WW3 - Are we all gonna die? - page 2.

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I stand with Ukraine.

Quote from: johhnyUA on January 08, 2020, 09:30:46 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2020, 10:15:39 AM

And forget about China and Russia taking their side. The children of the top politicians from there are living in the West, so they won't bomb their own kids.

Excellent words! It's funny to see how russian "president" (in fact - german spy and actor) showing cartoons about bombing Florida, while vice president of russian rocket company "Pocкocмoc" bought some new villa in Florida last year.

Or if something happens, russian politics runs to London, to headquarter of "Evil NATO". Daughter of Dmitry Peskov living in France and daughter of Lavrov living in London. Son of Dmitry Medvedev has USA citizenship.

Also, Russia has GDP like 1.5 billions of usd while America has 19 billions. Russia can fight only in proxy wars, like in Ukraine.

I agree with you regarding hypocrisy of the top Russian politicians, and that Russia is no match to the US in military strength, because Russia simply can't afford spending that much on weapons

Quote from: https://armedforces.eu/compare/country_USA_vs_Russia

And I just want to add that not only Russia, but no one, except for Kim Jong-un, maybe, wants a big war nowadays. Everything got intertwined so much that there will be no winners in the WW3, if it happens, there will be only losers.

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I have bad news for you. Each and every one of us is going to die.

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Why so serious? We're not ALL gonna die. Maybe just some of us. Specifically the poorer ones, we're the one that are used as cannon fodder. Grin

I just hope it don't spill over into Asia unlike the last world war though that's unlikely coz if this explode into a world war, China will not let this slip without them gaining anything.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2020, 10:15:39 AM

And forget about China and Russia taking their side. The children of the top politicians from there are living in the West, so they won't bomb their own kids.

Excellent words! It's funny to see how russian "president" (in fact - german spy and actor) showing cartoons about bombing Florida, while vice president of russian rocket company "Pocкocмoc" bought some new villa in Florida last year.

Or if something happens, russian politics runs to London, to headquarter of "Evil NATO". Daughter of Dmitry Peskov living in France and daughter of Lavrov living in London. Son of Dmitry Medvedev has USA citizenship.

Also, Russia has GDP like 1.5 billions of usd while America has 19 billions. Russia can fight only in proxy wars, like in Ukraine.

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I stand with Ukraine.

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2020, 10:15:39 AM

Read about the previous world wars, WW1 and WW2. They were between coalitions, more or less equal in strength. Now imagine Iran fights with all Western world. They know very well they are going to lose pretty quickly. And forget about China and Russia taking their side. The children of the top politicians from there are living in the West, so they won't bomb their own kids.

I actually don't see anyone siding with Iran against the USA and it's allies especially now that they have the backings of NATO as well and also let's consider that Soleimani wasn't really a saint at all, He is a very bad man who did horrific things no country in their right mind will ally themselves to Iran because of his assassination.

I personally absolutely agree with you, but politics is a dirty game. Anti-Western governments would be more than happy to side with Iran, and defeat the USA and its allies, no matter how bad Soleimani really was, but it's obvious even to them that they are going to fail in this enterprise. And I think this realization of the imminent defeat is what constrains them more than all other things.

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Iran doesn't have a single ally ready to officially support it in a military confrontation with the United States. This means that Iran is doomed to defeat, but what will be the path? Now the ball is on the field of Americans. If they strike back, then a regional war is inevitable, if they refrain from direct aggression, then the possibility of de-escalation will continue.

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Quote from: keeee on January 08, 2020, 08:32:46 AM

Quote from: GideonGono on January 08, 2020, 01:37:06 AM

Quote from: Rafael_Carrero on January 07, 2020, 01:01:32 AM

The third world war is only hypothetical. National leaders understand that WWIII may destroy everything. Who really wants it? Nobody!
I thought that Trump considered conflict in Iran as a way to distract attention from his impeachment.

But if everybody affect from the war then it can cause too because we can't have a freedom if no one would down their pride unless they got win from the fight. We suffer from a strong opponent which has a goal so we can't easy stop the war.

I agree, in fact when world war III really happen many innocent people will die between the war. Just like what the war before, it can cause destruction to both party. But we are still praying and hoping that peace may win between US and IRAN.

There are already enough war in middle east and millions have died in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Yemen. We have to find a way to solve problems through dialogues otherwise this beautiful earth will continue to be a hell place for our coming generations. Let's not do that.

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Quote from: GideonGono on January 08, 2020, 01:37:06 AM

Quote from: Rafael_Carrero on January 07, 2020, 01:01:32 AM

The third world war is only hypothetical. National leaders understand that WWIII may destroy everything. Who really wants it? Nobody!
I thought that Trump considered conflict in Iran as a way to distract attention from his impeachment.

But if everybody affect from the war then it can cause too because we can't have a freedom if no one would down their pride unless they got win from the fight. We suffer from a strong opponent which has a goal so we can't easy stop the war.

I agree, in fact when world war III really happen many innocent people will die between the war. Just like what the war before, it can cause destruction to both party. But we are still praying and hoping that peace may win between US and IRAN.

