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I have to say that 10% of profits to investors really is the thing that puts me off. Even worse if that is not reached and it stays at 5%, it feels borderline retarder to invest into something with such terms.
I know very well how lucrative the esports/sports betting is and where it can go. Theres great potential there and you have some very solid ideas but the investment profit share is just a no.

So lets say the 100k is raised and lets say the initial profit for the site will be 5k$ per month.
User A invests 10000$ He would then have 10% of the profit you give to investors.
This means:
10% of 5k = 500$
10% of 500 = 50$

He would make 50$ that month, by investing 10000$. So for a breakeven he would need 10000/50 = 200 months aka 16.6 years.
Now for the sake of it, lets double it. You make 10k$ a month profit, then the investor would need 8.3 years for a breakeven.

I am keeping these numbers low because it will take a lot of time to get to the level where the volume will really start paying off. (i know it is possible but it takes a lot of time)

In the world of gambling that is an eternity and in the world of e-sports also.

P.S I also didn't find in what country is the company registered. Is it on the site somewhere i must have missed it. Because if it is not registered then there's a whole other level of risk as you might just get shut down for illegal gambling.

P.S.2 Correct me if im wrong, math aint my strong side.

Im not good at mathe but your numbers are correct I think. With your mathe someone who invest 10 thousand if only getting back 50 a month will only make 6% per year. That is not bad money if it was guaranteed. But your mathe forget to keep in mind that value is still in the coin. so someone can hold for a while and then sell. so its not like he loses his 10 thousand.

If the business does big because ESport is on the verge of blowing up it can do more then 5 thousand a month. if it staied with the same math the dev post that would mean just 50 thousand in bets for 5k a month. I think it can get more with good marketing and a good team.

and in the announcement for about the company it says "GameBet is an organization established to help the growth of eSports online gaming as well as promote the Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency industry. Officially registered in Costa Rica as a S.A. (Sociedad Anónima). The organization was registered through Marielos Meléndez J.D. LL.D. of Melendez and Bonzilla Law Firm.
"

You are correct on the coin part, they also do/might hold some value. But that is dependent on how much the site makes.
By those calculations i made. You own 10% of the supply to investors. And you make 50$ a month.
This means you have 2.000.000 coins that make you 50$ a month (thats around 0.1203 BTC atm)
50/2000000 = 0.000025$
0.1203/2000000 = 0.00000006
That would be the earnings per month per coin it seems. There will be people ofc who will buy them (and calculate the initial cost of 10000$ into it also, but for that to happen it first needs to show it maintains a steady profit).

Oh i see the company was announced in the pre-announcement. Would be nice to have the registration code of the company there also so everyone could see that it really is registered.



Yes all investment are risky. I think possible to have big players in future who gamble big moneys on gamebet. If that happen coin will be worth much more. gambling sites can see 1 million in bets on a month, some even see 10 or 100 million on a month. I no hope for gamebet to do 10 million a month but if they do and they take in 10%  that is 1 million a month for the investors. that is a lot of money. if they do 1 million in a month and make 10% we still get to share 100 thousand. I think they can gro for 1million a month. not problem.
we are community, if we help it grow it grow, if we don't maybe it will stil grow maybe it will die.
I will see tomorrow bt I watch since other thread and I think I will invest a little. are you invest?

We can ask devs for see the company papers too. because it is gambling they may not show their name but maybe the company documents they can show to us.
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I have to say that 10% of profits to investors really is the thing that puts me off. Even worse if that is not reached and it stays at 5%, it feels borderline retarder to invest into something with such terms.
I know very well how lucrative the esports/sports betting is and where it can go. Theres great potential there and you have some very solid ideas but the investment profit share is just a no.

So lets say the 100k is raised and lets say the initial profit for the site will be 5k$ per month.
User A invests 10000$ He would then have 10% of the profit you give to investors.
This means:
10% of 5k = 500$
10% of 500 = 50$

He would make 50$ that month, by investing 10000$. So for a breakeven he would need 10000/50 = 200 months aka 16.6 years.
Now for the sake of it, lets double it. You make 10k$ a month profit, then the investor would need 8.3 years for a breakeven.

I am keeping these numbers low because it will take a lot of time to get to the level where the volume will really start paying off. (i know it is possible but it takes a lot of time)

In the world of gambling that is an eternity and in the world of e-sports also.

P.S I also didn't find in what country is the company registered. Is it on the site somewhere i must have missed it. Because if it is not registered then there's a whole other level of risk as you might just get shut down for illegal gambling.

P.S.2 Correct me if im wrong, math aint my strong side.

