Heres a thought.
Since it seems unlikely that one "drop" will make that heart and that two drops, as suggested by Casascius, seems a bit more plausible, would they not overlap each other under magnification?
Topic: [WTS] Mega Ultra Rare 1BTC Silver-Gold Round /w "The Golden Heart" error! - page 3. (Read 5393 times)
July 08, 2014, 12:25:53 AM
July 08, 2014, 12:20:52 AM
Better charge that phone ASAP! I trust Bitmarket and he wouldn't fake this sorta thing..he showed me this coin several months back. I offered to buy it for 1.5BTC on the condition that I peel it when I get it...
July 08, 2014, 12:20:25 AM
"someone could have electroplated it himself and it would look the same..."
Even Mike Cladwell cannot confirm or deny this as plausible. Would this not set a precedent where people can just electroplate some gold into these coins and claim it is legit? I am not saying OP would do that. I'm just saying if a heart shape can appear on these coins directly from the mint and the creator cannot confirm or deny it, what is stopping people from etching something on these coins and claim whatever?
Does anyone have a coin that has the "drops" as Mike stated?
Even Mike Cladwell cannot confirm or deny this as plausible. Would this not set a precedent where people can just electroplate some gold into these coins and claim it is legit? I am not saying OP would do that. I'm just saying if a heart shape can appear on these coins directly from the mint and the creator cannot confirm or deny it, what is stopping people from etching something on these coins and claim whatever?
Does anyone have a coin that has the "drops" as Mike stated?
July 08, 2014, 12:12:36 AM
OK, the following is a conversation I just had with Mike tonight. Im not sure what my personal take-away is, but take from it what you will.
Cheers..
All images: http://imgur.com/hTo2Z23,eprAEOe,Q9S8wGT,E5FEBWM,24sgrJP#4
Cheers..
All images: http://imgur.com/hTo2Z23,eprAEOe,Q9S8wGT,E5FEBWM,24sgrJP#4
July 07, 2014, 10:13:37 PM
If you can prove to me that heart is not like a marker or something, and its actually engraved or embossed onto the coin Ill bid 7 BTC
I'll think about it. I value the coin more than that. If we do make the trade, I'll go ahead and send it to you first, and if you conclude it's legit, send me the BTC, if not, send it back.
It is legit, is it not? You said you were the original buyer of the coin. So either you put it there or you did not.
If it can be proven to be legit then I'll up my bid to 7.1BTC
Shalom Charlie.
I can understand the skepticism but now it's getting annoying. I'm not trolling/pranking anyone. And I don't like some of you discrediting my listing and devaluing my coin.
What you see pictured is what I received. After close examination I can say with conviction it's an error that occurred during the gold plating process. It's electro plated and matches the tone and color of the BTC. I would need to go to extreme lengths to fake something like this. The speck just happens to be heart shaped. I didn't notice it at first until placed my coins inside air-tights and went WTF?! When you purchase a roll they don't come in air-tights. Instead you receive them in some elongated pill shaped enclosure with 20 slots which splits open like a BBQ smoker.
I emailed Mike and asked him if there is something he can do to help me put your mind at ease. Perhaps I can send it off to him and he can examine it and sign off. Anyway I will have some very high res shots soon. Be patient. Don't be negative.
July 07, 2014, 10:03:10 PM
Only Mike Cladwell himself can confirm this.
My guess on how it got there:
1. original owner wanted to play a prank
2. a helper for Mike Cladwell slipped this heart picture through Mike's watchful eyes.
The second option is highly unlikely in my opinion.
My guess on how it got there:
1. original owner wanted to play a prank
2. a helper for Mike Cladwell slipped this heart picture through Mike's watchful eyes.
The second option is highly unlikely in my opinion.
Ive sent this over to Mike for confirmation.
July 07, 2014, 09:52:31 PM
Only Mike Cladwell himself can confirm this.
My guess on how it got there:
1. original owner wanted to play a prank
2. a helper for Mike Cladwell slipped this heart picture through Mike's watchful eyes.
The second option is highly unlikely in my opinion.