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Quote from: eddie13 on January 07, 2020, 12:57:16 PM

It could go many ways if Russia and China decide they are feeling lucky..
How sure are they that their nukes could even hit the USA?
What position would they then be in if they launched nukes just for them to plop into the ocean?
How much technology and futuristic weaponry/defense does the USA really have that remains top secret?
When was the last time the USA declassified serious secret aircraft like the now 60 year old Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird?
What do you think the USA could have now that is still secret tech after all of these years, and you can bet the USA is at the absolute pinnacle of technology, the likes of which the world has yet to see..
It's a huge gamble for them to even think their weapons would be effective..

Do ya feel lucky punk? Do ya?

I hope they try, someone should stop these terrorists. and some of them are obviously psychopaths

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Quote from: Rafael_Carrero on January 07, 2020, 01:01:32 AM

The third world war is only hypothetical. National leaders understand that WWIII may destroy everything. Who really wants it? Nobody!
I thought that Trump considered conflict in Iran as a way to distract attention from his impeachment.

But if everybody affect from the war then it can cause too because we can't have a freedom if no one would down their pride unless they got win from the fight. We suffer from a strong opponent which has a goal so we can't easy stop the war.

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No, we're not 'all' going to die.

Each chosen person gets 2800 non-chosen semi-persons for their own use. If you are a (semi-) person who will help the 'chosen people' in their goals (e.g., be a 'good noahide'), you've got a chance.

Alternately, if enough people take the time to understand the play-book that is currently being used, there is a very good chance to avoid calamity. The simple fact of the matter is that this thing ends up working out very well only for a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of humans. There is no reason for almost anyone to lend support. They do so only out of ignorance most of the time.

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WW3 is everything following WW2. It started with the Korean conflict in 1950, even though U.S. soldiers were stationed in S. Korea during the end of WW2.

There is too much money in warring. That's why we have been in WW3 ever since WW2.

What might WW4 be like? That'll probably be Jesus's return to take over the world... which He owns, anyway, even though the Devil is the price of this world currently.

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It could go many ways if Russia and China decide they are feeling lucky..
How sure are they that their nukes could even hit the USA?
What position would they then be in if they launched nukes just for them to plop into the ocean?
How much technology and futuristic weaponry/defense does the USA really have that remains top secret?
When was the last time the USA declassified serious secret aircraft like the now 60 year old Lockheed SR-71 Blackbird?
What do you think the USA could have now that is still secret tech after all of these years, and you can bet the USA is at the absolute pinnacle of technology, the likes of which the world has yet to see..
It's a huge gamble for them to even think their weapons would be effective..

Do ya feel lucky punk? Do ya?

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Quote from: Betwrong on January 07, 2020, 10:15:39 AM

Read about the previous world wars, WW1 and WW2. They were between coalitions, more or less equal in strength. Now imagine Iran fights with all Western world. They know very well they are going to lose pretty quickly. And forget about China and Russia taking their side. The children of the top politicians from there are living in the West, so they won't bomb their own kids.

I actually don't see anyone siding with Iran against the USA and it's allies especially now that they have the backings of NATO as well and also let's consider that Soleimani wasn't really a saint at all, He is a very bad man who did horrific things no country in their right mind will ally themselves to Iran because of his assassination.

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I read Iran government announced US army as terrorist group so they will not be allowed to any kind of activities in that country anymore,tension increases,will be the beginning of missile attacks and fighter plane attacks? Possibly yes and both were ready for that.

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There is no definite coalition. UK is struggling in it's brexit mess, Russia is busy with Crimea and Syria, China is busy in South China Sea, India is neutral as usual. If even Iran retaliates then USA and Saudi are waiting to kill Iran. It won't be a long war.

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I stand with Ukraine.

Read about the previous world wars, WW1 and WW2. They were between coalitions, more or less equal in strength. Now imagine Iran fights with all Western world. They know very well they are going to lose pretty quickly. And forget about China and Russia taking their side. The children of the top politicians from there are living in the West, so they won't bomb their own kids.

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Depends on how many nukes will go off to set off a nuclear winter and or leave much of the land unfarmable due to fallout. Humans managed to bounce back from 10k so I think we can handle this.

I think we are more likely to die of hunger though as prices rise as these countries try sabotage each other's economies. Still, all the memes generated by this was funny. I especially like that tweet by a chick that basically went "Y'all ladies can have your equality, I don't want to get drafted!".

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That could possibly happen when wars broke out country's have alliances and if the tension escalates then other countries might as well join and trigger as you have said a chain reaction. US drew first blood, now they've made enemies of strongest countries that is allied to iran, in my perspective US got to confident thinking they can oppressed any country in the middle east without any consequences that might occur.

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I think there is almost zero chance of another world war.

I'm not a fan in general of globalisation, but what it has done in the years since WW2 is to tie the fortunes of major economies very closely together. Everything is multinational now, every economy depends on every other. This is a major reason why democracies don't tend to attack one another - they have too much to lose.

In general the only wars you see are civil wars within countries, or else 'interventions' such as the US in Iraq, where the inter-relationship of the economies is minimal and any negative effects are vastly outweighed by potential gains e.g. the control of huge oil reserves.

US vs China for example isn't going to happen. It won't be soldiers vs soldiers, bombs and missiles, it will be abstracted into the realm of finance, as we are seeing now with Trump's trade war.

Of course one lunatic with control of nuclear codes could change all that, but on the basis of logic a world war is profoundly unlikely.

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