Im not good at mathe but your numbers are correct I think. With your mathe someone who invest 10 thousand if only getting back 50 a month will only make 6% per year. That is not bad money if it was guaranteed. But your mathe forget to keep in mind that value is still in the coin. so someone can hold for a while and then sell. so its not like he loses his 10 thousand.

If the business does big because ESport is on the verge of blowing up it can do more then 5 thousand a month. if it staied with the same math the dev post that would mean just 50 thousand in bets for 5k a month. I think it can get more with good marketing and a good team.

and in the announcement for about the company it says "GameBet is an organization established to help the growth of eSports online gaming as well as promote the Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency industry. Officially registered in Costa Rica as a S.A. (Sociedad Anónima). The organization was registered through Marielos Meléndez J.D. LL.D. of Melendez and Bonzilla Law Firm.
"

You are correct on the coin part, they also do/might hold some value. But that is dependent on how much the site makes.
By those calculations i made. You own 10% of the supply to investors. And you make 50$ a month.
This means you have 2.000.000 coins that make you 50$ a month (thats around 0.1203 BTC atm)
50/2000000 = 0.000025$
0.1203/2000000 = 0.00000006
That would be the earnings per month per coin it seems. There will be people ofc who will buy them (and calculate the initial cost of 10000$ into it also, but for that to happen it first needs to show it maintains a steady profit).

Oh i see the company was announced in the pre-announcement. Would be nice to have the registration code of the company there also so everyone could see that it really is registered.

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What is Algorithm: POS 3.0 ?? Huh
Anything diferent from POS 2.0?

2.0 + 1  Grin
hero member
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I have to say that 10% of profits to investors really is the thing that puts me off. Even worse if that is not reached and it stays at 5%, it feels borderline retarder to invest into something with such terms.
I know very well how lucrative the esports/sports betting is and where it can go. Theres great potential there and you have some very solid ideas but the investment profit share is just a no.

So lets say the 100k is raised and lets say the initial profit for the site will be 5k$ per month.
User A invests 10000$ He would then have 10% of the profit you give to investors.
This means:
10% of 5k = 500$
10% of 500 = 50$

He would make 50$ that month, by investing 10000$. So for a breakeven he would need 10000/50 = 200 months aka 16.6 years.
Now for the sake of it, lets double it. You make 10k$ a month profit, then the investor would need 8.3 years for a breakeven.

I am keeping these numbers low because it will take a lot of time to get to the level where the volume will really start paying off. (i know it is possible but it takes a lot of time)

In the world of gambling that is an eternity and in the world of e-sports also.

P.S I also didn't find in what country is the company registered. Is it on the site somewhere i must have missed it. Because if it is not registered then there's a whole other level of risk as you might just get shut down for illegal gambling.

P.S.2 Correct me if im wrong, math aint my strong side.

Im not good at mathe but your numbers are correct I think. With your mathe someone who invest 10 thousand if only getting back 50 a month will only make 6% per year. That is not bad money if it was guaranteed. But your mathe forget to keep in mind that value is still in the coin. so someone can hold for a while and then sell. so its not like he loses his 10 thousand.

If the business does big because ESport is on the verge of blowing up it can do more then 5 thousand a month. if it staied with the same math the dev post that would mean just 50 thousand in bets for 5k a month. I think it can get more with good marketing and a good team.

and in the announcement for about the company it says "GameBet is an organization established to help the growth of eSports online gaming as well as promote the Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency industry. Officially registered in Costa Rica as a S.A. (Sociedad Anónima). The organization was registered through Marielos Meléndez J.D. LL.D. of Melendez and Bonzilla Law Firm.
"
legendary
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The site is still in development right, i was looking for the referral system but i did not see any mention about it on the site.
full member
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What is Algorithm: POS 3.0 ?? Huh
Anything diferent from POS 2.0?
legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1007
I have to say that 10% of profits to investors really is the thing that puts me off. Even worse if that is not reached and it stays at 5%, it feels borderline retarder to invest into something with such terms.
I know very well how lucrative the esports/sports betting is and where it can go. Theres great potential there and you have some very solid ideas but the investment profit share is just a no.

So lets say the 100k is raised and lets say the initial profit for the site will be 5k$ per month.
User A invests 10000$ He would then have 10% of the profit you give to investors.
This means:
10% of 5k = 500$
10% of 500 = 50$

He would make 50$ that month, by investing 10000$. So for a breakeven he would need 10000/50 = 200 months aka 16.6 years.
Now for the sake of it, lets double it. You make 10k$ a month profit, then the investor would need 8.3 years for a breakeven.

I am keeping these numbers low because it will take a lot of time to get to the level where the volume will really start paying off. (i know it is possible but it takes a lot of time)

In the world of gambling that is an eternity and in the world of e-sports also.