My guess on how it got there:
1. original owner wanted to play a prank
2. a helper for Mike Cladwell slipped this heart picture through Mike's watchful eyes.
The second option is highly unlikely in my opinion.
July 07, 2014, 09:44:38 PM
If you can prove to me that heart is not like a marker or something, and its actually engraved or embossed onto the coin Ill bid 7 BTC
I'll think about it. I value the coin more than that. If we do make the trade, I'll go ahead and send it to you first, and if you conclude it's legit, send me the BTC, if not, send it back.
It is legit, is it not? You said you were the original buyer of the coin. So either you put it there or you did not.
If it can be proven to be legit then I'll up my bid to 7.1BTC
Shalom Charlie.
July 07, 2014, 09:03:34 PM
Yep. There will be soon. Once I get a real camera. Either late this week or early next week. I'll post new pics. No worries.
What I really need is access to Duke's gigapixel camera (http://disp.duke.edu/projects/AWARE/)
Their shots are remarkable. http://www.replayphotos.com/fancam/duke-unc-basketball-110209.cfm
I mean if that doesn't capture the details, nothing else will...
What I really need is access to Duke's gigapixel camera (http://disp.duke.edu/projects/AWARE/)
Their shots are remarkable. http://www.replayphotos.com/fancam/duke-unc-basketball-110209.cfm
I mean if that doesn't capture the details, nothing else will...
July 07, 2014, 09:01:31 PM
If you can prove to me that heart is not like a marker or something, and its actually engraved or embossed onto the coin Ill bid 7 BTC
I'll think about it. I value the coin more than that. If we do make the trade, I'll go ahead and send it to you first, and if you conclude it's legit, send me the BTC, if not, send it back.
I just dont wanna touch it myself either lol, there has to be a way to see it close up..
July 07, 2014, 08:48:05 PM
If you can prove to me that heart is not like a marker or something, and its actually engraved or embossed onto the coin Ill bid 7 BTC
I'll think about it. I value the coin more than that. If we do make the trade, I'll go ahead and send it to you first, and if you conclude it's legit, send me the BTC, if not, send it back.
July 07, 2014, 08:17:58 PM
If you can prove to me that heart is not like a marker or something, and its actually engraved or embossed onto the coin Ill bid 7 BTC
July 07, 2014, 06:43:43 PM
Yeah he offered LTC. Trolling around here. Thanks blazedout.
I feel 2.2 is waaayyyyy too low. I gave it a realistic price of 10BTC starting. Not really sure how to price this thing as it's one-of-a-kind. It's a really cool coin though. When I first got this coin I was like WTF is this! Turned out when they gold plated the B they screwed something up and gold plated a speck that makes up a perfectly shaped heart. Has been my favorite coin ever since. The only other error coins out there are the S1 Brass coins, and that was a typo printed on the sticker. This is an error by the mint. On the face of the coin. Very distinguished. When it comes to paper money, any type of defect by the mint (like a folded bill or a miss print) significantly boosts the value. Example: http://0.tqn.com/w/experts/Coin-Collecting-2297/2009/02/Dollar-bill-images.jpg
I ordered a Canon EOS camara. When it arrives I'll take a very high res macro shot so you can see all the details. Current photos were takes with an iPhone 5s. Not the best tool in the shed.
I feel 2.2 is waaayyyyy too low. I gave it a realistic price of 10BTC starting. Not really sure how to price this thing as it's one-of-a-kind. It's a really cool coin though. When I first got this coin I was like WTF is this! Turned out when they gold plated the B they screwed something up and gold plated a speck that makes up a perfectly shaped heart. Has been my favorite coin ever since. The only other error coins out there are the S1 Brass coins, and that was a typo printed on the sticker. This is an error by the mint. On the face of the coin. Very distinguished. When it comes to paper money, any type of defect by the mint (like a folded bill or a miss print) significantly boosts the value. Example: http://0.tqn.com/w/experts/Coin-Collecting-2297/2009/02/Dollar-bill-images.jpg
I ordered a Canon EOS camara. When it arrives I'll take a very high res macro shot so you can see all the details. Current photos were takes with an iPhone 5s. Not the best tool in the shed.
