our side.
oh
And I'm out 6 BTC after doing my homework on this guy too late.
this guy (topic creator) is a scammer.. i pmed him earlier asking how much for the ipad1 and he said 170$ shipped... nobody would sell one for that. please ban him immediately unless hes mentally insane and actually would sell an ipad for 170 dollars
mods should make a rule if you're selling a product thats being shipped you have to post what way you will ship it in the first post and discuss escrow if it will or wont be used... if it wont be used then make them put "*NE" in the topic title meaning "NO ESCROW ALLOWED"
who will click a no escrow shipment goods topic from a non established member? nobody
if it sounds too good to be true, it is. ask a ton of questions and annoy the shit out of the seller
mods should make a rule if you're selling a product thats being shipped you have to post what way you will ship it in the first post and discuss escrow if it will or wont be used... if it wont be used then make them put "*NE" in the topic title meaning "NO ESCROW ALLOWED"
who will click a no escrow shipment goods topic from a non established member? nobody
if it sounds too good to be true, it is. ask a ton of questions and annoy the shit out of the seller
yes admin wont help until actually someone gets scammed, so evidence can be collected/given only after the scam happened
what evidence do they need??? i got my PM saved from this guy if that helps ...
any info you got and email etc.., contact a mod / admin and submit it to them the info you got, that should help
yes admin wont help until actually someone gets scammed, so evidence can be collected/given only after the scam happened
what evidence do they need??? i got my PM saved from this guy if that helps ...
yes admin wont help until actually someone gets scammed, so evidence can be collected/given only after the scam happened
I had a gut feeling and contacted an admin about him as soon as these were posted. Didn't amount to anything due to no evidence though.
Son of a crap.
If this guy is a scammer, I'm out 45 BTC as well, now. I sent him the BTC this weekend. He said he'd send a tracking code on Monday, but I haven't heard from him since I sent him the coin.
That was my "play around on MTgox money" that I devoted to buying my wife an anniversary present.
Fscking fantastic. Someone put a fscking scam tag on this guy.
If this guy is a scammer, I'm out 45 BTC as well, now. I sent him the BTC this weekend. He said he'd send a tracking code on Monday, but I haven't heard from him since I sent him the coin.
That was my "play around on MTgox money" that I devoted to buying my wife an anniversary present.
Fscking fantastic. Someone put a fscking scam tag on this guy.
Update: Looks like I got scammed. I heard back from etsanchez, and he at least had the decency to admit that it was a scam all along... not that it helps me much. At least I can make peace with the situation.
Yet another blow to the Bitcoin community. The level of due diligence that is required around here is really quite sad.
To etsanchez: Bravo, big man - you did a good job tricking me, and sliding under my 'scam radar' with flying colors. If you put the same amount of time into something constructive, you could really do quite well in this world. Heck, the iPad wasn't even destined for me - it was going to be a present for someone else. I hope one day you 'find your way' and pursue a path that will make the world a better place.
Yet another blow to the Bitcoin community. The level of due diligence that is required around here is really quite sad.
To etsanchez: Bravo, big man - you did a good job tricking me, and sliding under my 'scam radar' with flying colors. If you put the same amount of time into something constructive, you could really do quite well in this world. Heck, the iPad wasn't even destined for me - it was going to be a present for someone else. I hope one day you 'find your way' and pursue a path that will make the world a better place.
damn this is really sad now im ass out on some BTC too ... can we get this guy a scammer tag ASAP and lock up all his damn thread ugh
yes im salty !!!
Hey Nelisky,
Thanks for a link to that thread - I should have thought about doing something like that, but just didn't know who was willing and able to act as an intermediary.
It is nice to know that there are people out there actually concerned with the community.
Thanks for a link to that thread - I should have thought about doing something like that, but just didn't know who was willing and able to act as an intermediary.
It is nice to know that there are people out there actually concerned with the community.
My pleasure. You are somewhat new around here, and this place is very crowded now, but rest assured there are plenty of members concerned with the community, and a LOT of honest and friendly peers just around the corner, but as with most things we only feel the urge to come out and tell others when things go bad, thus it may look a lot worst than it actually is.
If people are careful and stop sending coins first to sellers who don't pass the "open to negotiate" test about, these scammers will eventually loose interest as income dries up, and hopefully leave altogether
Hey Nelisky,
Thanks for a link to that thread - I should have thought about doing something like that, but just didn't know who was willing and able to act as an intermediary.
It is nice to know that there are people out there actually concerned with the community.
Thanks for a link to that thread - I should have thought about doing something like that, but just didn't know who was willing and able to act as an intermediary.
It is nice to know that there are people out there actually concerned with the community.
Hey,
No, I haven't used an escrow since ClearCoin shut down. I've been having good luck so far... guess my luck might have run out.
I still have not yet heard back from etsanchez, so I've sent him a PM asking what's happening here. I've asked for a response in the next 48 hours.
Maybe I've been a bit naive, but I guess that's the way things go with a new currency. It's a bummer - if this has been a scam, it weakens the whole community, and just casts a shadow of doubt on other people's transactions.
No, I haven't used an escrow since ClearCoin shut down. I've been having good luck so far... guess my luck might have run out.
I still have not yet heard back from etsanchez, so I've sent him a PM asking what's happening here. I've asked for a response in the next 48 hours.
Maybe I've been a bit naive, but I guess that's the way things go with a new currency. It's a bummer - if this has been a scam, it weakens the whole community, and just casts a shadow of doubt on other people's transactions.
Just leaving this here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/trusted-members-and-the-escrow-league-37805
PS: unknown seller (post count means very little by itself) that "has been scammed by escrow" or "is in a hurry so no escrow" is, invariably, a scammer tell sign. Not saying escrow is always needed, but anyone not willing to negotiate terms or insisting in getting some sent first that doesn't have a perfect track record (or one at all) is a no go for me.
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