P.S I also didn't find in what country is the company registered. Is it on the site somewhere i must have missed it. Because if it is not registered then there's a whole other level of risk as you might just get shut down for illegal gambling.

P.S.2 Correct me if im wrong, math aint my strong side.
hero member
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Dailymodo,

Is it your next venture like the ones you had before?
I got burned in both cases and your name sounded familiar when I read the post.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annrelaunch-yincoinyangcoin-destroying-coinsdistributing-coinsbig-news-623937
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/annhmy-harmonycoinnew-walletslive-on-bittrexx13100-pos-639835



Hello.

As I stated in my bio, I have been involved with cryptocurrencies for a while. I have never made a coin and launched it before. I have never made a coin and someone else launched it before.
I made a few coins to test around with out of curiosity and to improve my knowledge of the blockchain and cryptos in general. Yincoin I was a major bagholder and offered to help out on a takeover. Its not my fault it never went anywhere. You should look at the dev who took off in the first place if you want to blame someone. And that harmony coin I was only an investor. And a major bagholder too. Still to this day.
I have lost money trading and made some too but until now I have always been one of you guys, just an investor going along for the ride. Today that all changes because my team and myself are at the lead and we intend to make this one very successful project, for us and for our investors.
hero member
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You're not clear about something here, either... revenue share is related solely to the GB coin, right? So if someone doesn't pre-buy and they get some off the market later, they will still get a revenue share based on their holdings at the end of the 'cycle' as if they had pre-bought that many?

Yes. If you chose to buy your coins on an exchange you will still be entitled to a payment if your address is registered.
 
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legendary
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You're not clear about something here, either... revenue share is related solely to the GB coin, right? So if someone doesn't pre-buy and they get some off the market later, they will still get a revenue share based on their holdings at the end of the 'cycle' as if they had pre-bought that many?
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Country music is where my heart is.
waiting a week for this. Tell ya guys, it was worth the wait. Gambling with steam items is crazy. Selling them for crypties is even better.
and now earning a % of the pie is the offer. I'll bite. tomorrow i'll sell some of my other coins and invest here. i have a few that are way up in the green.
for a test I just sent in 15$ to gamble on a dota2 game this morning. betting $15 on avengers dota2 for the win against team bad English.

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Very nice but the minimum to invest is high, can you lower it down?

what minimum?
its a bitcoin address.
you send.
what you want to send.
hero member
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Very nice but the minimum to invest is high, can you lower it down?
hero member
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Ok im investing. Got to put my eth and maid profits somewhere.

Im in for 0.5 btc.

When will we get our gbt, when will the wallets be released, and how many gbt am I getting for my 0.5?

Maybe I should have asked this before sending in my payment.

oups.

Do I win a prize for being the first to invest?

Your GBT will be distributed to you and everyone else on April 8th along with our wallet release. And your total GBT holdings will only be known at the end of the sale, so January 8th for that as well.
We have no prize for 1st place but because you invested roughly $208US you are entitled to the legendary tier perks for investment level 1.
That includes A golden nametag on the site, an extra 4% on your referrals and $10 in Steam silver.
Thanks for investing in us and giving us a shot.
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hmm looks interesting..


kinda of confusing what exactly we are investing for.


also to everyone. if you register , what ever email you use , it will be the user name of the ledger. it drops the email domain :example if you registered with email "[email protected]" , it will automatically sign your username as "bob".  each accounts basically creates its unique bitcoin address and there is a ledger section where you can see everyone else name and their address associated.

which is cool as its open and transparent. but it also a bit intrusive as i can just guess @gmail , @yahoo etc.. behind each name there..

Thanks.

You would be investing for 1 reason. It's to make money. The money used from your investment has been explained in our announcement.
We see what you are saying about the ledger list. John will get that looked into and changed first thing tomorrow.



yeah i am sure it can easily be changed. luckily i decided to use a spam email and i saw the problem. I mean i used the spam email because the material can not be looked at with out an account. hopefully you can fix that then i wouldn't mind signing up with my email.


site looks nice thought. i like what i see. sure it it not pimped up and as shiny as others but im sure they can be fixed.


i know its in the OP but how is the connection to the sale and the rewards connected..

say i invest 1 btc, this will give me  [my amount invested/total amount invested] x100 = % from the 20mil coins.

once coins get distribuited. i log the wallet in my account on your site and provide a btc address as well. and while i hodl my coin i get rewards from the sites profits?

also what is the period of a cycle? one week, one month? 3 months?

More great questions! Here is an easy example for you and anyone else who might be wondering.
20m coins are up for sale. If 200 btc total is raised from 200 different people at 1 btc each then each investor would walk away with 100k GBT.
Once the sale is complete we will release the wallet and start distribution. At that point you will have the choice of either moving your GBT to your wallet or keeping it on our site.
If you keep it on our site you wont need to supply us with a GBT address for your cycle payments. Only a btc address will be needed. If you move it out you will need to update your GBT address on our site so we know where to look when making payments.