The only way that coin would be worth 10 btc is if it's face value was 5 btc.
I do agree that it's a cool error but its not worth anywhere near 10 btc.
I'll up my bid to 2.5 btc and I'll keep checking back to see how things go here.
Good luck.
10 BTC is lofty but can't say if it's reasonable or unreasonable. There are several factors to consider: coin rarity, variety rarity, and grade rarity. This coin definitely has two of the three attributes and if grades well would certainly be a "crown jewel".
July 07, 2014, 06:10:58 PM
cool piece. its worth more than 10btc.
but i would convert all my physicals into digital btc in this bull market.
but i would convert all my physicals into digital btc in this bull market.
July 07, 2014, 04:17:38 PM
Wow this is absolutely stunning!
Can you take a close up shot of the heart?
Can you tell us more about it, are you the first owner?
Are you sure the previous owner has not just drawn this on?
Happy to do escrow!
Charlie
Can you take a close up shot of the heart?
Can you tell us more about it, are you the first owner?
Are you sure the previous owner has not just drawn this on?
Happy to do escrow!
Charlie
I'm having a hard time getting my iPhone 5s camera to focus on that little speck. It keeps focusing on the mirror finish (the polished parts of the coin). And when I zoom in it just gets noisy. HOWEVER I have a Canon EOS camera heading my way and I'll be more than happy to take some macro shots and capture all the details.
Yes, first owner, directly shipped from Mike. From a roll of 20. I even emailed Mike about it the day I received it and told him how awesome it was.
No previous owner.
Here is my post in december: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.4162394
It's satoshi's kiss!
July 07, 2014, 04:14:56 PM
I doubt Mike even noticed.
As someone who regularly assembles coins with holograms, I can tell you that it would have been extremely hard to miss. He did make thousands of these very quickly though. I guess it's possible he was seeing golden spots everywhere on some late nights. I'd be interested in hearing Casascius' take on this.
July 07, 2014, 04:10:34 PM
Wow this is absolutely stunning!
Can you take a close up shot of the heart?
Can you tell us more about it, are you the first owner?
Are you sure the previous owner has not just drawn this on?
Happy to do escrow!
Charlie
Can you take a close up shot of the heart?
Can you tell us more about it, are you the first owner?
Are you sure the previous owner has not just drawn this on?
Happy to do escrow!
Charlie
July 07, 2014, 04:06:48 PM
Ok, I'll up my bid.. 3BTC
July 07, 2014, 04:02:23 PM
*Whips out 24kt gold pen and begins drawing heart shapes on his Casascius Coins*
That's funny. I've had people tell me on IRC that it looks like I used a sharpie. But nope, it's the real deal. That's how it shipped from Mike. I don't think I have the guts to deface such a beautiful coin.
If you got a signed statement from Mike saying that was the case, I'm sure the coin would bring out more serious offers...
I doubt Mike even noticed. This was in a roll of 20. If you held the coin and observed it first hand you'll see it's gold plated on there the exact way the B is gold plated. It's not something one can dissolve with 91% isopropyl. I posted this coin on the forum over half a year ago when Mike shipped his last batch of rolls. The notion of defacing a coin with a golden sharpie is absolute insanity.
Edit: Assuming it does sell for the right price, I don't mind keeping the funds in escrow until you can sleep sound at night, resting assured your golden heart is the real deal.
July 07, 2014, 03:50:38 PM
*Whips out 24kt gold pen and begins drawing heart shapes on his Casascius Coins*
That's funny. I've had people tell me on IRC that it looks like I used a sharpie. But nope, it's the real deal. That's how it shipped from Mike. I don't think I have the guts to deface such a beautiful coin.
If you got a signed statement from Mike saying that was the case, I'm sure the coin would bring out more serious offers...
Adding real gold like that to a coin is about as cheap and easy as using a sharpie if you have the proper tools at your disposal. That's why some coin collectors think of the gold added ones as being ruined silver coins.
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