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I would bet you are NOT out here to scam someone, you already have proven that reputation on this board... but using improper terms like "Unlimited" and "its anonymous, but i'm wondering how some of my clients haven't gotten caught yet...
I've added Unlimited speed. *minimum 8Mbps/s guaranteed.
No. I was wondering why my server hasn't been taken down or why my server provider hasn't emailed me about copyright/illegal activities.
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If I may.

Here's the problem. 

Quite a few times, (I'm a BMW Enthusiast) I've gone too look at older BMWs, like E30s for example.  The dude selling the car will pop the hood and say "Here is an amazing BMW V6 Engine..." I stop him right there and say outloud "You're a moron!" and I leave.

I have to.

By default I can already assume:  He is NOT the owner of the car.  He does NOT know anything about BMWs.  He CERTAINLY did NOT change the Timing Belt every 100k miles.

BMW does NOT make a V6.

Now he may have been "a good guy" and an "honest guy" but he was NOT gaining my trust or my money because of his inexperience. It was too much of a gamble for me.  I'd respect him if he stuck with Fords and Mopar out where he belongs.

I would bet you are NOT out here to scam someone, you already have proven that reputation on this board... but using improper terms like "Unlimited" and "its anonymous, but i'm wondering how some of my clients haven't gotten caught yet...

The purpose in selling the VPN is to attract people who are not qualified to build and maintain their own VPN.  And you've scored there for sure.

But f THEY are identifying loopholes like you pointing out a V6 in a Bimmer then its gonna be hard.

Bottom line: Have a nice "Sell Sheet" made up and post it around the forums... just be the dude collecting the BTC and these guys won't troll you... (as much)

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  • Bought VPN for BTC0.5
  • Downloaded
  • Now in jail  Embarrassed
  • Now in jail  Embarrassed
  • Buttsecks  Lips sealed
  • Profit  Huh
  • Bought VPN for BTC0.5
  • Downloaded a car
  • Sped through school zone
  • Now in jail  Embarrassed
  • buttwallet.dat Lips sealed
  • Profit  Huh
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WOw,  there's 3D downloading now. Awesome!
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¿Sabe lo que quiero decir?
    Maybe someone should be an audit of my service.
    1. buy my VPN
    2. Use it to download some "files"
    3.See what happens and provide feedbacks.

    Awesome....

    • Bought VPN for BTC0.5
    • Downloaded
    • Now in jail  Embarrassed
    • Now in jail  Embarrassed
    • Buttsecks  Lips sealed
    • Profit  Huh
    • Bought VPN for BTC0.5
    • Downloaded a car
    • Sped through school zone
    • Now in jail  Embarrassed
    • buttwallet.dat Lips sealed
    • Profit  Huh
    full member
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    Awesome....

    • Bought VPN for BTC0.5
    • Downloaded
    • Now in jail  Embarrassed
    • Buttsecks  Lips sealed
    • Profit  Huh
    Do you think you would got to jail if you just download not too illegal files using a server located in another country? Or I would setup a server and build a reputation here just to entrap one person?
     You could use another VPN so that you download the content through double VPN to audit my service.
    newbie
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    Maybe someone should be an audit of my service.
    1. buy my VPN
    2. Use it to download some "files"
    3.See what happens and provide feedbacks.

    Awesome....

    • Bought VPN for BTC0.5
    • Downloaded
    • Now in jail  Embarrassed
    • Buttsecks  Lips sealed
    • Profit  Huh
    full member
    Activity: 140
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    Maybe someone should be an audit of my service.
    1. buy my VPN
    2. Use it to download some "files"
    3.See what happens and provide feedbacks.
    member
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    Yes. Some email provider offer unlimited space. But I guess you have to transform your files to bit and email it to yourself by 10000000000 emails.