For the first 6 months our cycle will be on a quarterly basis(once every 3 months). As soon as that 6 months are over we'll be changing and going with monthly cycle.

Thanks for the great question. Hope it was answered to your satisfaction.


sr. member
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Ok im investing. Got to put my eth and maid profits somewhere.

Im in for 0.5 btc.

When will we get our gbt, when will the wallets be released, and how many gbt am I getting for my 0.5?

Maybe I should have asked this before sending in my payment.

oups.

Do I win a prize for being the first to invest?
legendary
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hmm looks interesting..


kinda of confusing what exactly we are investing for.


also to everyone. if you register , what ever email you use , it will be the user name of the ledger. it drops the email domain :example if you registered with email "[email protected]" , it will automatically sign your username as "bob".  each accounts basically creates its unique bitcoin address and there is a ledger section where you can see everyone else name and their address associated.

which is cool as its open and transparent. but it also a bit intrusive as i can just guess @gmail , @yahoo etc.. behind each name there..

Thanks.

You would be investing for 1 reason. It's to make money. The money used from your investment has been explained in our announcement.
We see what you are saying about the ledger list. John will get that looked into and changed first thing tomorrow.



yeah i am sure it can easily be changed. luckily i decided to use a spam email and i saw the problem. I mean i used the spam email because the material can not be looked at with out an account. hopefully you can fix that then i wouldn't mind signing up with my email.


site looks nice thought. i like what i see. sure it it not pimped up and as shiny as others but im sure they can be fixed.


i know its in the OP but how is the connection to the sale and the rewards connected..

say i invest 1 btc, this will give me  [my amount invested/total amount invested] x100 = % from the 20mil coins.

once coins get distribuited. i log the wallet in my account on your site and provide a btc address as well. and while i hodl my coin i get rewards from the sites profits?

also what is the period of a cycle? one week, one month? 3 months?
hero member
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hmm looks interesting..


kinda of confusing what exactly we are investing for.


also to everyone. if you register , what ever email you use , it will be the user name of the ledger. it drops the email domain :example if you registered with email "[email protected]" , it will automatically sign your username as "bob".  each accounts basically creates its unique bitcoin address and there is a ledger section where you can see everyone else name and their address associated.

which is cool as its open and transparent. but it also a bit intrusive as i can just guess @gmail , @yahoo etc.. behind each name there..

Thanks.

You would be investing for 1 reason. It's to make money. The money used from your investment has been explained in our announcement.
We see what you are saying about the ledger list. John will get that looked into and changed first thing tomorrow.

hero member
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I'm not understanding how a business that hasn't proven itself (tip: giving people 'free play money' isn't representative of what you can expect) can value itself at $1m. Where is this valuation coming from? You're missing a LOT of information. This happens to be a niche I'm extremely familiar with, but I won't even think about getting involved unless you can start justifying this stuff, and I recommend anyone else do due diligence as well.

Hi, Thanks for the great question. Im not sure if you missed it or not but our second week of beta was only for real money betters. During that week we retained 161 real money betters who placed a total of $1187 US in bets of which the house retained roughly $175 US. With those numbers it wont be long for us to turn the site into a very big money maker. We are talking about a house gain of over 10% of the total wagered amount and all that without any advertising at all. We know our site is not finished, let's be honest, when is any site really finished. It's always going to need improving and we are not  standing in front of you today proclaiming to have the worlds fastest, nicest, most popular eSports gambling site ever seen, but with the right funding and a few months hard work we'll be able to do just that.
Between our team, our partners and you the community we will be able to earn us and you an nice extra income. Our partners have been selected for their experience in their particular field be it, video, or gaming, or both. We wont let you down and we wont let them down.

As you mentioned you happen to be extremely familiar with this field. We are always looking to expand our team and partners and if you have any such interest please send us a small blurb in a private message and we'll get the dialog going.

Thanks for you question and we look forward to more questions from you and the community.



I just can't take it seriously with that kind of valuation in its current state. It's ridiculous, and any true investor would back me on that.

If you decide you want a real investment, from someone who knows this area, I'll definitely reach out. But I can tell you right now it would be near impossible for us to even get close to $1m with the site's current state.

Please take it seriously, there are many ways to value a company. We know that with time and effort GameBet will be worth way more then the 1m ask. So many other projects with way less have raised much more and had much larger valuations. (lisk, eth, nxt ...) We believe our value is justified, we are coming in with a working product and some serious partners. We hope you will reconsider.
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