[WTS] - laser engraved bitcoin cards [preorder] PRICE REDUCTION - page 2.

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Quote from: spruce on July 22, 2011, 11:49:57 AM

But if the order is for an card engraved with a personal address, then what about order cancellation? The seller can't be expected to eat the cost of a useless engraved card because the customer changed his mind and didn't pay. If I were ordering (I'm not), I would be perfectly happy to pay up front. Amazon expects you to give your credit card details up front when you make any order, even if the card is only debited when the order is shipped.

Yes, I know that I took a risk accepting order this way, but I want believe that no one fraud for a small amount like that.

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Quote from: geek-trader on July 22, 2011, 11:36:49 AM

I wasn't really thinking clearly. All the major retailers (Amazon, etc) take payment when the order is shipped, not when the order is placed. It's really better that way.

Sorry about that.

But if the order is for an card engraved with a personal address, then what about order cancellation? The seller can't be expected to eat the cost of a useless engraved card because the customer changed his mind and didn't pay. If I were ordering (I'm not), I would be perfectly happy to pay up front. Amazon expects you to give your credit card details up front when you make any order, even if the card is only debited when the order is shipped.

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I wasn't really thinking clearly. All the major retailers (Amazon, etc) take payment when the order is shipped, not when the order is placed. It's really better that way.

Sorry about that.

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Quote from: SomeoneWeird on July 22, 2011, 03:20:26 AM

Quote from: ercolinux on July 22, 2011, 02:44:51 AM

Quote from: geek-trader on July 22, 2011, 02:22:38 AM

I'd like to pay now. Ordering now and paying in BTC in August is like you short-selling BTC.

No is not: price in BTC will be rearranged if there is a increase/decrease of BTC value (I can cover a +/-5% of fluctuaction around 13.9$/BTC). But if you prefer to pay now there is no problem at all.

What he means is that he might owe you 0.5btc (for example) now, but if the market crashes to $3 when he needs to pay you in a couple of months, he will owe you like 3btc.

I've got the point, is a double way risk because if he owe me 0.5BTC and market jumps to 30$ he will pay me only 0.2BTC.

If someone prefers to pay me now no problem at all: and I'll refund the BTC in excess according to the price table I've posted if number of ordered cards allow to reach a lower price before shipments.

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Quote from: ercolinux on July 22, 2011, 02:44:51 AM

Quote from: geek-trader on July 22, 2011, 02:22:38 AM

I'd like to pay now. Ordering now and paying in BTC in August is like you short-selling BTC.

No is not: price in BTC will be rearranged if there is a increase/decrease of BTC value (I can cover a +/-5% of fluctuaction around 13.9$/BTC). But if you prefer to pay now there is no problem at all.

What he means is that he might owe you 0.5btc (for example) now, but if the market crashes to $3 when he needs to pay you in a couple of months, he will owe you like 3btc.

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Quote from: geek-trader on July 22, 2011, 02:22:38 AM

I'd like to pay now. Ordering now and paying in BTC in August is like you short-selling BTC.

No is not: price in BTC will be rearranged if there is a increase/decrease of BTC value (I can cover a +/-5% of fluctuaction around 13.9$/BTC). But if you prefer to pay now there is no problem at all.

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Quote from: ercolinux on July 22, 2011, 01:51:41 AM

Good

We have reached the minum for the order. I hope to obtain some little discount from the supplier
Who is interested can PM me the bitcoin address that want to be engraved on as well as the mail address to which I've to delivery the cards. As soon as the cards are ready I'll send you back a picture of the cards with the BTC total so you can make the payment.
The cards will be ready for the shipment from 23-24 August (there are 3 weeks of summer holiday from next week).

I'd like to pay now. Ordering now and paying in BTC in August is like you short-selling BTC.

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Good

We have reached the minum for the order. I hope to obtain some little discount from the supplier
Who is interested can PM me the bitcoin address that want to be engraved on as well as the mail address to which I've to delivery the cards. As soon as the cards are ready I'll send you back a picture of the cards with the BTC total so you can make the payment.
The cards will be ready for the shipment from 23-24 August (there are 3 weeks of summer holiday from next week).

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I will buy 5.

SomeoneWeird

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I'll take a couple.

Hollie

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This account was a fraudulent account.

i'll get one as well

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I'll take one

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Quote from: sega01 on July 21, 2011, 02:40:19 PM

These look really neat to use for in-person transactions. If you don't mind saying, how do you make these laser cut cards?

Thanks,
sega01

The p2p use is exactly the use I've imagined.
For the building process: the card are made of a sandwich of 2 plastic layer, the support is thicker and white, the other layer is a black film on it, (the gold-silver version have black support and a brushed metallic layer). The laser "burn" away the upper layer engraving the qr-code, the logo and the writings. Actually that's not visible in the picture but alle the white is some 1/100th of mm engraved: it's a nice feel when you touch it.

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These look really neat to use for in-person transactions. If you don't mind saying, how do you make these laser cut cards?

Thanks,
sega01

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Quote from: Hollie on July 19, 2011, 02:00:08 PM

Price for 1 to the US?

(0,18-0,27) + 0.185 Shipment

Price depends on total number of requests I receive.
If I receive less then 10 request I can't print the cards due to some fixed costs.

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Price for 1 to the US?

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~~price reduction: I've reached 20cards ordered~~

I can made some small bitcoin card with laser engraved a qr-code uri compliant with your payment address. The material is a strong bilaminated plastic, flexible enough to don't break on every day usage but strong as a credit card.

The card can be made in black background/white writings as in picture or on silver/black - gold/black. Best contrast for qrcode is in black/white version but other colour works as well. Is possible to have a hole punched to use the as keychain or pendant.

The dimensions are 60x40 mm (2.36"x1.57").

Actually this is a pre-order only because I can't sent them before 1 month. If you're interested sent me a PM, the payment will be made just before shipment. Ships worldwide.
The cost of a card is depending on the total of card ordered (by total number I mean the total of all the orders your total order) :

~~10 to 20 cards: 0.27~~ <- done
20 to 50 cards: 0,24
from 51 - 99 : 0.195
100 or more: 0.18

shipments to Europe (up to 4 cards for more ask): 0.092BTC
shipments to USA (incl.Alaska and Haway),Canada, Asia: 0.185BTC
shipments to Oceania: 0.225BTC
Shipments made by ordinary postal service. If you need an express service we can arrange.

If you need more than 20 with the same qrcode I can engrave a small logo of your choiche and your motto (monocromatic) at no cost.
If BTC will drop or increase is value of more then 5% prices will be recalculated (base price calculate with BTC at 13.9$.

EDIT: A user give me a nice idea: if you make your vanitygen address (http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=25804.160) whit your name in it I can underscore it for free.

I keep the orginal post for historic reasons (every one who have already ordered keep the old prices). New prices fixed:

Black cards: 0,25BTC
Silver/Gold cards: 0,28
For more the 20 cards I can change the motto and the logo with one provided by you for free.
Discount for big quantity

Shipment up to 9 cards:
Europe (up to 9 cards): 0.12BTC
USA (incl.Alaska and Haway),Canada, Asia: 0.23BTC
Oceania: 0.29BTC

I try to mantain the card prices fixed. Shipment price could be revieved for BTC drop or increase in exchange ratio.

For free is possibile to underscore a part of the address and/or punch a hole in a corner to use as keyholder.

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