    They've done this before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GmailFS

    Access time would be atrocious though I'd imagine. That's how you do 'unlimited space' when the space is your product (as opposed to someone selling someone else some space). Load servers up to the gills with 2/3TB drives then pepper it with all these emails. Some will even show you what sort of minimum budget you'd require: http://blog.backblaze.com/2009/09/01/petabytes-on-a-budget-how-to-build-cheap-cloud-storage/

    Stu
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    so it's limited to 1Mbit?

    'unlimited' is an industry-wide lie.


    Yay!  Someone.

    I want an unlimited Hard Drive.  Can I get Unlimited Space.


    Yes. Some email provider offer unlimited space. But I guess you have to transform your files to bit and email it to yourself by 10000000000 emails.
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    so it's limited to 1Mbit?

    'unlimited' is an industry-wide lie.


    Yay!  Someone.

    I want an unlimited Hard Drive.  Can I get Unlimited Space.

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    Server suspended, probably as we speak.
    I was wondering why that hadn't happened myself. Maybe most customers don't do too serious illegal things and those who does uses tor or another VPN together with mine because they cannot trust me completely for those kinds of "business" and have to use double proxy to avoid risks.
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    Well sort of, it is possible to sell unlimited bandwidth if you have enough capacity at a fixed rate to sustain it. In Australia you can get unlimited bandwidth but you'll be capped at a set speed. 1Mbit of bandwidth in Australia realistically costs ~200-300/month. It's unlimited but it isn't oversold (cause you can't do more than 1Mbit).

    Stu

    so it's limited to 1Mbit?

    'unlimited' is an industry-wide lie.


    Well, yeah... Actually in Aus it's called 'unmetered' because when some providers tried to say 'unlimited' the consumer protections regulator slammed them. I tend to agree 'unlimited' is an industry lie, usually it's unlimited*

    * As long as you don't break out usage forecasts. Smiley

    Stu
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    Do you oversell bandwidth?
    Since he sells unlimited bandwidth and probably doesn't actually have unlimited bandwidth ...

    Of course, everyone oversells bandwidth.


    Well sort of, it is possible to sell unlimited bandwidth if you have enough capacity at a fixed rate to sustain it. In Australia you can get unlimited bandwidth but you'll be capped at a set speed. 1Mbit of bandwidth in Australia realistically costs ~200-300/month. It's unlimited but it isn't oversold (cause you can't do more than 1Mbit).

    Stu

    so it's limited to 1Mbit?

    'unlimited' is an industry-wide lie.
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    Actually, at least in Australia, Yes. Sure, this guys service provider is protected by the telecommunications carriage act only but only if they maintain appropriate contact information. The same applies for this guy himself. If he fails to collect information about all who have access via his infrastructure probably the only thing stopping him from getting arrested is that he isn't IN Australia.

    While being arrested may seem unlikely, the cooperation of a VPN operating business which doesn't collect user information (once again at least within australia) that is utilised for things such as organised crime would be subject to much more stringent laws and fewer legal representation options, notably, the Australian Crime Commission which holds the power to interrogate anyone without a lawyer and imprison them for extended lengths with minimal public oversight. Taking this one step further, the use of the services for terrorism related communication would then involve the Attorney General, ASIO and probably ASIS. This involvement can and does happen on a regular basis including compelling companies to collect all exit data, install wiretapping capabilities for a specific user among other things. All this guy is doing is making sure he's the fall guy for his customers, if he thinks that he'll just ignore Australian authorities he's failed to acknowledge the bilateral intelligence sharing agreements Australia, the UK and the U.S.A have in place.

    Stu
    They need to find me before they could arrest me. Thus I have to stay anonymous and none of my IP used on this forum or forum related email is my real IP.
    I'm not in Australia, UK or U.S.A.
    Just search "anonymous hosting australia" You could find all sorts of hosting server in Australia anonymously.
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    What kind of software do you recommend to stop traffic when the VPN drops the connection?
    For windows, http://wiki.hidemyass.com/Tutorials:How_to_use_Windows_Firewall_for_blocking_non-VPN_traffic_-_IP_binding in step 9, choose all program
    For Mac, IPFW
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    What kind of software do you recommend to stop traffic when the VPN drops the connection?
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    Everyone involved in this thread has no idea about "Bandwidth," (LOL @ Unlimited) "Law Enforcement" (LOL @ Australian Federal Police) and OpenVPN (LOL @ limiting the unlimited bandwidth).

    Actually, I'd argue I have quite an idea about bandwidth and law enforcement since I've worked in the ISP industry ~15 years.

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    Go to jail?  No.

    Actually, at least in Australia, Yes. Sure, this guys service provider is protected by the telecommunications carriage act only but only if they maintain appropriate contact information. The same applies for this guy himself. If he fails to collect information about all who have access via his infrastructure probably the only thing stopping him from getting arrested is that he isn't IN Australia.

    While being arrested may seem unlikely, the cooperation of a VPN operating business which doesn't collect user information (once again at least within australia) that is utilised for things such as organised crime would be subject to much more stringent laws and fewer legal representation options, notably, the Australian Crime Commission which holds the power to interrogate anyone without a lawyer and imprison them for extended lengths with minimal public oversight. Taking this one step further, the use of the services for terrorism related communication would then involve the Attorney General, ASIO and probably ASIS. This involvement can and does happen on a regular basis including compelling companies to collect all exit data, install wiretapping capabilities for a specific user among other things. All this guy is doing is making sure he's the fall guy for his customers, if he thinks that he'll just ignore Australian authorities he's failed to acknowledge the bilateral intelligence sharing agreements Australia, the UK and the U.S.A have in place.

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    I didn't manually limit the bandwidth of my customer. Plus, not many people choose Australia VPN. You could choose servers in other locations e.g. U.S in case you fear the bandwidth in Australia.

    So your business model is based on your service not being popular in certain locations... Great...

    Stu

    P.S. Strictly a personal opinion only.
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    Everyone involved in this thread has no idea about "Bandwidth," (LOL @ Unlimited) "Law Enforcement" (LOL @ Australian Federal Police) and OpenVPN (LOL @ limiting the unlimited bandwidth).

    Go to jail?  No.

    Server suspended, probably as we speak.

    Slap your face for even entertaining this, I can sell you a Bridge over in Brooklyn, its pretty awesome.

    ...now when the Unlimtied Hard Drives debut.. get me on that list.  I have bitcoins.
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    a) You claim it is anonymous however you (or your providers, do they know you're running this?) are obligated to record appropriate identification information as part of the Australian Telecommunications Act (and it's associated Interception ones). How will you address this when receiving an information requests from the Australian Federal Police?
    They will record personal info for those who contact with them directly. After that, it's free game. No info/Little info which could be easily forged is needed. If Police contacted the provider,  I simply doesn't care. Best thing they could do is to unplug the server, which could be easily fixed within days.



    b) Bandwidth in Australia is obscenely expensive by comparison to essentially everyone else. You're either offering this service with a poorly structure business plan or overselling your bandwidth from your exit points calling into question the viability of the platform for VPN services. Do you oversell bandwidth?

    Stuart
    I didn't manually limit the bandwidth of my customer. Plus, not many people choose Australia VPN. You could choose servers in other locations e.g. U.S in case you fear the bandwidth in Australia.
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    Do you oversell bandwidth?
    Since he sells unlimited bandwidth and probably doesn't actually have unlimited bandwidth ...

    Of course, everyone oversells bandwidth.


    Well sort of, it is possible to sell unlimited bandwidth if you have enough capacity at a fixed rate to sustain it. In Australia you can get unlimited bandwidth but you'll be capped at a set speed. 1Mbit of bandwidth in Australia realistically costs ~200-300/month. It's unlimited but it isn't oversold (cause you can't do more than 1Mbit).

    Stu
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